GUILTY CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, deceased/not found, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #71

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Didn’t F. Lee Bailey lose his license to practice law? Why would he cite Bailey, for any reason at all?
Yes. Misappropriating funds.
 
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Thanks for putting these details here about PG and his working with the police for so long as I think the history of PG working with police and being an actual cooperator with the State is super important and highly relevant to this farce of a discussion of MT as a potential 'cooperator'. I really wish that Atty Colangelo had said more about the PG situation in his testimony. Overall I was hugely disappointed in the Colangelo testimony and IDK why he was not crystal clear about the idea that MT was not a candidate for cooperation agreement following her lies on top of lies. I hope that if we hear from Det. Kimball that he puts a HUGE PIN into the resources devoted to proving out the MT many lies and that he also explains her wasting police resources with her trips into the woods to 'look for Jennifer'.

I simply am baffled by MT attorneys and the Clown show attorney Fitzgerald believing that MT would have been a viable candidate for a cooperation agreement after it was clear she was lying and kept reading off the alibi script. Even if she had gotten an agreement at any point, after the investigation proved out the details of Dulos and Troconis lies then any agreement would have been voided by the many MT lies. To me, the issue here is that MT knew precisely what she was saying and that what she was saying was untrue and absolutely fabricated to hinder and deceive police and prosecutors (I don't believe the language issue was significant enough to preclude her understanding) and that her level of involvement in all that happened absolutely precluded her ever being able to tell the truth. There was NO MYSTERY why she was unable to testify under oath at her trial. It enraged me that Judge Randolph gave her the ability to plea on her own behalf after not choosing to testify under oath as this process simply gave her yet another platform for her pathological imo lying to protect herself as her default reaction to being under attack. I am reminded by the words of the MT daughter at the impact statement hearing about her mother and I do think that the MT daughter cared more about her mother than her mother EVER CARED ABOUT HER. I hope this fact is not lost ever as the MT attorneys had the absolute audacity to put forward the LIE yet again that MT was threatened with never seeing her daughter again. This LIE was made plain in the hearing which was good but what wasnt good was that imo the entire issue of MT uprooting her young daughter from Miami to move to CT to live with a man who had lied about the status of his divorce not just once but persistently but also lied about his wealth, was not made a clear. MT knew the divorce was not 'amicable' as it became clear quickly that it wasn't, but yet she stayed and yet she herself visited the probate court to find out details of the Farber wealth and any possible provisions for the 5 Dulos children as her great greed and that of her co conspirator Dulos was imo crystal clear.

I wish we could see the report from the forensic psychologist hired by Bowman! I think Bowman hiring this professional to try and answer his many questions about MT made alot of sense and I believe it shows him being concerned about MT in general and her basic capacity to tell the truth.

The idea that Bowman can effectively be criticized and potentially discredited by an unknown local attorney simply because he believed his client and advocated on her behalf is something about this entire habeas action process that I do not understand. Bowman believed his client (clearly an error on his part but police believed MT for a time too (as did Colangelo) until it was clear she was lying and then lying about prior lies!

A cooperation agreement is not a forgone conclusion and it makes me uncomfortable to see this assumption be the default of the MT legal team and Atty Fitzpatrick. MT legal team is almost making the assumption that MT DESERVED a cooperation agreement! I find this simply mind blowing and was glad to see Colangelo put a pin into this idea. Colangelo saw through MT quickly and charged accordingly as Bowman reminded everyone today that there were THREE arrest affidavits during the period of time he was MT Counsel.

If MT is a master manipulator and liar (I happen to believe she is world class in this regard but in no way as smart as she believes herself to be) then I believe that she would have done the same routine to any other attorney (not just Bowman) and I very much question if any of the Fitzgerald commentary with criticism of Bowman would have played out had Fitzgerald (rather than Bowman) been the attorney of MT at the time!? I don't think Fitzgerald would have made a proffer (verbal or otherwise) any differently than what Bowman represented to Collangelo and I do believe that had Fitzgerald pushed hard for a cooperation agreement that he would have been rebuffed by Collangelo as what police wanted at the time was the body of JF and MT didn't seem inclined to produce this information. All bets were off after the Dulos suicide and Colangelo was clear about this issue as was Bowman.

I think another reason I'm struggling with this current farce is that MT chose to not follow the advice of Bowman and she did not tell the truth. Further, she made no later claims as to being victim of coercive control to explain her lies and ongoing support of Dulos.

I do wish that the suppression ruling had been appealed by the State as I believe Judge Randolph did not fully understand the exigent circumstances present at the time (due to his bias against CSP) and I do wish that those hearings had been made public or made transcripts fully available to the public as I don't think they were. This lack of transparency around this important issue imo was huge fault of not only Judge Randolph but the State Prosecutor. Schoenhorn also was effectively allowed to bully Det. Kimball for over 2 years with no pushback or surrport from Judge Randolph as it was clear imo that Judge Randolph was no fan of the CSP and this tainted the trial for me in a major way and also had me questioning Judge Randolph on the topic of bias. The final sentencing decision by Judge Randolph with the concurrent ruling confirmed his bias as well imo and this was further confirmed by his allowing the impact statement circus that he did as I believe he sadly believed the BS that was spewed that day from the church folks from the church were MT and her mother went briefly to court support. Its a miracle that 14.5 years sentence even happened and so to see this convicted felon not appreciating her 'gift' of a sentence is simply imo another example of her entitlement and absolute disconnection from reality.

Never a doubt in my mind that Mt and Fd truly deserved each other! Two of a kind.

More important to me was that Jennifer's children publicly thanked PG in court. Besides his testimony, IMO, the children knew that PG risked his life when he helped Jennifer secretly move some personal furnishings out of the marital home when she took the kids and escaped to the rental house. They knew Jennifer instinctively trusted PG.

PG did not want to believe Fotis capable of disappearing his wife, but the more he tried to push PG, the reality of the combined evil forces only strengthened his resolve to do right for the victims. And MT is no victim!

JMO
 
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Never a doubt in my mind that Mt and Fd truly deserved each other! Two of a kind.

More important to me was that Jennifer's children publicly thanked PG in court. Besides his testimony, IMO, the children knew that PG risked his life when he helped Jennifer secretly move some personal furnishings out of the marital home when she took the kids and escaped to the rental house. They knew Jennifer instinctively trusted PG.

PG did not want to believe Fotis capable of disappearing his wife, but the more he tried to push PG, the reality of the combined evil forces only strengthened his resolve to do right for the victims. And MT is no victim!

JMO

Not a victim.

Not an accessory.

An AGENT.

She FUELED THIS.

JMO
 
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Bowman sent to her to neuropsychologist for evaluation!
I remain intrigued by this new revelation that Bowman sent MT for evaluation by a neuropsych.

Given the Troconis clan’s squawking about being a family of so-called psychologists (remove the -logists perhaps? Mama T, Cucu, and MT herself posted her psychology degree on her Instagram) they had to have been invested in this. Did Mama T herself perhaps suggest this? Or was Bowman going to try for a battered woman syndrome type defense to excuse MTs egregious lying?

Bowman made it seem like he was wondering if there was a cognitive deficiency to explain her consistently lying, but I’m sure the T clan never would have agreed with that line of reasoning (and I’m not sure how that could be used in her defense, realistically). Maybe something connected to her adolescent time at the horse camp rehab, would be interesting to know more about that story.
 
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It IS interesting. I guess they could have called her ex husband and baby daddy to the stand and asked specific questions regarding her ability to tell the truth, but I’m sure they wouldn’t voluntarily assist in anything related to her defense.
 
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I remain intrigued by this new revelation that Bowman sent MT for evaluation by a neuropsych.

Given the Troconis clan’s squawking about being a family of so-called psychologists (remove the -logists perhaps? Mama T, Cucu, and MT herself posted her psychology degree on her Instagram) they had to have been invested in this. Did Mama T herself perhaps suggest this? Or was Bowman going to try for a battered woman syndrome type defense to excuse MTs egregious lying?

Bowman made it seem like he was wondering if there was a cognitive deficiency to explain her consistently lying, but I’m sure the T clan never would have agreed with that line of reasoning (and I’m not sure how that could be used in her defense, realistically). Maybe something connected to her adolescent time at the horse camp rehab, would be interesting to know more about that story.
I’m with you on all of this! I always wished that the horse camp owner had testified at trial under oath but I realized that would never be allowed.

I am fascinated by the idea too of someone lying to their attorney and thinking they could fool law enforcement. I bet bowman had never met anyone like mama t and Michi and my guess is that neither did Colangelo!

I would LOVE to see any psych report done for bowman and I do wonder if it’s part of the appeal file or whether it was held by him privately?
 
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I got the impression that the consultation didn't actually take place, because interrupted by LE arriving to arrest her?
The way Bowman described the meeting with the Dr I agree was a bit muddled. But, it sounded like MT was at the Dr's office at the time LE was seeking to find and arrest her. Bowman made clear that he wouldn't share the location until he arrived at the Dr Office and so I do wonder if the session was completed? Bowman didn't close the loop on the entire report. But, I do find it fascinating that Bowman wanted a professional to do an evaluation of MT.

I also find it an ongoing amusement (and totally enraging as the report imo was never protected properly by the Judges or the attorneys) that MT and Mama T continue to chase the discredited and sealed Herman report as if it were the Holy Grail for their case. Its not imo. I recall the testimony that was available in Family Court on the issue of the Herman hearing (most was sealed) but the amazing thing that happened is that Dr. Herman fled the Courtroom and refused to answer questions! Dr. absolutely could not stand up to defend the report and I think that is what has long had me believing that the entire report was tainted and corrupted by Dulos and his equally corrupt attorney Michael Rose. Rose and GAL Michael Meehan were involved with the issue of Dulos 'stealing' or 'copying' the Herman report which was against the orders of the Judge. I find it quite hilarious that the Troconis crew things there is something of value in a report that was unfinished and undefended and not only that but there is a VERY high probability imo that the report itself was paid for and so was simply bogus/BS! Love the idea of the Troconis crew hanging their hats on a bogus report from a Dr who was absolutely discredited by the Judge in Family Court!
 
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Never a doubt in my mind that Mt and Fd truly deserved each other! Two of a kind.

More important to me was that Jennifer's children publicly thanked PG in court. Besides his testimony, IMO, the children knew that PG risked his life when he helped Jennifer secretly move some personal furnishings out of the marital home when she took the kids and escaped to the rental house. They knew Jennifer instinctively trusted PG.

PG did not want to believe Fotis capable of disappearing his wife, but the more he tried to push PG, the reality of the combined evil forces only strengthened his resolve to do right for the victims. And MT is no victim!

JMO
FWIW I think your instincts and logic on all of this with the children and PG is spot on. it makes me sad to think that JF had so few allies at 4JX to help her escape but she was blessed to have PG and I'm glad that PG risked his position as much as he could to help her as I can never forget the interview with the person who owned the moving company and how he and his wife said they had to reschedule the move a number of times due to the issues going on in the house. Its so damn sad that JF worked so hard to protect her children but the Family Court system did next to nothing to protect her from her husband and his sidepiece and his corrupt best friend attorney (who should have been prosecuted imo if just to send a message to the people in the State of Corrupticut about conspiracy murder). I don't think it could have been possible for the State of Corrupticut to do less to protect JF as a victim of DV or her children and so seeing the lack of prosecution for Kent Mawhinny imo was simply the final indignity of this entire charade. What is so ironic is that over the course of the trial I think I wrote 5 letters to the Office of Victim Services which is part of the AG Tong office. Never one answer. My guess is Victims Services in Corrupticut under AG Tong is really no different than the CT Bar with their 'gone fishing' sign up always and never any oversight of the bad actors within the CT BAR imo. I'm glad in a way that this case unmasked much of the fuckery present in the CT Judiciary as it showed multiple criminal courts (Stamford and Hartford) as well as Family Court as well as the traffic court nonsense which Dulos and his accident where he badly injured someone on I84. It actually included the true sham Courts in CT which are the Probate Court fiefdoms and I think that is when I truly felt sorry for the hard work of Atty Weinstein coming to naught. For a wealthy state imo the State of Corrupticut Judiciary truly is in a class of its own!
 
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Well said. It appears the State of Connecticut provides more resources on supporting murderers and co-conspirators rights than those that actually need protecting. Family Court was an epic failure in this case and I'm sure many cases before and after Jennifer's plea for assistance. I, too, feel very sorry for the treatment of both the courts and the Troconis family has given towards Attorney Bowman, who is incredibly professional and gave MT so much honor and grace assuming her innocence based on her words until he learned otherwise via facts. Let's hope to keep MT incarcerated and away from other families and victims of violence. It's in the best interest to protect others to keep this person contained without the opportunity to harm others.
 
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The way Bowman described the meeting with the Dr I agree was a bit muddled. But, it sounded like MT was at the Dr's office at the time LE was seeking to find and arrest her. Bowman made clear that he wouldn't share the location until he arrived at the Dr Office and so I do wonder if the session was completed? Bowman didn't close the loop on the entire report. But, I do find it fascinating that Bowman wanted a professional to do an evaluation of MT.

I also find it an ongoing amusement (and totally enraging as the report imo was never protected properly by the Judges or the attorneys) that MT and Mama T continue to chase the discredited and sealed Herman report as if it were the Holy Grail for their case. Its not imo. I recall the testimony that was available in Family Court on the issue of the Herman hearing (most was sealed) but the amazing thing that happened is that Dr. Herman fled the Courtroom and refused to answer questions! Dr. absolutely could not stand up to defend the report and I think that is what has long had me believing that the entire report was tainted and corrupted by Dulos and his equally corrupt attorney Michael Rose. Rose and GAL Michael Meehan were involved with the issue of Dulos 'stealing' or 'copying' the Herman report which was against the orders of the Judge. I find it quite hilarious that the Troconis crew things there is something of value in a report that was unfinished and undefended and not only that but there is a VERY high probability imo that the report itself was paid for and so was simply bogus/BS! Love the idea of the Troconis crew hanging their hats on a bogus report from a Dr who was absolutely discredited by the Judge in Family Court!
Don’t forget, Mama isafake “psychologist” herself, so a bought and paid for, undefended psych report on Jennifer Dulos wouldn’t bother her. And the beauty of it all, for Dulos and MT, is that it was bought and paid for with Farber money, not Dulos money.
 
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The way Bowman described the meeting with the Dr I agree was a bit muddled. But, it sounded like MT was at the Dr's office at the time LE was seeking to find and arrest her. Bowman made clear that he wouldn't share the location until he arrived at the Dr Office and so I do wonder if the session was completed? Bowman didn't close the loop on the entire report. But, I do find it fascinating that Bowman wanted a professional to do an evaluation of MT.
IMO, to MT the value of introducing the neuropsychological exam into her habeas action is that Bowman requested that someone who spoke Spanish be involved in administering it. She was very smiley when Bowman was asked about it.
 
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"Neuropsychologist," not forensic psychologist. Possibly to test her memory in general?
Thanks for correction. Yes, he mentioned in his testimony that he was curious about her belief that Fotis Dulos did not commit the murder.
 
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IMO, to MT the value of introducing the neuropsychological exam into her habeas action is that Bowman requested that someone who spoke Spanish be involved in administering it. She was very smiley when Bowman was asked about it.
I do wonder if the results would put a smile on her face?
 
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I do wonder if the results would put a smile on her face?
In the videos of her interviews with LE I don't recall her ever saying she didn't understand the question. I remember when she said she thought some bloodied material was spilled coffee and they asked her if it smelled like coffee, and she said she didn't smell it. Detective asked something like, "It didn't smell like coffee?" And she said she didn't smell it, illustrating by putting her hands close to her face. Showing that she meant she didn't hold it close enough to her nose to sniff at it.
 
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IMO, to MT the value of introducing the neuropsychological exam into her habeas action is that Bowman requested that someone who spoke Spanish be involved in administering it. She was very smiley when Bowman was asked about it.

Yes. AB couldn't fathom why MT wouldn't save herself and let FD sink. I think he thought she was under such coercive coercive control, she was maybe afraid to be truthful. Because he believed her (a good faith error in his judgment), he wanted an explanation. Not that he thought of it as a full-blown defense, but perhaps her was thinking battered wife syndrome, to explain her absolute allegiance.

That was the problem. MT was not a battered woman, certainly not a wife. And she wasn't loyal to FD. Her allegiance was to herself.

I think these things are true:

MT was fed up. She moved for FD and his promises were starting to feel empty. Instead of this dramatic lifestyle, she had to vacate every time he has the children over. Like a second class citizen. NO ONE second classes MT.

MT didn't want to wait for visitation to resolve.

MT believed in the conspiracy. I think FD did convince her that he could disappear JFd and everyone would think she disappeared herself, to lick her psychological wounds. As if. But remember PatrickFrazee, after his arrest, saying he didn't think people would care that much. Did not expect publicity. Didn't expect an investigation either apparently.

And even LE would come sniffing around FD, he'd present his alibi. His phone would back it up. His friend in Greece, MT and KW would back it. He'd have been gone a few hours, tops. No sign of JFd, just her empty vehicle. Welp.

FD would collect the children, and their trust funds, and the divorce headaches would be gone for good.

That's what MT was faithful. She wants badly now for people to be satisfied she knew nothing because she just keeps saying so.

She wanted JFd GONE. Not just divorced. GONE. She didn't want visitation.
Didn't want find support. Two years of TORTURE she claimed. (What about the torture she and FD INFLICTED?????)

Frankly I think she thought it was brilliant. JFd would be blamed for her own disappearance. FD would be flush with money. She'd no longer be the mistress but the Mrs. Look, Daddy, I snagged a rich one.

As she vacillates still between FD had no motive and she used her because she loved him too much, she still hasn't provided a word of new evidence to suggest she was an accidental accessory. They would LEAD with it if they had it. Lengthy, lengthy motions that use all the words say day nothing.

The report won't help her. Even if it recommended, which if didn't (it wasn't ratified) FD get FULL custody, he still had motive. He wasn't moved by divorce. He wasn't moved by custody. IMO his motive was MONEY. 5 moneys. And expediency. DYI divorce settlement where he'd magically awarded everything. And overnight, no less.

Murder's Eve Dinner. Oh, hell, that was her happy dance. She would never be kicked out of 4 JC because of JFd again. She was irritated with FD who double booked the guest list because she wasn't in hostess mode. Probably couldn't wait to get her indoor bonfire going. To this day, I think the very next day she burned all of FD's divorce papers.

AB didn't realize see was a stone cold liar, that she was not under FD's thumb, FD was under MT's thumb, and MT wasn't confused, coerced, coopted. She was an engineer.

JMO
 
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I'm just thinking out loud here but I thought the forensic expert made some good points. He pointed out that MT's first interview was a disaster and it was clear that LE did not believe her. We know this because LE stated so. At that point, shouldn't there be a red flag going off in Bowman's head that his client is a liar (and that she has criminal liablity cause why else would she lie) and that he should put a stop to these interviews. Bowman said himself that he went back for the 2nd and 3rd interviews to clean up the mess from the previous interviews. He was hoping to put the tooth paste back in the tube. Why is Bowman so surprised that his client is a lying liar? He's an experienced defense attorney, which means most of his clients are liars. Surely, this is not the first time a client has said to him 'I have nothing to do with this I'm innocent' only for him to find out later that he was lied to.

Bowman did not say that MT INSISTED that she continue the interviews. My sense was that he was fully on board with interviews #2 and #3.

Was Bowman being an old school gentleman and couldn't fathom the innocent acting "lady" was conniving to help Fotis? I'm sure she put on a good show for him - she can't help herself.

Even if the judge finds Bowman should not have led his client to the slaughter house the 2nd and 3rd times, I still don't see how this overturns the conviction. The defendant lied to her attorney. How can she come to court now and say I lied to my own lawyer, which led him to allow me to be interviewed but he should've known better anyway??? This is crazy town if the conviction gets overturned over this.

JMO
 
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I'm just thinking out loud here but I thought the forensic expert made some good points. He pointed out that MT's first interview was a disaster and it was clear that LE did not believe her. We know this because LE stated so. At that point, shouldn't there be a red flag going off in Bowman's head that his client is a liar (and that she has criminal liablity cause why else would she lie) and that he should put a stop to these interviews. Bowman said himself that he went back for the 2nd and 3rd interviews to clean up the mess from the previous interviews. He was hoping to put the tooth paste back in the tube. Why is Bowman so surprised that his client is a lying liar? He's an experienced defense attorney, which means most of his clients are liars. Surely, this is not the first time a client has said to him 'I have nothing to do with this I'm innocent' only for him to find out later that he was lied to.

Bowman did not say that MT INSISTED that she continue the interviews. My sense was that he was fully on board with interviews #2 and #3.

Was Bowman being an old school gentleman and couldn't fathom the innocent acting "lady" was conniving to help Fotis? I'm sure she put on a good show for him - she can't help herself.

Even if the judge finds Bowman should not have led his client to the slaughter house the 2nd and 3rd times, I still don't see how this overturns the conviction. The defendant lied to her attorney. How can she come to court now and say I lied to my own lawyer, which led him to allow me to be interviewed but he should've known better anyway??? This is crazy town if the conviction gets overturned over this.

JMO
Good point. The courts will be flooded with hearings if this is the new standard. Untruthful convicted felons. Oh, boy.
 
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I'm just thinking out loud here but I thought the forensic expert made some good points. He pointed out that MT's first interview was a disaster and it was clear that LE did not believe her. We know this because LE stated so. At that point, shouldn't there be a red flag going off in Bowman's head that his client is a liar (and that she has criminal liablity cause why else would she lie) and that he should put a stop to these interviews. Bowman said himself that he went back for the 2nd and 3rd interviews to clean up the mess from the previous interviews. He was hoping to put the tooth paste back in the tube. Why is Bowman so surprised that his client is a lying liar? He's an experienced defense attorney, which means most of his clients are liars. Surely, this is not the first time a client has said to him 'I have nothing to do with this I'm innocent' only for him to find out later that he was lied to.

Bowman did not say that MT INSISTED that she continue the interviews. My sense was that he was fully on board with interviews #2 and #3.

Was Bowman being an old school gentleman and couldn't fathom the innocent acting "lady" was conniving to help Fotis? I'm sure she put on a good show for him - she can't help herself.

Even if the judge finds Bowman should not have led his client to the slaughter house the 2nd and 3rd times, I still don't see how this overturns the conviction. The defendant lied to her attorney. How can she come to court now and say I lied to my own lawyer, which led him to allow me to be interviewed but he should've known better anyway??? This is crazy town if the conviction gets overturned over this.

JMO

Here's why IMO

He believed her.

He believed Colangelo.

He believed that it was in MT's best interest to roll on FD.

It seemed to be working, though it was like pulling teeth.

He was genuinely mystified for why she was sinking herself to protect him and I think he wanted to know how to break that open. Was she not understanding, why was she protecting him, knowing she's be arrested. Plus the expectation was that JFd would be found and that might cancel out MT best-interest bet to cooperate.

Then remember, MT tells them about the place where they've biked, suggesting it's where JFd is.

I think AB believed Colangelo was good for his word, when MT handed them FD, they'd cut her a deal. Gentleman's agreement.

Despite what last week's lawyer said, I bet defense attorneys and DAs do that dance all the time. We have something that could help our client. DA wants to know the quality/nature of it before they make any promises.

What AB missed is how enmeshed MT was. She was the driver. The impetus. And she was not clever enough AND COULD NOT give LE enough to get FD while working around her part. Couldn't because FD would have rolled on her. FD didn't use MT. MT used FD to do her dirty work.

But so much if this is known only from hindsight. Had AB gotten a KrystalKenny deal for AB, he'd be recognized for brokering her a sweet deal. Low time, no time. And she would have come away looking like FD threatened her and she was fearful. Or something.

It remains a fact that we don't know what all MT did. "I wasn't cleaning Jennifer." Oh? Are you sure? Two ponchos suggest otherwise....

By Interviews 2 and 3, MT was starting to make concessions. Maybe she didn't SEE FD that morning. And then that search... that looks quite cooperative. Except it wasn't.

Should be have advised her to say nothing at all? And let her get arrested and charged? Or was it his obligation, IF SHE WAS GOING TO TELL THE TRUTH to tell LE what she knows. Before that door closed.

It was a calculated strategy. In good faith.

JMO
 

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