Crystal S., Haleigh's mother #3

[texasmommy39]

I really feel like Crystal is being bashed. It's like people are on a witch hunt with her.
Now we are going to discuss the sleeping arrangements at her house? Seriously??!!

She's not Mother of the Year, but she's also not as bad as some people are trying to make her out to be either. I really hope I never ever end up in the public spotlight. I would get ripped to shreds!!

Crystal is a grieving mother who's daughter has been kidnapped. I feel like that is being forgotten.

Imo

I haven't forgotten. I do question a few things. I have stated that I lost a child. It happened in 2000, she was 10 yo. My husband and I sent the girls to school and went to work. My Daughter (14) got a detention that day so did not ride the bus home with her two sisters. The girls got home and called there dad to tell him they were home. They had a 30 min. time frame before one of us would be home. My youngest decided to go in her room and huff air freshener and died instantly. My other daughter was watching TV in her room and didn't know until her dad got home. I was on my way home when I passed the ambulance and seen my husband hauling but after it and honking at me to follow I arrived at the Hospital to find her already dead. I wanted to know how this could happen to my little girl. Who would show a 10 yo how do to do something like this. I had never heard of inhalant abuse. I was nothing and nobody for a very long time. No one would of came to me and caused me such undue sadness they (my community) went to the Police with their concerns. It was discovered a 16 yo sister of my daughters friend shared the how to with three young children. I repeat no one would of mentioned this to me they took there concerns to the police. I know TMI. Sorry.

 

[texasmommy39]

To loose a child does not make you a bad parent. How you care for your children makes you a bad parent.

 

[zadari]

Just as Ronald is a grieving father who's daughter has been kidnapped, but no one seems to take that into account. Crystal and Maria started the bashing of Ronald and continually feed those flames. They don't appear to care if they trash him.

ive seen more here stick up for ron over crystal imho however neither should be bashing one another over the tv they both need to knock it off with the media and concentrate on thier daughter

 

[SeriouslySearching]

With all due respect, the sleeping arrangements at Haleigh's home don't seem proper do they?

I don't see they are out of line considering the ages of the children. There are many, many people who prefer to keep their children close to them and allow them the same sleeping arrangements as Ronald does with the kids.

I think when Ronald came home, he should have moved them to their respective rooms tho. It is always best for children to learn to sleep in their own beds, imo. However, they had not lived in that house long and the children could have been having a difficult time adjusting to the new arrangements plus sleeping alone if it is what they had been used to for so long.

All of the above also makes a difference in the sleeping arrangements at Crystal's home. If the children normally slept in the same room 90% of the time, how did they respond to the sleeping arrangements at Crystal's?

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I haven't forgotten. I do question a few things. I have stated that I lost a child. It happened in 2000, she was 10 yo. My husband and I sent the girls to school and went to work. My Daughter (14) got a detention that day so did not ride the bus home with her two sisters. The girls got home and called there dad to tell him they were home. They had a 30 min. time frame before one of us would be home. My youngest decided to go in her room and huff air freshener and died instantly. My other daughter was watching TV in her room and didn't know until her dad got home. I was on my way home when I passed the ambulance and seen my husband hauling but after it and honking at me to follow I arrived at the Hospital to find her already dead. I wanted to know how this could happen to my little girl. Who would show a 10 yo how do to do something like this. I had never heard of inhalant abuse. I was nothing and nobody for a very long time. No one would of came to me and caused me such undue sadness they (my community) went to the Police with their concerns. It was discovered a 16 yo sister of my daughters friend shared the how to with three young children. I repeat no one would of mentioned this to me they took there concerns to the police. I know TMI. Sorry.

Off Topic: I am so sorry for your loss. There are no words to fill the empty heart when one loses a child no matter the circumstances.

I can imagine no one would approach you with concerns as your case obviously was not criminal in nature, but accidental (altho I am sure it doesn't feel that way to you). You were truly a victim and there should have been no question since both of you were at work.

On Topic: Unfortunately, in this case...people have to question motives, alibis, and the rest until we find Haleigh or evidence to determine what occurred that night. Crystal has to be looked at as diligently as the rest.

 

[Shaymus at The Rock]

To loose a child does not make you a bad parent. How you care for your children makes you a bad parent.

To loose a child is a heartbreak. Take care, texasmommy.

 

[texasmommy39]

I am so sorry for your loss. There are no words to fill the empty heart when one loses a child no matter the circumstances.

I can imagine no one would approach you with concerns as your case obviously was not criminal in nature, but accidental (altho I am sure it doesn't feel that way to you). You were truly a victim and there should have been no question since both of you were at work.

Unfortunately, in this case...people have to question motives, alibis, and the rest until we find Haleigh or evidence to determine what occurred that night.

But where on this forum are we doing this? I agree alibis, motive, opportunity, and ability should all be focused on.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I have been trying to do it across the board, but putting out fires from both sides has become the focus instead. I want to find Haleigh and bring her home.

 

[Donjeta]

With all due respect, the sleeping arrangements at Haleigh's home don't seem proper do they?

I don't quite see how your question relates to my post. But as far as I'm concerned, I see no particular problem with small children sleeping in the same room as the parents or caregivers as long as everybody is comfortable with it and gets enough sleep. What happens when they're not sleeping may be a problem, if the children are exposed to things they shouldn't witness, eg. inappropriate sexuality or conversation about exclusively adult topics, but I have no information about how these things were handled in either Ronald's or Crystal's home. What I consider worrisome about the sleeping arrangements is that there seems to be a certain amount of uncertainty about which child was sleeping where and according to the latest story at Art Harris Haleigh may have been watching movies long after her bedtime while Misty was sleeping. If the caregivers can't keep track of the children who knows what they might do and what might happen?

 

[Flossie JMO]

All great questions imo.

It isn't just the sleeping arrangements at Crystal's which are important. It is the interaction with everyone while Haleigh was with Crystal and which could play into her going missing.

Was Haleigh allowed to sleep in the same bed or room with Chad and Crystal? Did Haleigh have a room of her own when she went to visit? Where does Rj sleep? Did they make adequate arrangements for the visits or was Haleigh left alone to sleep on the sofa every other weekend?

Are they treated equally to Chloe by Crystal and Chad? What was Chad's relationship like with Haleigh? Was it appropriate as a step-father? Was he allowed to discipline the children? How does Crystal handle discipline of the children?

 

[titanfan62702]

I don't quite see how your question relates to my post. But as far as I'm concerned, I see no particular problem with small children sleeping in the same room as the parents or caregivers as long as everybody is comfortable with it and gets enough sleep. What happens when they're not sleeping may be a problem, if the children are exposed to things they shouldn't witness, eg. inappropriate sexuality or conversation about exclusively adult topics, but I have no information about how these things were handled in either Ronald's or Crystal's home. What I consider worrisome about the sleeping arrangements is that there seems to be a certain amount of uncertainty about which child was sleeping where and according to the latest story at Art Harris Haleigh may have been watching movies long after her bedtime while Misty was sleeping. If the caregivers can't keep track of the children who knows what they might do and what might happen?

Children do move from one bed to the another during the night. When the grandsons stay here, they are suppose to sleep in their room which is next to mine, but the best we've done is that it 5 in the morning before they were in my bed. They are "told" not to wake me but I always hear them.

You've touched on a phrase I've had for years. Sleeping together is not the issue.

 

[weasel]

I keep hearing people say custody should go to the mom and continue to point out all the things wrong with Ron. Misty is 17 therefore he put the children in danger, Rons drug charges. OK lets look at Crystal, and I am not doing tit for tat, I am trying to understand what about Crystals environment people think is so much better than Rons.

Just going to list facts

Crystal lives in a home a 29 yr old man who has drug charges, protection order involving
his minor children
Crystal is in photographs showing drugs are still part of her lifestyle
Crystal has a step brother/cousin who is a S.O.
Crystal has filed false police report
Crystal has been unable to get a job to support her children
Crystal admitted drug use during her preg
Crystal admitted she sometimes just did not want to get out of bed to take Haleigh to Dr.

Well put. Seems like everytime I see Crystal on television, she's crying into the camera and slamming Ron about everything and anything she can think of. Not to mention the timing of the custody battle she has now instigated. Her DAUGHTER is missing and to me it seems like she is way more interested in "sticking" it to Ron than finding out what happened to Haleigh. I betcha if and when her life is put under the microscope, way more things than what's listed above will surface.

 

[texasmommy39]

Well put. Seems like everytime I see Crystal on television, she's crying into the camera and slamming Ron about everything and anything she can think of. Not to mention the timing of the custody battle she has now instigated. Her DAUGHTER is missing and to me it seems like she is way more interested in "sticking" it to Ron than finding out what happened to Haleigh. I betcha if and when her life is put under the microscope, way more things than what's listed above will surface.

I to see it this way.
The ongoing battle these two have been waging for a few years has reached its climax. She showed up with no voiced concerns but soon sidetracked to sling mud. I feel she couldn't get Jr. that night and is trying to get him now. Funny I have not heard her state that Ron did it but is attacking him.

 

[weasel]

texasmommy39, I do believe you are on to something. I have often wondered why Crystal is always attacking Ron on national television, she has lawyered up and is now trying to take the boy. Your point does make alot of sense.

 

[texasmommy39]

texasmommy39, I do believe you are on to something. I have often wondered why Crystal is always attacking Ron on national television, she has lawyered up and is now trying to take the boy. Your point does make alot of sense.

I wish I did not have to point a finger in this direction but I have tried to tie the evidence to all others but find the shoe fits here. It would mean Haleigh is alive and is able to be returned. My only fear would be who ever is keeping Haleigh might decide to distance themselves from the crime and Haleigh. It might not turn out so happy. A lot of time has passed. IMOO it would be a friend or a friends friend. They would be in a rural setting. If I knew where to look next I would.

 

[sega-sleuth]

She is not low on the food chain of suspects, imo. I would put her right up there in the top three. Misty, J.O., and next comes Crystal. Discussing her is not a waste of my time nor energy in this respect.

She had more than enough motive, opportunity, and a family who has enough skeletons to include some of the most unsavory characters you can imagine, imo! (Drug dealers and Animal fighting draws a lovely crowd of friends.)

We don't know if they are concentrating on her or her family as suspects either. They did come get Crystal to visually take her to an abandoned house, not Misty! An unusual move since Crystal has been out of the area for so long I would say.

These are logical reasons to look at Crystal and her family in this situation. You have to look at those with the most to gain from Haleigh going missing and her column has grown steadily since the first day. We have all seen it, but some choose to see it for what it really is...Revenge is at the top of that list.

The sleeping arrangements DO matter in her home. We don't know about Chad's relationship with Haleigh or Rj. With the children being allowed to spend every other weekend in their home...it becomes part of the 30 day timeline prior to Haleigh going missing. Everything should be questioned across the board...not just at Ronald's home.

I totally agree with you. Looking at persons who had motive first. Like LE said, everyone is a suspect and until they change that I will be looking at all of them.

What was Crystals relationship like with the children. It has to be hard with a new baby and 2 others you only see every two weeks. How did she balance having 3 young children to take care of? Was Chad a part of helping care for the children? We have not seen much of him since all this began, is he working?

I am looking at both parents equally. JMHO

 

[sega-sleuth]

Well put. Seems like everytime I see Crystal on television, she's crying into the camera and slamming Ron about everything and anything she can think of. Not to mention the timing of the custody battle she has now instigated. Her DAUGHTER is missing and to me it seems like she is way more interested in "sticking" it to Ron than finding out what happened to Haleigh. I betcha if and when her life is put under the microscope, way more things than what's listed above will surface.

Great post!!

At one time we heard everyone put there differences aside and were pulling together for Haleigh. "That is the way it should be until this child is found period." After Haleigh is found, then go on to the custody battle if they feel that is what is needed. Talking trash and airing dirty laundry on each other in the media is not finding Haleigh JMHO. There is a time and a place for everything and now is not the time JMHO.

Seems they forget, THIS IS ALL ABOUT HALEIGH AND HALEIGH ONLY UNTIL SHE IS FOUND.

 

[texasmommy39]

Uhm...we can't discuss some of those things up here. See the front page of the thread downstairs.

Can you let me know what we are not supposed to mention.

 

[Donjeta]

Great post!!

At one time we heard everyone put there differences aside and were pulling together for Haleigh. "That is the way it should be until this child is found period." After Haleigh is found, then go on to the custody battle if they feel that is what is needed. Talking trash and airing dirty laundry on each other in the media is not finding Haleigh JMHO. There is a time and a place for everything and now is not the time JMHO.

Seems they forget, THIS IS ALL ABOUT HALEIGH AND HALEIGH ONLY UNTIL SHE IS FOUND.

I don't agree with this. While I'm all for families to put their feuds aside and to try to solve their disagreements, and I don't think it's a good idea for separated parents and their families to bash each other on television or elsewhere, the siblings of a missing child are just as important as the missing child. For all we know Haleigh may have been dead for over a month now and she may never be found. Meanwhile, Jr. is in need of lots support in a traumatic situation. *If* Jr. is in an unsafe situation where the parent/s cannot take care of his needs, is he just supposed to stay and suffer because this is about Haleigh only, everything else should be put aside and nothing should be done to help him until Haleigh is found? Not in my opinion. If he needs help now, he needs to get it now and not in some uncertain time in the future when his sister possibly is found. If she's found when Jr. is 34, it's too late to do anything about the custody arrangements even if it had been necessary.

The custody dispute does nothing to lessen the likelihood of Haleigh's remains to be found if she's been dumped on a roadside somewhere by a stranger abductor. It's not like the judges making decisions about the custody dispute would be out looking for her with bloodhounds if their time was not taken by this stupid custody dispute. If this is a familial abduction masterminded by the Sheffield side and they've hidden Haleigh until they can get Jr too, dragging out the custody proceedings wouldn't hasten her being "found" either.

I'm not saying that Crystal should have him or that she's the better parent. I'm saying that Jr's needs cannot be put aside until Haleigh is found.

 

[cuppy199]

I don't agree with this. While I'm all for families to put their feuds aside and to try to solve their disagreements, and I don't think it's a good idea for separated parents and their families to bash each other on television or elsewhere, the siblings of a missing child are just as important as the missing child. For all we know Haleigh may have been dead for over a month now and she may never be found. Meanwhile, Jr. is in need of lots support in a traumatic situation. *If* Jr. is in an unsafe situation where the parent/s cannot take care of his needs, is he just supposed to stay and suffer because this is about Haleigh only, everything else should be put aside and nothing should be done to help him until Haleigh is found? Not in my opinion. If he needs help now, he needs to get it now and not in some uncertain time in the future when his sister possibly is found. If she's found when Jr. is 34, it's too late to do anything about the custody arrangements even if it had been necessary.

The custody dispute does nothing to lessen the likelihood of Haleigh's remains to be found if she's been dumped on a roadside somewhere by a stranger abductor. It's not like the judges making decisions about the custody dispute would be out looking for her with bloodhounds if their time was not taken by this stupid custody dispute. If this is a familial abduction masterminded by the Sheffield side and they've hidden Haleigh until they can get Jr too, dragging out the custody proceedings wouldn't hasten her being "found" either.

I'm not saying that Crystal should have him or that she's the better parent. I'm saying that Jr's needs cannot be put aside until Haleigh is found.

How does sling mud on national TV help RJ?