Crystal S., Haleigh's mother #8

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  • #241
and NG did not have an expert on talking about a decomposing HaLeigh during CS segment. To me that would be more horrifying than being harranged by a show host.

Yeah I noticed, after she talked the ME, she turned to Ronald and his non-reaction floored me! He didnt even flinch either! Actually, I've never seen anyone with a child missing who is so stoned faced. Crystal, didnt know what to say! I would be still- 6 months later a total wreck and honestly let someone else handle the media- which is what they should be doing.

And if it was me that NG turned to, just after she spoke to a ME about the condition of a childs remains, I would of jumped up and ripped the ear piece out, reached thru to the camera guy and well, done something violent, setting the example! If she would of come at me the way she did Crystal, same thing- I wouldnt sit there and take that slap. NG had no right to do either parent the way she did. I dont find that portion of it entertaining.
 
  • #242
Maybe that can explain it, but I think it is downright wrong for a woman to look down her nose at another woman. I know full well that there are women out there that could use a helping hand rather than a dirty look. In my opinion NG was sending a message that she was a better human being than Crystal because of the way she lives her life. Seeing the look of disgust on her face gave me a clearer picture of the type of woman Nancy truly is. The type to offer a dirty look rather than a helping hand.

:clap:

ITA with you there. I tell you, I dont even know why that was part of the questioning. It almost felt like a intentional trip-up. And the thing is Crystal shouldnt have went on the air. She didnt learn anything from the last verbal slap-down. IDK, maybe she thought this would be different and NG would treat her a little better, considering the non-answers Ronald gave the night before about Mistys LDT results. I hope they learn to stay far far away from Nancy dis-Grace. MOO
 
  • #243
Hi Kool Look! :)

BBM-- Crystal has mentioned it before. I don't have the link, but just the other day I saw one of the interviews, Marie was there with her.

Not sure why she didn't mention it in the most recent NG interview. Probably a mix of being caught off guard and her attorney advising her not to stir the pot too much. Told her not to antagonize. She was so tame regarding Misty, unnaturally so imo. I believe she probably hates Misty and has most likely cussed her name up and down in private, yet she kept her composure during that interview.

Crystal seems to be a non-confrontational person by nature, but I think her being so quiet and uninformative was per her attorney's request. She and Marie were mainly just there to make an appearance to represent and support Haleigh. imo

True......Crystal seems really guarded when it comes to questions related to the investigation. I'm sure ,just like everyone else.....she may have been told "TO WATCH WHAT YOU SAY" by someone.
 
  • #244
I have a rough time searching TJs site for articles but there were a couple, in one Marie is mentioned specifically. One of the reasons given was they felt Haleigh was alive so were angry that TM was coming back to search. In addition, if you follow her twitter and her supporter twitter sites there was plenty of comments about how unhappy she was and even a request for donations to not be sent to TES as he was supporting RC and Misty held the answers so why should their money pay for searches when Misty could tell them where Haleigh is. Then once TM came out that Misty failed the test, they switched gears and TM is wonderful and started a drive to get donations sent to TES.

No Busy, I don't have twitter or follow it. I dont even know that we are supposed to use twitter as a source for information her at WS. At least I thought even the Myspace stuff was not allowed to be mentioned, because that may not be of factual source.
IMO, we have no real solid info that either parent is still using drugs. The source of where that comes again, another unreliable source. Its hearsay.

And as far as her mom switching gears, seems to me she's just going with what she feels at the time is the right thing. I would say, when TES was first brought into do another search by Ronalds families request, I wasnt too happy about it either. Especially, when the article read that TES would return in about 6 weeks when the ground was less dense! to look in at spots that were'nt searchd very well the first time. That line told me they were looking for remains, I'd be upset too! But when TM came out with the results and said that TN, RC & MC were turning on him......I would definatly line up with the right side. KWIM. In other words, if your'e gonna flip-flop on an issue, it better be at the right side of things and not align with the wrong side. MOO
 
  • #245
True......Crystal seems really guarded when it comes to questions related to the investigation. I'm sure ,just like everyone else.....she may have been told "TO WATCH WHAT YOU SAY" by someone.

I didn't see her as guarded. I see her as taken aback, assaulted, blown out of the water by the rudeness heaped upon her by a talkshow host with an attitude problem.
 
  • #246
I didn't see her as guarded. I see her as taken aback, assaulted, blown out of the water by the rudeness heaped upon her by a talkshow host with an attitude problem.

umm, well maybe after NG said those things. I guess. But I was saying while she was trying to answer questions related to the investigation.

But yeah, certainly blown out when NG was reacting and badgering her. sure
 
  • #247
True......Crystal seems really guarded when it comes to questions related to the investigation. I'm sure ,just like everyone else.....she may have been told "TO WATCH WHAT YOU SAY" by someone.

Marie tweeted this after the NG show. Ron told Crystal that more than once.
 
  • #248
umm, well maybe after NG said those things. I guess. But I was saying while she was trying to answer questions related to the investigation.

But yeah, certainly blown out when NG was reacting and badgering her. sure
It dawned on me, after watching the NG show last night, that the reason she is extra hard on Crystal probably stems from the custody suit. I imagine Nancy didn't regard the tactic of changing the focus from finding Haleigh to custody of Jr too highly. I don't think that was Crystal's doing; I think it was Marie's doing, but it backfired in that many people found it disgusting and now Crystal has to pay the price. JMO.
 
  • #249
It dawned on me, after watching the NG show last night, that the reason she is extra hard on Crystal probably stems from the custody suit. I imagine Nancy didn't regard the tactic of changing the focus from finding Haleigh to custody of Jr too highly. I don't think that was Crystal's doing; I think it was Marie's doing, but it backfired in that many people found it disgusting and now Crystal has to pay the price. JMO.

IF it were my child missing and my child's father and his new bride weren't willing to truthfully answer questions in reference to my child's disappearance I would be doing everything within my powere to get my other child away from them too..And I would imagine NG would be doing the same.. So I'm not buying she was rude to Crystal because she didn't take too highly to her taking the focus off Haleigh by trying to get the other child away from Ron C and Misty... JMO
 
  • #250
It dawned on me, after watching the NG show last night, that the reason she is extra hard on Crystal probably stems from the custody suit. I imagine Nancy didn't regard the tactic of changing the focus from finding Haleigh to custody of Jr too highly. I don't think that was Crystal's doing; I think it was Marie's doing, but it backfired in that many people found it disgusting and now Crystal has to pay the price. JMO.
That could be true.

Did she mention anything about HaLeigh?
 
  • #251
The drug use is based on actions and an audio of Cobra and Johnny S maybe that is hearsay I don't know. IMO it is obvious there is still current drug use by Crystal.

I don't understand the right side wrong side? If someone was coming to help find my daughter or granddaughter I wouldnt care who they were working with, I certainly wouldnt try to stop donations etc that could help find my daughter or granddaughter.

No Busy, I don't have twitter or follow it. I dont even know that we are supposed to use twitter as a source for information her at WS. At least I thought even the Myspace stuff was not allowed to be mentioned, because that may not be of factual source.
IMO, we have no real solid info that either parent is still using drugs. The source of where that comes again, another unreliable source. Its hearsay.

And as far as her mom switching gears, seems to me she's just going with what she feels at the time is the right thing. I would say, when TES was first brought into do another search by Ronalds families request, I wasnt too happy about it either. Especially, when the article read that TES would return in about 6 weeks when the ground was less dense! to look in at spots that were'nt searchd very well the first time. That line told me they were looking for remains, I'd be upset too! But when TM came out with the results and said that TN, RC & MC were turning on him......I would definatly line up with the right side. KWIM. In other words, if your'e gonna flip-flop on an issue, it better be at the right side of things and not align with the wrong side. MOO
 
  • #252
Maybe Crystal is talking with Jr. frequently during the week, that would be a big plus for her and the babe, hope so.[/QUOTE]

I would feel better knowing Ronnie Jr had a personal prepaid cell phone which he could use to talk to his mother on a regular basis. It seems fair; heck Misty and Ron got prepaid cell phones from TM when they got out-of-Dodge.

In regards to CS's involvement in her children's lives while they were with Ron, I think the dynamics between Misty and Crystal are important. For example, Misty may have been jealous of the children's relationship with Crystal and hence Misty discouraged contact from CS while the children were under her care. Misty states the children loved her and she was really good to those kids, so why would they need their other mother? Any sincere efforts from Crystal towards her children could have been misunderstood by Misty as interference and rejected.
 
  • #253
IMHO.. For NG to have treated Crystal the way she did proved to me that she lied when she told Ron C.... "I know you".. She doesn't know Ron C at all or the lenghts he'll go to in order to manipulate and attempt to control the women in his life...JMO


Are you friends with NG? also could you provide a link to the fact you have pointed out that he is manipulative? I have not saw anywhere and would love to see it . TIA
 
  • #254
Maybe Crystal is talking with Jr. frequently during the week, that would be a big plus for her and the babe, hope so.

I would feel better knowing Ronnie Jr had a personal prepaid cell phone which he could use to talk to his mother on a regular basis. It seems fair; heck Misty and Ron got prepaid cell phones from TM when they got out-of-Dodge.

*snipped as to the part of your post I'm addressing*

Hi Bluesky!

I don't think there's any reason Junior needs a cell phone. He's only 4 year's old. Most kids his age have toy cell phones. :)

Under the modified custody agreement which was docketed in July 14th:

2009-07-14 065.AGREED ORDER ON CHILDRENS ISSUES - AWN

communication between Crystal and the children was one of the issues that was worked out between Crystal and Ron. Hopefully with that spelled out, there won't be any questions, nor any problems. It's definitely in Junior's best interest to have BOTH his parents involved in his life.


Here is a portion of the agreement filed with the Court showing that both parties are allowed daily phone contact while with the other parent. This was signed by the Judge on July 13, 2009. If neither parent abides by the agreement, s/he will be in contempt of Court.

telephonecontact.jpg


http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=9917966&key=YmU2OWJlYmYt&pass=NmUxNy00Mzgy
 
  • #255
Maybe Crystal is talking with Jr. frequently during the week, that would be a big plus for her and the babe, hope so.

I would feel better knowing Ronnie Jr had a personal prepaid cell phone which he could use to talk to his mother on a regular basis. It seems fair; heck Misty and Ron got prepaid cell phones from TM when they got out-of-Dodge.

In regards to CS's involvement in her children's lives while they were with Ron, I think the dynamics between Misty and Crystal are important. For example, Misty may have been jealous of the children's relationship with Crystal and hence Misty discouraged contact from CS while the children were under her care. Misty states the children loved her and she was really good to those kids, so why would they need their other mother? Any sincere efforts from Crystal towards her children could have been misunderstood by Misty as interference and rejected.[/quote]

Good afternoon Blue, loved the hat name. Since you quoted me above, I'm interested in this post. It's possible one or both of the two gals could have caused un-neccesary friction in the home. I'm leaning towards maybe not because it appears Misty had full reign and control over this two young children, making decisions, having possessiveness in her voice as she refers to them. So I'm thinking Crystal wasn't involved due to her choices, not because she was pushed away with parental alienation.

I do know all about those alienation techniques, had them used on me, and when one person doesn't want to get along, you are not going to make them. I don't see any evidence of Ron, Misty or Crystal being in conflict prior though to the disappearance. But I agree with you this could have been going on, and if so, it's a shame and I wouldn't condone it. I also agree with your interpretations of how Misty could have perceived things based on Crystals rightful position with her children, though we haven't heard to my knowledge there were any conflicts prior. These type of situations bring out the worse in people.

The only thing I am so far away in agreeing with is giving the babe a cell phone. Nope! Kids and cell phones in this country is out of hand. Kids need to be subjected and submissive to their parents, not have one up, or the ability to do things as a child will do when they don't get their way and do childish things like play parents against each other, things like that. He's way too young for a prepaid cell phone. He should be given the phone, encouraged to call his Mommy weekly and talk with her. Being guided into things to inform her of, like his activities.

I appreciate your opinion, the dynamics in this family are high strung, and without proper control and discipline from the adults, things could go astray quick.
 
  • #256
*snipped as to the part of your post I'm addressing*

Hi Bluesky!

I don't think there's any reason Junior needs a cell phone. He's only 4 year's old. Most kids his age have toy cell phones. :)

Under the modified custody agreement which was docketed in July 14th:

2009-07-14 065.AGREED ORDER ON CHILDRENS ISSUES - AWN

communication between Crystal and the children was one of the issues that was worked out between Crystal and Ron. Hopefully with that spelled out, there won't be any questions, nor any problems. It's definitely in Junior's best interest to have BOTH his parents involved in his life.


Here is a portion of the agreement filed with the Court showing that both parties are allowed daily phone contact while with the other parent. This was signed by the Judge on July 13, 2009. If neither parent abides by the agreement, s/he will be in contempt of Court.

telephonecontact.jpg


http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=9917966&key=YmU2OWJlYmYt&pass=NmUxNy00Mzgy

I commend the judge on this. I also agree with your stance on the cell phone, and appreciate Blue's perspective too.
 
  • #257
This is true, but when it comes down to it, Crystal not knowing the school schedule has no bearing on Haleigh's disappearance. imo

Crystal's parenting style may leave much to be desired in many folks eyes, but all in all, Ron was the custodial parent. Haleigh went missing on his watch..... or on the watch of the person who he so recklessly left those babies with.

I have to say that in regards to Crystal not knowing the bus schedule...yes she could have called...yes, she should have. The Rc who would not allow her to know where the children resided, who blocked her vehicle to keep her from leaving, that RC that was arrested for assault....he may not have been the easiest person to get info out of about the children. I do not see the Misty that was the one "those children loved as a Mommy" being much more forthcoming with info either. Crystal does seem to be not so proactive in getting her rights and info....
 
  • #258
I have to say that in regards to Crystal not knowing the bus schedule...yes she could have called...yes, she should have. The Rc who would not allow her to know where the children resided, who blocked her vehicle to keep her from leaving, that RC that was arrested for assault....he may not have been the easiest person to get info out of about the children. I do not see the Misty that was the one "those children loved as a Mommy" being much more forthcoming with info either. Crystal does seem to be not so proactive in getting her rights and info....

I believe with that latest court hearing regarding custodial issues, that last part (BBM) has changed for Crystal.

Go Crystal!
 
  • #259
I believe with that latest court hearing regarding custodial issues, that last part (BBM) has changed for Crystal.

Go Crystal!

I concur.
 
  • #260
IMHO.. For NG to have treated Crystal the way she did proved to me that she lied when she told Ron C.... "I know you".. She doesn't know Ron C at all or the lenghts he'll go to in order to manipulate and attempt to control the women in his life...JMO


BB-That is JMO too!!
 
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