GUILTY CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, deceased/not found, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #71

[LosAngeles]

Is MT saying that she would have had a successful outcome if she wasn't represented by Bowman? Successful meaning not incarcerated? That makes no sense to me. She could have severed the relationship after the 1st interview if she was feeling he wasn't the best fit for her (regardless if a third party hired him...Fotis). I recall her getting on her knees at one point and begging him for something in one interview. Such a waste of taxpayers money.

 

[Jmoose]

IMO it would have to be determined if there was a signed retainer agreement between FD and AB. If so, there could be a conflict of interest, I suppose, in AB then representing MT, if her defense was going to be that she was innocent of FD's actions. But I'd think FD would have been the one to claim the conflict--as a former client?

Yeah, especially if she’d squealed on him!

 

[Jmoose]

If memory serves me, FD hired Bowman FOR MT. To be HER attorney. IMO he already had his own attorney lined up.

Won't surprise if she's trying to rewrite this history too.

The nerve.

JMO

I’m still struggling with the timing of all of it-why did she need a lawyer that early on? It’s proof to me that she knows she did something wrong. After all, if she wasn’t with FD during the morning and early part of the afternoon, and did not help set up his alibi, and help clean up the aftermath, why would anyone think she needed an attorney? She could prove where she was when the murder was being committed, so she is off the hook for that…what was she worried about? What could she say to the police that would get her into trouble? I think FD wanted an attorney with her when she spoke to the police, not to protect her, but to protect himself from her saying the wrong thing-Bowman was Dulos’s safety net, because he’d help control her by not letting her answer some questions (or at least Dulos hoped so). She knew things, and did things, and that could hurt FD.

 

[pernickety]

Is MT saying that she would have had a successful outcome if she wasn't represented by Bowman? Successful meaning not incarcerated? That makes no sense to me. She could have severed the relationship after the 1st interview if she was feeling he wasn't the best fit for her (regardless if a third party hired him...Fotis). I recall her getting on her knees at one point and begging him for something in one interview. Such a waste of taxpayers money.

Does MT waive attorney-client privilege by accusing Bowman of poor representation? Is it like when one brings a malpractice case against one's lawyer--the lawyer has the right to defend his professional reputation, so he can reveal things about the case? Will AB reveal certain things about the representation we might've wondered about, e.g., the pail with the dark sweatshirt and some kind of tool in it that Norm P. passed to AB after FD's death, and AB then apparently passed to JS, who passed it to that attorney gal (who became a judge), who then passed it on to LE?

 

[Seattle1]

If memory serves me, FD hired Bowman FOR MT. To be HER attorney. IMO he already had his own attorney lined up.

Won't surprise if she's trying to rewrite this history too.

The nerve.

JMO

I think @Tink56 took one for the team, and read the petition -- maybe they'll chime in here and confirm what MT alleged about Fotis hiring Bowman. But I absolutely agree about MT most likely rewriting history!

 

[Nieves]

It seems clear to me that money was the reason that F sought custody. Secondarily, he wanted to harm Jennifer by taking what she loved the most from her.

While his decisions such as seeking custody and committing murder were VERY detrimental to his children, it doesn't mean he didn't love them. It just meant he forgot about them while working to harm Jennifer.

He threw out 5 babies with the bath water, and the bath water wasn't even dirty.

MOO

Yes. Her money and the desire to harm Jennifer.

 

[Nieves]

You can copy/link them over. Works like a charm.

I am late to THIS part of the party.

And I'm gobsmacked and horrified.

All this time, I was imagining the master plan to be disappearing JFd.

Staged suicide. Facepalm.

He followed through partially.

Thought he could incapacitate her WITHOUT INJURY (or blood loss or scuffle), ziptie her, drive her to Waveny. Walk her in deep with her phone and force her to swallow a revolver. Maybe KM was instrumental in providing him a conveniently untraceable one.

Then FD would walk back to the Tacoma and drive away.

JFd would be found quickly, no one would question FD's careful work call alibi, he'd have the children by days' end.

No clean up, no trash, no ponchos, no odyssey.

Just FD back at work at 80 MS not doing much of anything, same as usual, or sitting up in his office, nary a care in the world.

Can you even IMAGINE the rage when JFd fought back and changed everything?

Would LE have gotten bus cam video? Maybe. But maybe not. Open and closed, suicide. Surely he would have underestimated JFd all around and it would have been messy enough to call it into question. Hopefully.

But it's sickening and frightening to think he'd have been HAPPY to leave his children believing their mother took her own life. That's rancid.

One thing is certain. FD and MT are a matched set. A match made in hell.

JMO

Yes. F and M very well matched

 

[Nieves]

^^rsbm

Given Momma Troconis was seated directly behind the defendant, she too had to see the enlarged pica text that CL was able to view from an angled distance. Actually, I don't doubt everybody in this family has long had copy of the sealed report! IMO, they were all in on MT's defense effort to leak this info that they could use it to their advantage. I believe the claim was something like Mom tapped daughter on the shoulder as she eyed MT's laptop screen.

What a family

 

[Nieves]

You’re forgetting: “I need an interpreter - English is not my first language! I didn’t know what was on my computer screen”. (JMO)!
What a looser she is! What a liar she is! What a piece of — she is! Her whole family - and daughter - need to hightail it back to Venezuela - let the baby daddy settle this once and for all! Or, if that doesn’t work: go to Greece and let fotis’ family deal with the fallout.

They are all dregs of society (JMO).

Yes. Very liar.

 

[Tink56]

If memory serves me, FD hired Bowman FOR MT. To be HER attorney. IMO he already had his own attorney lined up.

Won't surprise if she's trying to rewrite this history too.

The nerve.

JMO

I think your memory is absolutely correct! And, you won't be surprised....dear MT is a revisionist.

 

[pernickety]

I think your memory is absolutely correct! And, you won't be surprised....dear MT is a revisionist.

https://www.greenwichtime.com/news/article/carlos-michelle-troconis-inmates-ct-prisons-20819033.php

"...But, Carlos Troconis said, the problems facing the prison and other correctional facilities in the state need to be brought to light and resolved. "The showers back up which can cause fungal infections and the heat was very low in the winter," he said. "There are lockdowns for four or five days in a row. It creates isolation and can enhance depression."

He's not just concerned about his daughter, but every woman who is incarcerated at York, he said.

"I want to be an advocate for the prisons," Carlos Troconis said. "I want to humanize the prisons a bit." "

 

[Jmoose]

https://www.greenwichtime.com/news/article/carlos-michelle-troconis-inmates-ct-prisons-20819033.php

"...But, Carlos Troconis said, the problems facing the prison and other correctional facilities in the state need to be brought to light and resolved. "The showers back up which can cause fungal infections and the heat was very low in the winter," he said. "There are lockdowns for four or five days in a row. It creates isolation and can enhance depression."

He's not just concerned about his daughter, but every woman who is incarcerated at York, he said.

"I want to be an advocate for the prisons," Carlos Troconis said. "I want to humanize the prisons a bit." "

He could just teach his women to stop doing things that’ll put them in these “inhumane” places.

 

[LosAngeles]

Pretty sure co-conspiring a murder is considered inhumane. The act is defined as inhumane because it is extremely cruel and violates fundamental human dignity. It's cruel, heartless and has no regard to human life or the pain they caused others. What a clueless family.

 

[Megnut]

https://www.greenwichtime.com/news/article/carlos-michelle-troconis-inmates-ct-prisons-20819033.php

"...But, Carlos Troconis said, the problems facing the prison and other correctional facilities in the state need to be brought to light and resolved. "The showers back up which can cause fungal infections and the heat was very low in the winter," he said. "There are lockdowns for four or five days in a row. It creates isolation and can enhance depression."

He's not just concerned about his daughter, but every woman who is incarcerated at York, he said.

"I want to be an advocate for the prisons," Carlos Troconis said. "I want to humanize the prisons a bit." "

Well, she was never one for solo showering so I'm unmoved.

And between her and hairy mold, I'd say she's far more dangerous.

JMO

 

[Cloudydiamond]

https://www.greenwichtime.com/news/article/carlos-michelle-troconis-inmates-ct-prisons-20819033.php

"...But, Carlos Troconis said, the problems facing the prison and other correctional facilities in the state need to be brought to light and resolved. "The showers back up which can cause fungal infections and the heat was very low in the winter," he said. "There are lockdowns for four or five days in a row. It creates isolation and can enhance depression."

He's not just concerned about his daughter, but every woman who is incarcerated at York, he said.

"I want to be an advocate for the prisons," Carlos Troconis said. "I want to humanize the prisons a bit." "

Oh FFS.

 

[LosAngeles]

Carlos has until 2038 to accomplish his mission (earliest release date for his daughter). Until then, ship sweaters and shower shoes.

 

[sleuth66]

"There are also issues with the quality of the food, which consists of too many highly processed meats and not enough fresh fruit and vegetables, Carlos Troconis said. That issue could easily be addressed by York and the DOC starting a farm at the prison, which would also provide job skills for when women are released, he added."

Has MT forgotten her love of meats? All those gross pictures of whole animal carcass asados that she posted to IG while she and FD were secretly communicating...and that there was smoke coming out of the chimney every time she returned to 4JX the day of the murder.

Job skills? Does papa really think that MT is going to work a day in her life? In the fields no less? She will be retirement age anyway by the time she gets out.

 

[Megnut]

"There are also issues with the quality of the food, which consists of too many highly processed meats and not enough fresh fruit and vegetables, Carlos Troconis said. That issue could easily be addressed by York and the DOC starting a farm at the prison, which would also provide job skills for when women are released, he added."

Has MT forgotten her love of meats? All those gross pictures of whole animal carcass asados that she posted to IG while she and FD were secretly communicating...and that there was smoke coming out of the chimney every time she returned to 4JX the day of the murder.

Job skills? Does papa really think that MT is going to work a day in her life? In the fields no less? She will be retirement age anyway by the time she gets out.

I have no issue with anyone who wants to improve prison conditions but the inmate isn't at name camp and she's not 12. Maybe for once she should be made to stand on her own legs and lie in the bed on the cot she made.

Maybe she'll learn some humility.

JMO

 

[LosAngeles]

Wholeheartedly agree that their should be prison reform on many levels, but Carlos’s interview, to me, highlights MT’s need for continuous emotional care, rescuing and constant intervention by her parents who appear to have never expected her to take ownership/responsibility for her own actions that come with consequences.
I’m sure many adult inmates would like a better situation while incarcerated, so since she’s a well known inmate who has the great fortune to be given a platform to speak, I suggest that she speak herself to improve conditions for all inmates. It could aid in her quest for improving her English language skills. She has 14 years to make a difference.
I am also hopeful that while incarcerated she’s learning to be self reliant because for once in her life she’s alone without any support of family, husbands, boyfriends, ex husbands, baby daddy’s in a not so pleasant and humbling circumstance in a community that, unfortunately, she has much more in common with than those living in Farmington, Connecticut. This way, when she’s released in 2038, she won’t even think about assisting in the murder of a mother of 5 children. It won’t even cross her mind.

 

[pernickety]

Wholeheartedly agree that their should be prison reform on many levels, but Carlos’s interview, to me, highlights MT’s need for continuous emotional care, rescuing and constant intervention by her parents who appear to have never expected her to take ownership/responsibility for her own actions that come with consequences.

I've wondered how Dr. Carlos's present wife feels about his ongoing involvement with Michelle's situation, and how it affects their marriage. (I'm assuming he IS still married to someone who isn't Michi's mother)