Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 #12 *ARRESTS*

[Tink56]

Thank you for the correction.

The parking pass was mentioned in a thread early on and since it has been some years since I visited the park, I took the statement at face value.

So, if her car could be Legally parked at Waveny, then JD would have parked IN Waveny and not on the street, IF she went for a run.

As busy as Lapham is, especially around school hours, I would never leave my car on the side of the road, when I could pull into the parking area of the park.

FD would not have approached JD on Lapham, in a Public area on a road with 3 schools in the Immediate Vicinity at the beginning of the school day.

FD chose to take JD's car To Lapham at Waveny Park and leave it on the street, in case there were cameras in the park.

IMO, JD did not go to Waveny on that Friday, May 24, 2019.

JD was limited on time for her NYC appointments and would have gotten ready and left her home, No Later than 9:15 am.

IMO, FD Definitely attacked on JD's return from school drop off.

FD's Visitation with the children on that Wednesday at JD's Welles Lane home, was all he needed to finalize his plans to attack At her home in NC and at the Only time he could reasonably determine that she would be back at her home, Immediately after the school drop.

People are creatures of habit.

I am sure JD's attention each school day, was fully on getting the children up and out the door for school and then she returns after the school drop off to get Herself ready for the day.

IMO, she had this same procedure when the whole family lived at 4 Jefferson Crossing.

JD would also have kept the Same schedule for the Housekeeper and the Nanny, that she did while living at JC.

IMO, JD's Habits were the Only aspect that FD could Reasonably Anticipate and use them against her.

JD's Garage would be the Only place that FD could attack unseen, unheard, and much easier to clean up afterwards than inside the home.

The Welles Lane home is set up off the culdesac and the garage is facing away from the street.

FD has hidden JD very well and at the end of the day, FD thought he was scot free and made the mistake of the "Trash Bin Odyssey of Stupidity" on the 4 mile stretch of Albany Road in Hartford and West Hartford.

I hope Jennifer's children and family receive some peace and justice very soon.

Good thoughts CT Granny! A couple of things I've thought that differ from you include the "getting ready" part.

In JD blogs she mentions getting up at 4:30 for quiet time before the rush of the day begins. I was a mother after 35 and 40 and did the same thing. If it was a busy/work day I showered and dressed before waking the kids. We don't know if JD had a live-in nanny or not. It might depend on what time the children got up and got ready for school.

She probably dropped them at school. She may have left the garage door open when she returned as she planned to leave soon after the drop off. I am guessing that she would need to gather a few things to take with her and she would head out the door. She supposedly talked to a friend on the telephone (was this ever confirmed in MSM?) between 9 and 9:30. To account for FD travel time from the Hartford area I think he caught up with her as she was leaving for NYC. She may have been pulling out of the garage or he could have been waiting there for her.

Sometime is in my mind about FD's expectations for the weekend. He was to see or have the children on Saturday. Was he infuriated that he would need to pick them up in NY or ?? One of the kids could have sent a text to him in the morning saying they were going to Grandma's house. He might have learned the same way that JD had a morning appointment. This is all MOO but I've tried to picture scenarios that might infuriate him and cause him to act recklessly.

All of this is food for thought....I agree JD never imagined that he would be caught on video disposing of the remnants of his actions. I waiver between FD taking care of her body later that Friday night/Saturday morning in NC by placing her in a barrel with cement and putting it in a body of water. (Is there a reason none of the rivers have been mentioned.) Or, he a 3-hour window at the other home near his in the afternoon of that Friday. Just thinking out loud....

I'm comfortable right now with LE taking their time. FD is on the ropes until the August hearing, but NP would really like to speed that up. Hope there's enough time to put together an airtight case without a body or through some miracle the body is found. I , too, am so sorry for those kiddos....and the rest of JD's family and friends. UGH! Anger, hate, revenge, and greed are such destructive emotions.

 

[MemPat]

Of course he HAS to put out his reflections now. So the jury pool can feel sorry for him. Should have kept this to himself. I am sorry for his bad childhood but that doesn’t mean he can victim shame and lie . You know what. My father was an alcoholic and a mean drunk. Not going into details but I became a Social worker to help people. There’s a professional way to defend people which is not NP way.

Yeah, Bulldog. my father made a fine art of bigamy and I had to get a knife to make him drop his knife from my mother's neck at age 15. My career was running a cancer support center.

NP is so full of malarkey and I believe absolutely nothing he says, especially this latest fairy tale.

 

[HopeForTheBest]

Maybe the owner is not allowed to do anything at the property because it has been designated as a crime scene by LE?

In a way, with apologies to any neighbors who don’t want to see it, it feels symbolically appropriate: Look what someone’s evil has created of what was once a home with a devoted mom and her kids. Just moo.

 

[MemPat]

I never thought of it before but if blood did spatter onto the ceiling (and the thought is so terrible), perhaps it later came down onto the floor. I wondered about under the car like the undercarriage or items in the garage.

It makes me even happier to think there was a wide spray of blood across the ceiling that couldn't be seen by FD's naked eye. That will tell LE what type weapon he used.

 

[spaz1959]

In reading about FD somewhere, it said that he had scheduled an appointment with the Greek Consulate Did FD ever go to this appt.?

 

[spaz1959]

Just reading about Colonial Tanning, and it's process. The tanners used as vats, hollowed out logs, or ponds, lakes or body of water. Hmm.

 

[Bulldogs2]

Great suggestion on using the train tracks as a potential path between the park and her home - in either direction!

Poison Ivy

 

[HopeForTheBest]

Also heartbreaking to think that this is only their family history since June 2017. I can't even imagine what it must have been like for a mom and 5 children + nanny to flee from a familial home two years ago with only the contents that could fit in one car to begin a new life in a new home in a new town. How much must have been necessarily left behind and how heart wrenching it must have been to pack up and try to prioritize, even more so if trying to be discrete and not raise suspicion.

I hesitate sharing this but am because it is a testament to what you wrote here. I can tell you from my own life as a child that such an experience is terrifying then (what if you’re caught?) not least because you know exactly why you have to do it that way and even so, you still can’t believe your own father is the cause since fathers are supposed to love us. And the worst is that your worst fear is what he’ll do to your mother—the person who has protected you through so much and is trying to protect you by doing this—if he finds you. And that thought terrifies you to your core always from then on because you KNOW what could happen. I’m not a person who cries much at all but I can’t think of this part of it for those kids—and we went through it several times at different ages and I still remember how it was, every time—without feeling such sadness for them. We too hid out in relatives’ homes and we lived in fear. And the worst never happened to us as it has for these poor kids. I cannot bear the thought of them possibly ever having to live with their father again. Even if he didn’t kill JD—and I absolutely have no doubt that he did—, she and those kids left the way they did out of mortal fear because of him. It’s not a fun experience and as a kid, you ARE stuck trying to decide what to take of your favorite things. I hope this is helpful because I really don’t like discussing it and I truly will be glad if a moderator decides it’s an unhelpful anecdotal post. I felt an obligation. Now I better get back to what I’m working on; thank you all for trying for these and others in need.

 

[Tink56]

I hesitate sharing this but am because it is a testament to what you wrote here. I can tell you from my own life as a child that such an experience is terrifying then (what if you’re caught?) not least because you know exactly why you have to do it that way and even so, you still can’t believe your own father is the cause since fathers are supposed to love us. And the worst is that your worst fear is what he’ll do to your mother—the person who has protected you through so much and is trying to protect you by doing this—if he finds you. And that thought terrifies you to your core always from then on because you KNOW what could happen. I’m not a person who cries much at all but I can’t think of this part of it for those kids—and we went through it several times at different ages and I still remember how it was, every time—without feeling such sadness for them. We too hid out in relatives’ homes and we lived in fear. And the worst never happened to us as it has for these poor kids. I cannot bear the thought of them possibly ever having to live with their father again. Even if he didn’t kill JD—and I absolutely have no doubt that he did—, she and those kids left the way they did out of mortal fear because of him. It’s not a fun experience and as a kid, you ARE stuck trying to decide what to take of your favorite things. I hope this is helpful because I really don’t like discussing it and I truly will be glad if a moderator decides it’s an unhelpful anecdotal post. I felt an obligation. Now I better get back to what I’m working on; thank you all for trying for these and others in need.

So brave of you to share...am sure it's true. Thank you.

And, after many years in public education, I can confirm that the children of angry divorces often become angry kids, sometimes angriest with their parents.

 

[Bulldogs2]

Much in this article about how the children are doing/coping and what they are being told...all from JD's family and friend's loving support and advice from professionals.

https://nypost.com/2019/06/29/jennifer-dulos-family-is-sheltering-her-kids-from-news-coverage/

Thank you

 

[MemPat]

I hesitate sharing this but am because it is a testament to what you wrote here. I can tell you from my own life as a child that such an experience is terrifying then (what if you’re caught?) not least because you know exactly why you have to do it that way and even so, you still can’t believe your own father is the cause since fathers are supposed to love us. And the worst is that your worst fear is what he’ll do to your mother—the person who has protected you through so much and is trying to protect you by doing this—if he finds you. And that thought terrifies you to your core always from then on because you KNOW what could happen. I’m not a person who cries much at all but I can’t think of this part of it for those kids—and we went through it several times at different ages and I still remember how it was, every time—without feeling such sadness for them. We too hid out in relatives’ homes and we lived in fear. And the worst never happened to us as it has for these poor kids. I cannot bear the thought of them possibly ever having to live with their father again. Even if he didn’t kill JD—and I absolutely have no doubt that he did—, she and those kids left the way they did out of mortal fear because of him. It’s not a fun experience and as a kid, you ARE stuck trying to decide what to take of your favorite things. I hope this is helpful because I really don’t like discussing it and I truly will be glad if a moderator decides it’s an unhelpful anecdotal post. I felt an obligation. Now I better get back to what I’m working on; thank you all for trying for these and others in need.

Hope, I feel your pain. We rode around all night for many nights afraid to go home but my amazingly brave mother sang show tunes and entertained us. I imagine Jennifer did something similar for her children and they probably have some amazing survival skills that are seeing them through these hard days. I pray that is so. And I pray for the frightened girl inside you, my friend.

 

[Jmoose]

I found NP's life history pretty heart wrenching. It's amazing that he rose above it and is as accomplished as he is. He's well educated, smart , authored several books etc. which explains why he has become a street fighter. I don't want to bash him anymore. He has a wife and children. Hoping I can abide by that in the coming days. .
That being said , he talks about being 8 years old and being bullied and how he felt.

How can he not relate to how FD's children feel?

Is it because he thinks they have led a privileged life?
In comparison to NP it was quite privileged , IMO.

What he needs to consider is that it was all smoke and mirrors.

But he can't. The life of a criminal defense attorney.

Gotta be lonely.

Lots of us had bad upbringings, have been bullied, have been poor at the worst possible times in our lives. His childhood wasn’t worse than mine, even in the unlikely event that he didn’t embellish it. Not all, or even many of us, grew up to be people who turned around and bullied others (I include JD’s treatment at pressers), or practiced our professions in a dishonest way (his lies). I have no beef with a defence attorney defending someone like FD; that’s his job, after all. I object to him using a subpar childhood as an explanation/excuse for it. He does it because he enjoys it.

 

[Jmoose]

If it is true that JD’s bloody garments were in the garbage bags, can anyone think of a body disposal scenario where the clothing would need to be dumped separately from the body?

To humiliate JD

 

[Bulldogs2]

Voice of experience with a psychiatrist sister speaking here: Lots of people get into the mental health field because they're looking for answers to their own issues.

MT's mom might not be a reliable source of advice about a child's welfare.

MT mother may have well told her daughter what she thought about the scenario BUT... it is MT that makes decisions. She is an adult and we can’t hold her mother accountable for her decisions as an adult.

 

[CarefullyTaught]

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I'm not surprised, the hate is real!!!!!

ITA!! I bet the reason FD told NP that JD had written a GG type novel is that FD never bothered to even read JD’s novel. FD probably assumed everyone would believe what FD said about JD and her work.

FD was likely surprised to learn how quickly so many of JD’s friends and family stepped forward to call b.s. on NP’s GG novel claim.

FD is just only into FD. Doesn’t that beat all? I don’t even know what I should be surprised about this, but I am.

The creep has five kids with her, went to undergrad with her, micromanaged her, summoned and dismissed and controlled her, made a human cash register out of her, claimed to have loved her, but never even bothered to read her novel.

What a jerk.

 

[Bulldogs2]

rsbm
I think he has a mental illness. Something in his brain is not wired correctly. I don't believe that a healthy mind could choose to be so mean especially when it functions so well in other areas. That doesn't mean I'm letting him off the hook. Some illnesses, physical or mental can't be fixed. Not yet anyways. And yes, it's far from fair.

It’s called a personality disorder in professional terms. Sociopathic personality disorder and narcissistic personality disorder. The latter referring to one who thinks themselves the center of the universe and controls everything to try to make it that way...the former referring to a person who likely had a conduct disorder in adolescence and whose personality has morphed into an unempathetic but charming and angry lawbreaker with no conscience bent on getting his way. I think these two fit him beautifully.

 

[Bulldogs2]

Yeah, Bulldog. my father made a fine art of bigamy and I had to get a knife to make him drop his knife from my mother's neck at age 15. My career was running a cancer support center.

NP is so full of malarkey and I believe absolutely nothing he says, especially this latest fairy tale.

NP is using his own adverse childhood for gain. Using the victim excuse.

 

[Hazelnutty]

NP is using his own adverse childhood for gain. Using the victim excuse.

I agree.
What a smarmy man. A rough childhood is no excuse for what he has turned out to be .

 

[indicolite22]

Sometime is in my mind about FD's expectations for the weekend. He was to see or have the children on Saturday. Was he infuriated that he would need to pick them up in NY or ?? One of the kids could have sent a text to him in the morning saying they were going to Grandma's house. He might have learned the same way that JD had a morning appointment. This is all MOO but I've tried to picture scenarios that might infuriate him and cause him to act recklessly.

I don't think something set him off about that day or the weekend. Think about the doctored plates and the truck switch. His problems had been mounting and he blamed JD. IMO he had murder as a solution on his mind for a while and spent time planning it.

 

[indicolite22]

I think it was Gitana that posted early on that she could get as little as 5 years or less. None of that sat well with me at the time. I thought she was all in because of the Albany Ave. venture. And, I still feel that way. But, maybe Gitana is right? If they need her to nail him?

I keep comparing MT's situation to Krystal Kenney's from the Kelsey Berreth case. If MT "only" took part in the evidence dumping and was not nearly as involved/knowledgeable as KK was in/about KB's demise, then I'm not surprised that she could be getting off lightly. Of course the difference here could probably also lie in the level of cooperation with LE. She can't be punished for not revealing what she doesn't know.