Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 #12 *ARRESTS*

[MemPat]

Thing is though that there were 30 stops on Albany ride of stupidity but NOT necessarily 30 bags. We don't know how many bags FD and MT had in the truck as just because they stopped 30 times doesn't mean they were disposing of 30 bags...they could have been spreading the material they had in however many bags they had over the 30 stops.

I'm pretty convinced lots of those garbage cans were so full FD just closed each lid and tried the next until all their bags were gone. We're never going to know how many actual bags there were. MOO

 

[HopeForTheBest]

We call that flat affect in the biz. Personally I think he will crack at some point

Yes! Flat affect!

 

[Love Never Fails]

Estranged ex-husband charged in case of missing Connecticut mom Jennifer Dulos speaks out in his defense
3 minute video with a criminal attorney who said speaking out via media wasn't a good move. FWIW

Good for LE anyway. His narcissism showed through.

 

[SuperTmo]

We had one in our hospital that the psychiatrist and I evaluated today- a sociopath. Good looking, charming and a liar

Yep. My ex is diagnosed with antisocial personality disorders and ticks most of the boxes for psychopath and sociopath. Charming, funny, handsome. Also a liar, but being a liar is the least concerning of his signs! He just is so... flat. He doesn’t seem to connect to anyone or anything on a meaningful level. Blank dead eyes and no reaction to anything until it’s sudden explosive anger. These people are so scary.

 

[clearskies1]

“I know what I did, and I know what I didn’t do”

I’m interested in the seeming disconnect in how FD was smooth in some aspects of the crime (no camera documentation of him at the scene, no body) yet sloppy in others (DNA mixed with her blood in the kitchen, bloody trash bag dump, doctored license plates dump).

This disconnect in styles makes me ask if we are talking about two different people.

Did FD hire a hit and FDs job was cleanup. (Either planned or by necessity given quickness of the silver alert.)

I didn’t imagine a hit because FD had such a personal score to settle IMO. Starting with:

JD lying to FD’s face and fleeing with the kids.
JD rejecting order to all live together.
JD and parents controlling the purse strings.

And FD’s episodes of rage and control - IMO always against other people Such as:

Trapping JD in a room and not letting her leave.
Forcing kids to water ski against their will for hours on end.
Sickening revenge fantasies.
The parking attendant!

All that makes me thing he would not relinquish the pleasure of killing JD himself.

But these style differences (smooth and clumsy) ... maybe he’s first and foremost a playboy who farms out the dirty work and just got stuck with the cleanup because of how fast the alert came out,

And maybe the cleanup was sloppy with the phones on etc because FD and MT were celebrating and high. Whether MT was told the real reason for the celebration or not.

The issue with a hired hit is that FD's DNA was found on her kitchen faucet. JMO.

 

[sunshinegirl2013]

Sorry. Yes. Absolutely someone can steal your joy. Your suggestion to "show up at a homeless shelter" to heal trauma is misguided to say the least. You have zero clue what you are talking about.

I respectfully disagree with you. She suggested getting a therapist as a first step which is correct. In addition to therapy/medication, volunteering is also appropriate - helping others often helps trauma patients further their healing. Other activities such as music/art/gardening/meditation/writing/photography (creative pursuits) are also helpful when healing from trauma. You meet people where they are so she may/may not be ready for this (or maybe she's ready for volunteering but not therapy yet) but overall, it's an excellent suggestion IMO.

 

[BluesClues0]

Why search bodies of water? Because as you said, his wife COULD BE in pieces. She also could NOT be in pieces. Clearly, she has not been found yet, so why would you exclude large areas of searches based solely on what COULD be? Also, she could be in pieces and still be in water. I want JD to be found, and hope, and believe, that LE will leave no stone unturned in their efforts to that end. JMO

That, and although for some reason early on I thought dismemberment, but now I feel that there is nothing we know to really even suggest dismemberment. We get distracted with the 30 bags of garbage. We think, oh my, there's pieces in every bag. But that was never stated. All LE has said is rags and sponges. That might mean 2 rags and two sponges. That might be all they found. I believe this isn't the first time he's done it as part of his construction business. We already figure he was tight for cash. It would probably cost him $200 to have 30 bags of construction debris picked up. 29.9 of them are actual construction debris. 0.1 of them are 2 rags and 2 sponges. And MT probably went with him on previous dumps. That's why she thought nothing of it. I wouldn't be surprised if the license plate was one he used before. I can't explain why he dumped it though. Maybe he thought he didn't need it anymore. Doesn't make sense. He was probably more worried about getting fined for dumping trash than he was for covering up a murder. He probably even thought it was a great way to get rid of the rag/sponge.

Still leaves the question of the body. I'm still a maybe on a hit man. If he did hire a hit man, his greek connections would have helped greatly. I also believe they would know how to loose a body so it will never be found.

And the more I think about it, the more I talk myself into it. Why would you do something like that yourself if you have the resources to have it done professionally. That sounds odd, but he knows. His job at Fore was paying people to do things. I wouldn't be surprised if he has contacts that could take care of this for him. I think his trips to Greece would make it very easy to set that all up. If you want something done right and you have the means to do it right, you'd hire a professional.

The one screw up, and it might be the only screw up is that there was a mess to clean. He probably thought he did a good job of cleaning.

I really think he could have pulled this off were it not for the mess. I bet he's surprised they could detect anything. We don't really know how much blood they saw. There's some report that it was a lot. I don't know if I buy that. It would also lean to more amatuerish. Someone who knows what they're doing would not leave a mess. Very odd.

 

[Alwaystyping]

Jennifer Dulos case: New Canaan police chief expects more charges filed

NEW CANAAN — The town’s police chief says he can “foresee” more charges filed in the disappearance of Jennifer Dulos.

“I foresee additional charges in the future,” New Canaan Police Chief Leon Krolikowski told CNN’s Headline News. “That’s what I can commit to. I can commit to two things: We’re not going to rest until we find Jennifer, and anyone involved in her disappearance will be brought to justice.”

He can “fore-see” charges against the FORE Group...

 

[Bulldogs2]

Town of Farmington GIS - ArcGIS Server Parcel Application
This is the best map I can find showing 4 Jefferson Crossing and all of the Farmington Foregroup properties. I don't have a list of the property addresses, but 80 Mountain Spring is also visible. You can zoom in and out, but the best thing about this map is if you go to the upper right hand corner under "Map Layers" and click on "2016 Color Ariel" you get a wonderful winter non-vegetated view.
Notice the Jeff Xing back yard and it's VERY close proximity to ~vast~ wilderness? That, my friends, is the approx 3k acres of the West Hartford Reservoir. It is open to public hiking, and the Metacomet Trail also passes close to his house. If you click on "Trails" under "Map Layers" I believe it will place a green line for the Metacomet. The reservoir property is not included for the most part on this map because it's mostly not in Farmington.
View attachment 191934 *Here is a map for the West Hartford Reservoir. I have put a red dot on the location of the 4 Jefferson Crossing property, next to the path that forms a sideways "U" right above the words Kilkenny Rock. Below I will zoom in on the area in another pic from the Farmington GIS link.
View attachment 191935 *I put another red dot at the Jeff Xing address. The green line here is the powerline, the red line is the U-shaped path, and the blue line is Metacomet Trail.

Yes I have always thought he may ha e done something with her in that woods near the reservoir.

 

[Alwaystyping]

The issue with a hired hit is that FD's DNA was found on her kitchen faucet. JMO.

Not if FDs job was cleanup.
Hitman - no trace.
FD - sloppy throughout.
Hence my thinking - two styles, two people.

 

[afitzy]

Believe this location to be a good idea. Was there a few weeks ago trying to avoid traffic and its like stepping into another world when many roads in the area weren't paved!

 

[clearskies1]

Not if FDs job was cleanup.
Hitman - no trace.
FD - sloppy throughout.
Hence my thinking - two styles, two people.

True, but the main purpose of hiring a hit man is you're not at the crime scene.

 

[Love Never Fails]

“I know what I did, and I know what I didn’t do”

I’m interested in the seeming disconnect in how FD was smooth in some aspects of the crime (no camera documentation of him at the scene, no body) yet sloppy in others (DNA mixed with her blood in the kitchen, bloody trash bag dump, doctored license plates dump).

This disconnect in styles makes me ask if we are talking about two different people.

Did FD hire a hit and FDs job was cleanup. (Either planned or by necessity given quickness of the silver alert.)

I didn’t imagine a hit because FD had such a personal score to settle IMO. Starting with:

JD lying to FD’s face and fleeing with the kids.
JD rejecting order to all live together.
JD and parents controlling the purse strings.

And FD’s episodes of rage and control - IMO always against other people Such as:

Trapping JD in a room and not letting her leave.
Forcing kids to water ski against their will for hours on end.
Sickening revenge fantasies.
The parking attendant!

All that makes me thing he would not relinquish the pleasure of killing JD himself.

But these style differences (smooth and clumsy) ... maybe he’s first and foremost a playboy who farms out the dirty work and just got stuck with the cleanup because of how fast the alert came out,

And maybe the cleanup was sloppy with the phones on etc because FD and MT were celebrating and high. Whether MT was told the real reason for the celebration or not.

Professional killers usually don’t leave a mess to clean up, nor do they hide a body. Or so I have read. Why would anyone want to depend on FD cleaning up the mess? Does not sound like a professional hit to me. Sounds like rage.

IMO, MT knows the details. I think she should be very afraid.

 

[Alwaystyping]

True, but the main purpose of hiring a hit man is you're not at the crime scene.

Perhaps he wasn’t supposed to do cleanup, but he was stuck with cleanup, because of how quick the alert came out.

 

[afitzy]

Was just looking at NCPD instagram and was a bit surprised at the language in their latest post:

New Canaan Police Department on Instagram: “We will bring to justice all those involved in your disappearance *link in bio* #newcanaanpolice #townofnewcanaan @ct_state_police #themis”

NCPD: We will bring to justice all those involved in your disappearance

Does it seem like they are sending a very specific message here!?!?!?!?!

 

[NWLady]

Yes, you are referring to the same house in all three instances.

A like wasn't enough - thank you @Rosiebones

 

[Bulldogs2]

Yep. My ex is diagnosed with antisocial personality disorders and ticks most of the boxes for psychopath and sociopath. Charming, funny, handsome. Also a liar, but being a liar is the least concerning of his signs! He just is so... flat. He doesn’t seem to connect to anyone or anything on a meaningful level. Blank dead eyes and no reaction to anything until it’s sudden explosive anger. These people are so scary.

That’s why I think he’s going to crack at some point. Perhaps in the courtroom- I mean get angry.

 

[clearskies1]

Perhaps he wasn’t supposed to do cleanup, but he was stuck with cleanup, because of how quick the alert came out.

The scene (with the cleanup) was viewed by LE either before or about the time of the Silver Alert. Clean up did not happen after the Alert.

 

[clearskies1]

Was just looking at NCPD instagram and was a bit surprised at the language in their latest post:

New Canaan Police Department on Instagram: “We will bring to justice all those involved in your disappearance *link in bio* #newcanaanpolice #townofnewcanaan @ct_state_police #themis”

NCPD: We will bring to justice all those involved in your disappearance

Does it seem like they are sending a very specific message here!?!?!?!?!

YES!!! Good Catch!

 

[afitzy]

Yes! Flat affect!

Thing is that flat affect people typically explode at some point if goaded and proded and it can be a scary thing to experience. My guess is that JD was quite familiar with emotional outbursts and no doubt had some level of PTSD herself having dealt with this personality type for such a long period of time. You layer in the ongoing DV issues with the personality issues and I'm truly not sure how JD coped?

The FD affect in the interviews bothered me quite a bit and I wondered also if he is on an anti depressant which could deaden affect as a side effect? Its hard to tell also because first time interviews are rough but what has me stuck is that his affect didn't change throughout the entire interview it was almost like watching a zombie for lack of a better word.

Contrast the interview behavior with him being hararassed for an interview by Fox61 today in NC. He got a bit hot towards the end of the videoed encounter and my guess is he was phoning Pattis when he stomped off to make the phone call by the garage door. He was calm/controlled today with Fox61 as the reporter said he shook his hand when he came down the driveway to the street but he was only calm up until the point it was clear that they weren't leaving then he seemed to get a bit steamed and certainly tense and agitated. My guess is that the Fox61 did a better job of showing us FD than the highly produced/staged Channel 4 'interview' we saw yesterday. Watch both videos again and see if you agree....

Does anyone know if FD has any connections to MA that we are aware of? Truck today on Sturbridge had MA plates. So far as I know all of FD vehicles are still with LE? Any info?