CT- Annie Le, missing from Yale, thread #4 FOUND DECEASED

[goldie finch]

Or was LET IN . . . A possibility

Is it possible Annie couldn't find her card & that is why the girl is holding the door open for her... maybe she called ahead to a friend to let her in. Maybe the perp had her card. He let himself in with her card so as not to use his card.

 

[STEADFAST]

Maybe they're waiting to see if she was raped. I think that's the only thing that could get her murderer the death penalty in Connecticut.
CONNECTICUT
Capital Felony
A person convicted of a capital felony can be sentenced to either the death penalty or life imprisonment without the possibility of release. A person commits a capital felony if he:
1. murders, while the victim was acting within the scope of his duties, a police officer, Division of Criminal Justice inspector, state marshal exercising his statutory authority, judicial marshal performing his duties, constable performing law enforcement duties, special policeman, conservation or special conservation officer appointed by the environmental protection commissioner, Department of Correction (DOC) employee or service provider acting within the scope of his employment in a correctional facility and the perpetrator is an inmate, or firefighter;
2. murders for pay or hires someone to murder;
3. murders and was previously convicted of intentional murder or murder while a felony was committed;
4. murders while sentenced to life imprisonment;
5. murders a kidnapped person and is the kidnapper;
6. murders while committing first-degree sexual assault;
7. murders two or more people at the same time or in the course of a single transaction; or
8. murders a person under age 16 (CGS § 53a-54b).

http://www.cga.ct.gov/2005/rpt/2005-R-0136.htm

 

[Missy70Texas]

Is it possible Annie couldn't find her card & that is why the girl is holding the door open for her... maybe she called ahead to a friend to let her in. Maybe the perp had her card. He let himself in with her card so as not to use his card.

That's right there is footage of someone holding the door as Annie Le is approaching, does that mean she did not swipe her card to get into the building?? However there are reports that they have record of her swiping the card to get in?? To get in where??

 

[raeann]

Yes, it would be in his best interest to get a lawyer. But it isn't in the interest of LE to have the suspect represented by an attorney during the questioning, especially since there is no indication that he is under arrest. If the suspect is arrested and invokes his right to counsel and his right to silence, then it would most certainly be in LE's interest to question him with an attorney present. Why? Well, they wouldn't be able to question him without his lawyer present. In fact, they couldn't even try to reinitiate conversation with him!

I suspect one among many of the reasons LE hasn't arrested him yet (let alone charged him) is that all sorts of constitutional rights vest when that happens. Right now, LE has maximum flexibility in terms of contacting the suspect and "offering deals."

I agree with most of what is posted here....except the "offering deals". LE has no authority to offer deals, this can only be done after charges are brought and there are attorney's, prosecutors and DA's on the case. These are the judicial people, LE has nothing to do with whether a person actually does get a sentence for their crime. Although.....many of them would be happy to oblige in the decision making if they could do so!

jmoo

 

[Momtofour]

Found information on Yale's Animal services area

http://info.med.yale.edu/yarc/keyservices.htm

 

[Porfiry Petrovich]

Now that they've found her body, identified the crime scene and collected evidence, I don't see any reason that they'd want to make a deal with a suspect.

I put "deals" in quotation marks for a reason. LE can legally mislead suspects with all sorts of nonsense ( e.g., fictional deals and playing up the evidence they have) in order to get the suspect to confess or at least make some incriminating statements.

Another post mentions LE not having the "authority" to make deals. Of course they don't. But that isn't the point! The point is that LE may pretend (by lying) to have such authority in order to induce a confession or get the suspect to talk. That's much easier to do if the individual isn't under arrest (or any functional equivalent).

Of course, doing that is close to impossible if he is arrested and lawyers up or even (though less so) if he lawyers up prior to being arrested.

 

[cook78]

Cached Lab Members...Animal Technician

http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cach...ech&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

 

[TonyGatto]

I agree with most of what is posted here....except the "offering deals". LE has no authority to offer deals, this can only be done after charges are brought and there are attorney's, prosecutors and DA's on the case. These are the judicial people, LE has nothing to do with whether a person actually does get a sentence for their crime. Although.....many of them would be happy to oblige in the decision making if they could do so!

jmoo

Absolutely correct. Here's the deal the cops will give ...confess and we'll do all we can to help you.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

That's right there is footage of someone holding the door as Annie Le is approaching, does that mean she did not swipe her card to get into the building?? However there are reports that they have record of her swiping the card to get in?? To get in where??

She swiped to get into her lab...at least that's how I took it. I thought the area she worked in, did most of her experiments in, needed a card swipe in order to enter. Isn't that how they know she was in the building, according to her card swipe. I thought that's why they concentrated so hard on the area she was in - the basement lab area.

 

[Momtofour]

Found information on Yale's Animal services area

http://info.med.yale.edu/yarc/keyservices.htm

listed for Amistad Building is an HM

 

[Indianagirl]

Absolutely correct. Here's the deal the cops will give ...confess and we'll do all we can to help you.

Exactly! :clap:

 

[Mouse]

Maybe they're waiting to see if she was raped. I think that's the only thing that could get her murderer the death penalty in Connecticut.
CONNECTICUT
Capital Felony
A person convicted of a capital felony can be sentenced to either the death penalty or life imprisonment without the possibility of release. A person commits a capital felony if he:
1. murders, while the victim was acting within the scope of his duties, a police officer, Division of Criminal Justice inspector, state marshal exercising his statutory authority, judicial marshal performing his duties, constable performing law enforcement duties, special policeman, conservation or special conservation officer appointed by the environmental protection commissioner, Department of Correction (DOC) employee or service provider acting within the scope of his employment in a correctional facility and the perpetrator is an inmate, or firefighter;
2. murders for pay or hires someone to murder;
3. murders and was previously convicted of intentional murder or murder while a felony was committed;
4. murders while sentenced to life imprisonment;
5. murders a kidnapped person and is the kidnapper;
6. murders while committing first-degree sexual assault;
7. murders two or more people at the same time or in the course of a single transaction; or
8. murders a person under age 16 (CGS § 53a-54b).

http://www.cga.ct.gov/2005/rpt/2005-R-0136.htm

I'm not sure, but I think the legal definition of kidnapping is "forcibly holding someone against his or her will," so it doesn't have to mean "takes from one place to another." Kind of how "premeditation" can happen in the few minutes before the crime, when you form the intent to commit the crime when there's still a chance to back out, so "premeditation" doesn't always have to mean "planned months in advance." So there might be a chance of being a DP case even if there was no sexual assault. While sexual assault is, sadly, probably likely in this case, I think that scratches on the chest don't necessarily have to mean sexual assault, but just that the victim was short. My husband is a foot taller than me, and my head comes to about his armpit. If I were flailing around desperately and scratching him through his clothing, I would likely scratch his chest, but not be able to reach high enough to scratch his face, probably.

 

[wanttohelp]

"Police would not talk officially about specific suspects but did say no Yale student is a suspect in the case."

are the techs, etc students?

 

[petchie]

most labs of these types you have to swipe or fob in. You can swipe to get into the building, then you have to swipe again to get into YOUR lab. Your card or fob does not work on anyone elses lab security unless the powers that be have given you access for some reason or another

 

[fhc]

Found information on Yale's Animal services area

http://info.med.yale.edu/yarc/keyservices.htm

MEC's phone # removed. Someone posted earlier that the tech's name was in initials and # removed and that was the suspect, iirc. Does anyone else remember this?

 

[concentric]

I hate to even say it because it's un imaginable but they have said it's not a student, they have said it's not the fiance, so im thinking a maintenance worker, construction worker because they have been remodeling the building, a professor, or even worse one of the parents. They have said repeaditly it's not the fiance but never once said anything about the rest of the family. That's a scary thought

I think it was Friday's Nancy Grace show when a lady who called in asked if the perp. could be someone from the family, I suppose that could mean extended family who was angry about her marrying someone out of her race.
Something like that. And Jean and panel were interested in that perspective.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0909/11/ng.01.html
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Thank you. Has anyone questioned the family? Sometimes they wouldn`t want them to marry out of their race, and it`s a possibility they`re just keeping her away until after the wedding would have been.

CASAREZ: Ah! Very interesting question. I see what you`re saying. To Stacy Kaiser, psychotherapist out of Los Angeles. Marjorie has an interesting question in regard to all of that, and my thought was we haven`t seen anybody from the family. This is a missing person. This is someone that you want to find. Wouldn`t somebody come out and ask for help?

 

[wanttohelp]

"Robert Alpern, dean of the Yale School of Medicine, where Le was studying for a Ph.D. in pharmacology, told the Yale Daily News that access to the basement where the body was found is limited to people with Yale magnetic identification cards."

This makes me think there might be multiple places you need to scan the card. not just building entrance.

 

[STEADFAST]

BTW, Welcome Porfiry and any other new posters I've missed! (Like the literary nic. ) Posts are coming fast and furiously today.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Wow that reporter woman who is on the campus scene right now must have been dead wrong then? I could have sworn she said that the police said there were no suspect.

They always say there is no suspect...until they cuff n stuff 'em.

 

[jodierenee]

You don't have to be a student to work in the labs...guess they could be right about the whole "not a student" thing.