Crystal S., Haleigh's mother #2

[samsmom02]

i have seen several times people indicate that crystal is uneducated, that she is weak, that she was taken advantage of, and did not use common sense as excuses to why she did this interview. If i bought all those excuses it still does not explain why she did not take the opportunity in the last 3 interviews when she has been bashing ron, putting rj in danger, or telling everyone she is really mad at the rumor about her missing and dna, to plead for the return of her missing daughter. It does not take a well educated, common sense, or strong person to do that it just takes a loving mother.

amen!

 

[cajun]

I don't think anyone thinks Crystal murdered Haleigh and I didn't see where people were saying that last night.They were more upset she put her child on tv full face letting an abductor that already has taken his sister know he could be id'd,for the second time.And Ronald who has full custody would have been totally opposed to her doing that,she used the opportunity as she's using this whole thing.And without LE putting out an abductor description,she was making a false claim in prodding Jr for a nod.

No one did say that like the one poster last night accused people of doing.

Funny thing is that when Crystal first brought this up in the press a week ago and was asked further questions by the reporter she said LE didn't want to to say anything. She should have kept her trap shut from the getgo..

 

[pirate]

I am not aware of the father or his family putting out photos of Rj, but they certainly did not say, "He saw the perp take Haleigh" and then give details nor did they have Rj do it for the sake of ratings!! GRRRR!

I don't understand how people can refute the implication of Rj having been made to do this and how he could be affected in the long run. It is definitely NOT a stretch because LE suggested it to TN as a reason not to mention it...and they did not.

Several photos of Misty at a birthday party with Haleigh and RJ were released immediately.

 

[winterrose]

Well,the main thing is she doesn't have the custody and his father who has custody didn't give his approval and would have said no way.I would never let any relative that put one of my children on national television without my permission and knowing I would not have given permission,to take them anywhere again without supervision.He should demand supervised visitations until this is solved.

 

[Manny]

Crystal is surely no princess, and allowing CR to interview her and conduct a questioning of her son was definitely not a stellar moment of motherhood. However, Jr. sat right next to her and definitely didn't seem to be in any danger. He was calm and well behaved, enjoying a couple potato chips. It isn't as though his image is not out there already. His picture is shown regularly on multiple media outlets. There is no more threat to this child today than there was before the GR show.

I would worry more about the missing child, Haleigh. If Jr is telling the truth the person who has Haleigh might be tempted to get rid of any evidence.. if you understand what I mean. It so dangerous to say the wrong thing when a child's life is in danger. One wrong statement can end this whole thing in a very bad way. I am glad that Ron says nothing but "bring back my daughter" He is doing the absolutely correct thing. That mother may have caused something she didn't intend to do, but the results could be very bad.

Also , I am so sick and tired of that GR.. he will do anything to cause a stir. He needs ratings you know..what ()*&(*&)(*&!!

 

[cajun]

Perhaps she wanted to discredit anything Rj saw that night.

Well Connie, CS's stepmom, said on TV that she believes the story jr. told was a figment of his imagination.

 

[pirate]

Well,the main thing is she doesn't have the custody and his father who has custody didn't give his approval and would have said no way.I would never let any relative that put one of my children on national television without my permission and knowing I would not have given permission,to take them anywhere again without supervision.He should demand supervised visitations until this is solved.

It's very unlikely that will happen. And on that note, since Haleigh was "lost" on Ronald's watch, a trip to family court will only open a can of worms and jeopardize Ronald's custody.

There are more questions about Ronald than there are about Crystal right now.

 

[cuppy199]

It's very unlikely that will happen. And on that note, since Haleigh was "lost" on Ronald's watch, a trip to family court will only open a can of worms and jeopardize Ronald's custody.

There are more questions about Ronald than there are about Crystal right now.

I highly doubt a judge would rule on Ron being responsible for his daughter disapearance when Le has no idea what happen yet. There are alot more missing children on their parents watch . Happens more then anyone would like but it doesnt make the parent responsible.

 

[shihtzuhappens]

I have been assuming/thinking what jr saw and remembers that night is when LE arrived. Their uniforms, dark, possibly squeaky shoes, or maybe the floor squeaks when someone walks. Another thought was if a person really did come in and take his sissy, if he was wearing a mask jr. might describe him as black. I don't know if any lights were on near that bedroom but if not, everything would appear dark, or black.

 

[LFlorida]

Gonna spell it all out for y'all re: ski mask, just in case you actually give a hoot about how you are gonna feel about yourselves if Ron and Crystal and Misty also turn out to be innocent victims of the perp.

"The charges stem from an incident at 11 p.m. Sept. 3, 2002, in which Putnam County sheriff's deputies say ______ crawled into a bedroom of an Interlachen home armed with a knife and allegedly committed a sex act on the girl, who was asleep... Another child was sleeping in the room, sheriff's reports show."

Earlier report about same crime
"A man wearing a ski mask is believed to have entered the bedroom window of an 11-year-old girl and fondled her before fleeing through the same window of her Interlachen home Tuesday night."

btw - it was a mobile home.
btw - the perp was released from FL prison in November. LE cannot find him.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3389424&postcount=508

 

[shihtzuhappens]

Gonna spell it all out for y'all re: ski mask, just in case you actually give a hoot about how you are gonna feel about yourselves if Ron and Crystal and Misty also turn out to be innocent victims of the perp.

"The charges stem from an incident at 11 p.m. Sept. 3, 2002, in which Putnam County sheriff's deputies say ______ crawled into a bedroom of an Interlachen home armed with a knife and allegedly committed a sex act on the girl, who was asleep... Another child was sleeping in the room, sheriff's reports show."

Earlier report about same crime
"A man wearing a ski mask is believed to have entered the bedroom window of an 11-year-old girl and fondled her before fleeing through the same window of her Interlachen home Tuesday night."

btw - it was a mobile home.
btw - the perp was released from FL prison in November. LE cannot find him.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3389424&postcount=508

I'm going over to check that one out. You might be onto something here:yes:

 

[cajun]

Gonna spell it all out for y'all re: ski mask, just in case you actually give a hoot about how you are gonna feel about yourselves if Ron and Crystal and Misty also turn out to be innocent victims of the perp.

"The charges stem from an incident at 11 p.m. Sept. 3, 2002, in which Putnam County sheriff's deputies say ______ crawled into a bedroom of an Interlachen home armed with a knife and allegedly committed a sex act on the girl, who was asleep... Another child was sleeping in the room, sheriff's reports show."

Earlier report about same crime
"A man wearing a ski mask is believed to have entered the bedroom window of an 11-year-old girl and fondled her before fleeing through the same window of her Interlachen home Tuesday night."

btw - it was a mobile home.
btw - the perp was released from FL prison in November. LE cannot find him.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3389424&postcount=508

He's still on my radar. I wish LE could find him.

 

[Chezhire]

SNIPPED: "... Crystal (still!) has a wide open myspace account with her children's names and photos. Privacy doesn't appear to be an issue for her."

I just don't think she has any idea that we, along with whomever else out there is so inclined, are looking at her account and discussing same. Seriously, it's usually only when some primetime news reporter begins mentioning that such-and-such case is being discussed on the web and names WS, etc., that the players in many cases understand how they are being watched and looked at online. :doh:

 

[Chezhire]

I am not sure how this show ( and I don't agree she should have done it) could possibly put the child in ANY danger. Do people actually think a kidnapper is going to march into one of these family's "camps" and grab this child and run off? That is just ridiculous, he is surrounded by people day and night and kept in several different locations both during the day and at night. Someone is just stalking him back and forth and no one will notice? The information he gave is unlikely to lead to any kind of identification, his testimony at a trial would be of no use at all, so I just don't see what kind of danger he is in now. The danger for this child is being left in the care of irresponsible people who have documented histories of drug use and violence.
Sorry for the rant, but I still get steamed that people say "oh, poor Misty" etc. and give her a pass on all this when SHE WAS IN CHARGE OF THE CHILD...SHE HAS LIED TO THE POLICE AND ON CAMERA.....SHE SAYS SHE WAS IN THE ROOM WITH THE CHILD AND THAT CHILD IS GONE!!!

For starters, sometimes cases dwindle on for years and years without LE ever finding a body or naming any prime suspects, etc., so if the perp even *thinks* there's a slight chance that this minor child could ever ID him - he'll lie in wait until he has a chance to get to the only potential witness. This is why one NEVER puts minor witnesses in the spotlight! :furious:

 

[kiki the parrot]

"Protecting your own," to the extent one would be willing even to sacrifice an innocent grandchild for a culpable child or one possibly withholding info, is a bit too familiar and not a quality to be admired. JMO
arrot:

 

[BetsyB]

It isn't silly. It is a very serious situation. His sister is missing and possibly dead. He may have witnessed the crime and could provide details to her recovery or to prosecute the perp. She has directly violated what one would consider a moral obligation to protect this child...not to mention a legal obligation not to endanger him. Ronald does hold the right to ask for a judge to withhold visitation on those grounds. It is in their custody agreement.

I've been thinking about this, and trying to see it from your perspective. And I have to say that I just can't bring myself to see RJ in greater danger from the exposure. He's not sequestered in a secret location away from the hullaballoo---a place where revealing his appearance will blow his cover. He's right where the family is, easily found. He's in no more danger than he was before.

I think it's just as likely that CS is utterly distraught about the loss of her daughter, and allowed RJ to appear because she was exploited and manipulated to believe it might aid Haleigh's return.

The villain here, IMO, is not CS. It's GR.

And people have intimated, all along, that CS is, in fact responsible for this crime, and seized every opportunity to vilify her.

 

[tehcloser]

"protecting your own," to the extent one would be willing even to sacrifice an innocent grandchild for a culpable child or one possibly withholding info, is a bit too familiar and not a quality to be admired. Jmo
arrot:

amen!

 

[LaLaw2000]

I see CS putting Ronald, Jr. on the Geraldo show last night as exploitation. CS herself has not been cleared by LE. In fact, no one in either immediate family has. I see a division here that I am very sad to see. Either some are for Ronald, or Crystal, or feel that Misty did or did not have anything to do with Haleigh's disappearance.

I do not see Haleigh as having been murdered. I do not believe there was an abduction, or a AA man all dressed in black - ski mask or no ski mask - squeaky shoes or no squeaky shoes.

I suspect everyone. No one has been cleared. It all seems staged and planned to me. It is my opinion that it is a hoax that has gone to the point of no return and was not meant to have gone this far. It is going to take someone outside either family to break this case and the FBI. I am very suspicious of the person in Arizona who came out with a Haleigh website early on. She had pictures on her site that I had not seen before. I firmly believe that these pics came from a family member. I do not know which family I think knows this person. This K. Savage - owner of the site - did not count on being called out as early as she was for her site being a scam.

My opinion is not a popular one, and that is fine. I am not for Crystal, Ronald, Misty, or anyone in either family.

The longer this goes on, the more danger I believe Haleigh to be in. She has become a liability to whoever has her, because she cannot be hidden away forever. I believe in the FBI, and feel that they have a good handle on what has happened to Haleigh. I feel the FBI is onto whatever has happened and are having to get hard evidence before anyone is arrested.

 

[radio]

"Protecting your own," to the extent one would be willing even to sacrifice an innocent grandchild for a culpable child or one possibly withholding info, is a bit too familiar and not a quality to be admired. JMO
arrot:

ditto!!

 

[yellowlab]

"Protecting your own," to the extent one would be willing even to sacrifice an innocent grandchild for a culpable child or one possibly withholding info, is a bit too familiar and not a quality to be admired. JMO
arrot:

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