Silver Alert CT- Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 #10 *ARRESTS*

[enelram]

Have we ever heard whether JD and FD hired a mediator?

It's well known that mediation is a far better route than going into court.

Of course, it would have required that both parties be upfront about their financials and I suppose FD wasn't going there.....too much to lose.

I doubt, knowing FD's controlling, combative personality, that he
would have ever agreed to mediation since those agreements that
I've read generally state that all parties will agree to mediator's
final suggestions. In other word FD would balk at being told what to do. He'd already invested too much "fight" and had to win.

 

[afitzy]

Do not consider it “victim blaming” to question the security situation:
It and perhaps speaks for her state of mind in evaluating, her potential assessment of risk of danger, vs level of protection needed...
Examining this could help evaluate/see security measures taken... and R/O what was perhaps present or absent...

Absolutely agree. The security present at the rental house is important to understanding what protection it offered the occupants and what information the system might have provided to LE. Don't think anyone is questioning or even speaking about the victim here at all.

 

[afitzy]

After reading the post about victim shaming regarding video security, I tried to convince myself, I was not blaming JD. I can't come up with one single thought that justifies the question without appearing to second guess JD. Knowing the answers and reasons for JDs decisions will not bring JD back, what's done can't be undone.

I am sorry for any offense I caused.

Discussion of personal security of victim happens on WS whether it be in the car or in the house all the time and I don't believe any here were personalizing the conversation to the victim in this case. The focus of the inquiry into possible GPS data in the Suburban via OnStar and then the house security system reports was to better understand what info LE possibly has in its possession to figure out what happened to JD. No victim shaming here IMO.

 

[spaz1959]

Totally agree with this point. Why is Pattis permitted to taint the pool in a very small state and the judge does zero to silence the situation? Also, why has the States Atty not filed to gag Pattis? Judges are sadly appointed in CT but the Judge that heard the last bail hearing has more on the ball than many of the judges in his peer group IMO. But I agree that something needs to be done quickly.[/QUOTE

I believe there hasn't yet been a gag order because of NP constitutional right to freedom of speech.

 

[afitzy]

Do we know for certain that each door at JD's had a different code?

I'm not sure what system JD has, But my Tsi system has the same code for every door on my home and the same code for my shop and outbuildings as well. Although I'm sure I could set them to all be different if I wanted them to be.

Also I have to enter a separate password on my system in order to change such settings

JMO

We don't have code info for JD system. We just have a picture of a security system control unit in a mudroom.

 

[oviedo]

I doubt, knowing FD's controlling, combative personality, that he
would have ever agreed to mediation since those agreements that
I've read generally state that all parties will agree to mediator's
final suggestions. In other word FD would balk at being told what to do. He'd already invested too much "fight" and had to win.

IMO you can’t have a successful mediation unless you know what you are mediating I.e. financial records (his) it’s a waste of time and very expensive - you pay the mediator and all the attorneys- it’s a useful step for sure IMO -after financial affidavits are filed- to attempt settling aspects of the litigation and avoiding trial

 

[afitzy]

IIRC the kids had a shorten school day becuz of the holiday weekend. Perhaps the first appointment was in NC and the second in NYC. It seems reasonable that becuz of the afternoon appt, it was prearranged that Nanny was picking up kids and they would all meet in NYC.

Of course, there is always the possibility of, ‘if you can’t reach me at any time, take children to my mother’s’ plan!

JD 2 appts for the day were in NYC per the Arrest Warrant...11 am and 1 pm. JD made neither appt. and friends became concerned.

 

[spaz1959]

Sorry didn't mean to infringe on your space @afitzy

 

[afitzy]

I think this is likely the same structure that Fore group Inc has as well.

I just question how many skilled tradesman were actually employed by fore group directly

It's only my opinion, but I think they subbed almost every aspect of the actual construction out to other companies

I guess my point is I think much of what Fore group was portrayed to be by FD was a huge faccade.

FD wanted to portray Fore group as some huge Multi million dollar business with multiple assets etc

When in actuality it was nothing more than some office personnel and he was selling snake oil.

These were mostly over priced homes built by using a lot of sub contractors which made it extremely difficult to give an accurate estimate of the the total cost of the purposed home to the client, While still allowing FD to hit his specific profit margin

JMO

BINGO!

 

[afitzy]

Sorry didn't mean to infringe on your space @afitzy

What do you mean?

 

[BellaVita]

I think it would mean he’s trapped her. She might go back if she cared about her daughter and feared FD would take out MT’s kid if she didn’t return. She might not realize he plans to take out MT, spin it as suicide, as a means to exonerate himself, reclaim his kids, cash in, cash in, cash in

IMO/MOO

MOO. All these posts saying MT is in danger...I don't agree. If she stays away from him, she will be fine. If she goes back, then she is in his corner and she will be fine. FD is crazy for sure but not crazy enough to add more possible murder charges.

 

[oviedo]

Absolutely agree. The security present at the rental house is important to understanding what protection it offered the occupants and what information the system might have provided to LE. Don't think anyone is questioning or even speaking about the victim here at all.

Actually way up thread it was - I’ve been around a long time second guessing a victims choices can be a slippery slope IMO - we don’t have any facts about the system or lack thereof installed -

 

[oviedo]

@sillybilly or @liltexans - May we have a new thread please?
Thanks

 

[spaz1959]

What do you mean?[/QUOTE

Your above post regarding a gag order. When I responded instead of it showing my response as separate from your comment, it piggy back onto your post. Gosh I hate when it does that.

 

[spaz1959]

It did it again!ugh

 

[sds71]

Back in court tomorrow

Scheduled Court Dates as of 06/24/2019
FST-FA17-5016797-S - DULOS,JENNIFER v. DULOS,FOTIS
# Date Time Event Description Status
1 06/26/2019 9:30AM Status Conference Proceeding

 

[enelram]

NP stated in Court, that MT's attorney would not let him talk to MT and subsequently FD. This is when NP stated in open court that FD 'loves' MT.

IMO, her attorney has cut off the contact and may have told her, that was the terms for him to represent her.

I wouldn't be surprised if MT's father and mother also scolded her
and forbid her to contact FD or they would cut off their support and money to atty. and bail money. More likely parents who are footing his bill, imo.

 

[afitzy]

I had thought along similar lines regarding her status vs. his financial status. He made money apparently (at least until he didn't) - but wouldn't disclose over that 2 year period based on the reported court filings so why? Was he hiding income so he wouldn't have to pay ? or Was he not making income and saving face? or were his financial records a real mess for the company? If his business did take a downturn (and I think it is more that the ponzi scheme caught up with him and he wasn't selling the houses so he either couldn't or chose not to pay back his investor - JD's dad), it would be in his interest to tell the court and that would be taken into account regarding the financial settlement. It seems the Judge did decide about custody limiting him to supervised Sat/Sun (no overnight) and Wed visits. So why drag it out? JMO

Agree with your question here completely. Been thinking about this alot as it seems logicial that he would have just settled for child support, share custody and alimony/other support rather than dragging this case on for 2 years as the less financially secure party in the divorce. Only thing I can come up with is that he had a fixed mindset about the definition of 'winning' and that his definition of 'winning' seemed to somehow encompass punishment and pain for JD as he knew what she cared most about in the world was her children. I also am convinced that FD spent the year before the divorce putting the structure in place to 'loot' Fore Group but then needed extra time to essentially hollow it out financially. My other suspicion is that MT as Manager might just know a bit about some of the games that were used to siphon off fund from Fore. We will see eventually what was done and how much is actually left of Fore.

 

[BellaVita]

I doubt, knowing FD's controlling, combative personality, that he
would have ever agreed to mediation since those agreements that
I've read generally state that all parties will agree to mediator's
final suggestions. In other word FD would balk at being told what to do. He'd already invested too much "fight" and had to win.

I guess it would depend on the state. IME, if you can't get an agreement, then it goes to trial and that's where the big money is spent. And you never know what a judge will do, so better to make an agreement. JD attorney should have fast tracked this case as much as possible and forgot about things like health insurance. Focus on the kids and just get it done. But 2 years of court time...the gift that keeps on giving for a lawyer.

 

[enelram]

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Thanks for post....I agree....NP said he was advising them not to meet or talk...I didn't think there was a court order either, but doubt she's cooperating, however.

NP realizes they MUST get MT back onto their side. She's the
only hope for FD's numerous alibi's. Her coming back into the fold
of FD would make NP's life so much easier. Right now NP and FD
are hanging in the wind without wings.
As I said earlier I don't buy this stuff about "love" and all. Remember she appeared to be assisting in the Farmington backyard. Her atty. won't communicate w/ NP, so NP's trying to
go through the back door cause, you know, women are so weak and
emotional and all. GAG.