Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 #15 *ARRESTS*

[Daisyeve]

It would have been nice to see MT and her mother express some regret or concern for the missing mother of five children instead of smiling and acting like they have been given the keys to the city. This is very serious MT - a mother of five children is suspected to be

July/Aug is property tax month in CT. With the FD sizable 'inventory' of houses/real estate/land he certainly is facing a huge tax bill with no 'visible' income so far as anyone can see and no MT to keep the household expenses covered (that we are aware of)! Curious how someone with a verbally stated income of "$51,000" is able to cover a semi annual tax bill of over $70,000? I'm filing this away under 'UNSOLVED MYSTERIES'!

I think he’s planning his escape before he has to disclose anything or pay anybody. If he has any money hidden away he’s using it to run. At least that’s probably what he’s thinking about all the time. (MOO)

 

[afitzy]

What’s significant?
She had the money. It was hers before marriage. She keeps it.
Next?
He wanted the kids for the child support he was hoping to collect. He’s an unfit parent. Never mind that he’s gone 10 out of 30 days a month. She’s there every minute of every day.
Next?
Fore was in financial shambles. No value. Nothing to fight about.
Next? Aha!
The only thing needed? Forensic accounting to track potential theft/secretion of assets. Taking money by cover of secrecy.
Ok. Anything else?
I didn’t think so.

Court clerk announcement: “Next case called on the court docket is Jane Doe vs. John Doe....”
FYI. You cannot move a divorce case to criminal court. Civil includes family law. Murder goes to criminal court.

Attached please find link to CT.GOV for discussion of DV.
Domestic Violence FAQs - CT Judicial Branch

Attached please find
Connecticut Coalition Against Domestic Violence Guide to Family Violence Laws which is an excellent resource guide on the topic.
https://www.westportct.gov/home/showdocument?id=2529

CT Family Court Judges have the ability to move a divorce action to Criminal Court under certain circumstances of which DV is one of the circumstances as far as I am aware and this was discussed in a prior thread with specific links if I recall. I also believe NYS has an integrated case system that allows for coordination of DV divorce case in both Family Court and Criminal Court. Not all states have this ability to handle DV divorce cases in a special fashion.

 

[Seattle1]

Marissa Alter‏Verified account @MarissaAlter
Court hearing for Michelle Troconis hasn’t started yet. Interesting note—Norm Pattis’ law partner and their intern are both here to sit in on the hearing. Fotis Dulos isn’t back in court until August 2. @News12CT

7:06 AM - 18 Jul 2019 pst

 

[afitzy]

It would have been nice to see MT and her mother express some regret or concern for the missing mother of five children instead of smiling and acting like they have been given the keys to the city. This is very serious MT - a mother of five children is suspected to be

I think he’s planning his escape before he has to disclose anything or pay anybody. If he has any money hidden away he’s using it to run. At least that’s probably what he’s thinking about all the time. (MOO)

Agree with you that the courtroom behavior of MT and her mother leaves much to be desired as the walk to the courtroom isn't the same as going to a movie premier or major social event. The smiling and giggling routine seen from both of them at the last court hearing was IMO offensive given the occasion and disrespectful to the missing mother of 5 JD. MOO

Remember though IMO the Arrest Warrant for hindering/tampering tells us everything we ever need to know about MT. Rember that when LE was desparately trying to locate the missing JD what did MT do? MT CHOSE TO NOT COOPERATE WITH LE.

That decision to not cooperate with LE is who MT is as a person and in my mind this decision will always define her character, morals and ethics.

I believe the following quote is correct: "When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time. Maya Angelou". MT has so far in this JD case shown us over and over who she is. Her mother who was in court with MT also showed the world who she was and has a sizable legal file with the State of FL associated with that process. Is it reasonable to expect anything of these people in terms of assisting with the case or adding any value based on who/what they are?

IMO, no matter if MT does a deal with the State of CT or gets a reduced sentence for cooperation, in my mind she will forever be the mother of a 13 year girl who chose to not assist in the investigation of another mother that had 5 children and who was missing.

MT can wear all the rosaries around her neck (if you are Catholic that simply isn't done and I believe that even when Madonna did it way back in the 80s she was blasted by the Vatican and MT is NO Madonna IMO!) that it can hold but I'm not sure that even forgiveness as practiced in most Christian traditions will provide her with a way to live with herself and face her daughter to someday explain why she chose not to help the Dulos children find their mother?

Shame is a facinating topic IMO and I seriously wonder if MT feels no shame for her choices as she certainly showed no remorse or caring for missing JD with her giggling and laughing with her mother at her last court appearance IMO!
MOO

 

[Twistinginthewind]

<respectfully snipped by me for focus, BBM):

There has to be some reason that FD felt compelled to continue to build these 'white elephant' properties in Farmington when the market clearly doesn't support their size and price IMO. I hope that the forensic accountants brought in as part of the criminal investigation sort the situation out as it doesn't seem to make any business sense on the surface of things given the state of the housing market in Farmington specifically and CT in general. MOO

"Build it and they will come"? Keeping up pretenses / shell game that FD was successful as a builder, and to continue the flow of investment money as he'd had for the previous 13+ years of marriage to JD through her FIL?

Going ahead and continuing to build spec homes in that area in that price range in that failing market, perhaps rolling over mortgages, bills, taxes, loan payments, etc. to keep up appearances, was probably undetected until now, and sounds like 'the fox was guarding the henhouse'. All JMO.

 

[JillR]

If anyone has a link to the picture of MT wearing a rosary, could you please share? We knew “what she was” from the start. I immediately thought of the rhyming word for paramour, and I’ve often wondered if JD used that term b/c she thought the same. MT AND her despicable mother just showed the world who/what they are. I hope the 13 year old child gets a chance to be with the other parent (if he can provide a better life and parenting) Just imagine what this girl has seen as an example from the beginning. She and mommy dearest move in to a home that rightfully belongs to 5 other children and their mother. (The home would feel that way also, even after they vacated). And she attends their school. If that isn’t psychological warfare, I don’t know what is.

 

[Myvice]

I have to wonder if it further complicated things for JD that HG had loaned them money.

It's one thing to tell your family you're getting divorced, but I would imagine even harder to deal with owing them money at the same time.

I always thought it strange that HG stipulated that payments had to be made in person. I wonder what the reasoning behind that was.

With a husband that was likely calling JD "less than" on a daily basis, she probably felt like she failed her entire family.

So sad.

 

[Mimi in London]

If anyone has a link to the picture of MT wearing a rosary, could you please share? We knew “what she was” from the start. I immediately thought of the rhyming word for paramour, and I’ve often wondered if JD used that term b/c she thought the same. MT AND her despicable mother just showed the world who/what they are. I hope the 13 year old child gets a chance to be with the other parent (if he can provide a better life and parenting) Just imagine what this girl has seen as an example from the beginning. She and mommy dearest move in to a home that rightfully belongs to 5 other children and their mother. (The home would feel that way also, even after they vacated). And she attends their school. If that isn’t psychological warfare, I don’t know what is.

 

[Mimi in London]

I have to wonder if it further complicated things for JD that HG had loaned them money.

It's one thing to tell your family you're getting divorced, but I would imagine even harder to deal with owing them money at the same time.

I always thought it strange that HG stipulated that payments had to be made in person. I wonder what the reasoning behind that was.

With a husband that was likely calling JD "less than" on a daily basis, she probably felt like she failed her entire family.

So sad.

Good call on HF’s part, insisting on face-to-face repayments. He clearly knew a slippery snake when he saw one. He couldn’t stop his daughter marrying the slime, but at least he got to eyeball him periodically and make him squirm.

 

[BellaVita]

I have to wonder if it further complicated things for JD that HG had loaned them money.

It's one thing to tell your family you're getting divorced, but I would imagine even harder to deal with owing them money at the same time.

I always thought it strange that HG stipulated that payments had to be made in person. I wonder what the reasoning behind that was.

With a husband that was likely calling JD "less than" on a daily basis, she probably felt like she failed her entire family.

So sad.

I can't speak for JD, but usually in these cases, the sense of shame on the part of the victim can be incredible. After all, you invited this person into your life who did so much damage to you. Also, in the world of therapy, there are often very damaging messages given: you had something wrong with you to pick this kind of person, if you had been a whole person to begin with you would have known something was wrong, why did you think somebody could fall in love with you so fast? Unless a person has been through it, very hard to comprehend.

 

[bubby girl]

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thanks for posting...i thought it was interesting that when she was walking into the courthouse, her rosary necklace must have been under her shirt or in her jacket pocket, then in the courtroom was 'displayed'...wonder what mystery she was 'praying' on?

 

[enelram]

[QUOTE="afitzy, post: 15253762, member: 244231


There has to be some reason that FD felt compelled to continue to build these 'white elephant' properties in Farmington when the market clearly doesn't support their size and price IMO. I hope that the forensic accountants brought in as part of the criminal investigation sort the situation out as it doesn't seem to make any business sense on the surface of things given the state of the housing market in Farmington specifically and CT in general. MOO[/QUOTE

2 words keep coming back to describe FD.
Grandiose
Winning
Who was the movie star that used to say "Winning"? (edit- Charlie Sheen)
Anyway if you know who I mean- He was highly addicted to various substances and
his life and behaviors were out of control.

I sense some similarities in FD- his basic
personality lent itself to grandiose, over the top, attention seeking, admiration winning.

Be better, bigger, faster, collect more trophies,
achievement oriented FD.

But just as the movie star was, FD's life was running out of control.
Not an excuse, but I see similarities in people
running on artificial substances.
they fly high on drugs. They believe themselves to be undefeatable. Winning. Bigger, better, faster, more trophies, richer.
FD was in a financial trap, of his own making.
He could have and should have admitted his mistakes and moved on. Or moved south to NC. He was too slow to correct. More drugs,
more coke, bury the worries.
Coked up people are hellions to live with.
FD was on the path to self-destruct. His life
was zooming downhill. He grabbed MT to
help assuage the fall.
JD was over it. Time for her to bail.
The end.

 

[Eli9]

In my above post, the Better Business Bureau notes that Fore Group began doing business in November of 2004 and then was Incorporated in 2007.

Yes. The business name of Fore Group US LLC was reserved on Nov. 5 2004 at 9:24 am. It was filed as an organization on Nov. 16 2004 at 11:03 am.

On March 7 2007 the name was amended to Fore Group Inc. and the final dissolution of the former Fore Group US LLC happened on Dec. 8 2007.


Fore Group Inc. has not filed an annual report since Apr 19, 2017 2:43 PM. The last report was due on March 6 2018

C.O.N.C.O.R.D

 

[Eli9]

@afitzy "Winning" was Charlie Sheen.

 

[Tink56]

[QUOTE="afitzy, post: 15253762, member: 244231


There has to be some reason that FD felt compelled to continue to build these 'white elephant' properties in Farmington when the market clearly doesn't support their size and price IMO. I hope that the forensic accountants brought in as part of the criminal investigation sort the situation out as it doesn't seem to make any business sense on the surface of things given the state of the housing market in Farmington specifically and CT in general. MOO[/QUOTE

2 words keep coming back to describe FD.
Grandiose
Winning
Who was the movie star that used to say "Winning"?
Anyway if you know who I mean- He was highly addicted to various substances and
his life and behaviors were out of control.

I sense some similarities in FD- his basic
personality lent itself to grandiose, over the top, attention seeking, admiration winning.

Be better, bigger, faster, collect more trophies,
achievement oriented FD.

But just as the movie star was, FD's life was running out of control.
Not an excuse, but I see similarities in people
running on artificial substances.
they fly high on drugs. They believe themselves to be undefeatable. Winning. Bigger, better, faster, more trophies, richer.
FD was in a financial trap, of his own making.
He could have and should have admitted his mistakes and moved on. Or moved south to NC. He was too slow to correct. More drugs,
more coke, bury the worries.
Coked up people are hellions to live with.
FD was on the path to self-destruct. His life
was zooming downhill. He grabbed MT to
help assuage the fall.
JD was over it. Time for her to bail.
The end.

Your post reminded me of the extreme hubris Fotis exhibited in the April 2011 article in the Hartford Magazine. After one of the partners mentioned that their goal was to become the premier builder of high-end homes in the Northeast, FD says the following:

And, from there, the sky’s the limit according to Dulos, “If we can build on Block Island, why can’t we build on St. Bart’s? Why can’t we build something in France, or in Mykonos, Greece, or in Aspen—where we take something complex, and exciting, and make it come true.”

His dreams were larger than the U.S.....He wanted to be king of the world, or at least Athens.

 

[enelram]

Yes. The business name of Fore Group US LLC was reserved on Nov. 5 2004 at 9:24 am. It was filed as an organization on Nov. 16 2004 at 11:03 am.

On March 7 2007 the name was amended to Fore Group Inc. and the final dissolution of the former Fore Group US LLC happened on Dec. 8 2007.


Fore Group Inc. has not filed an annual report since Apr 19, 2017 2:43 PM. The last report was due on March 6 2018

C.O.N.C.O.R.D

Yes, thanks Eli- and as I mentioned earlier Fore Group is at risk of involuntarily dissolution if they don't get on the stick and
update their annual report and send it in.
Every so often the state goes in and cleans house and eleminates co.'s not filing and consider them 'inactive' and remove them
from active status.

 

[Eli9]

Yes, thanks Eli- and as I mentioned earlier Fore Group is at risk of involuntarily dissolution if they don't get on the stick and
update their annual report and send it in.
Every so often the state goes in and cleans house and eleminates co.'s not filing and consider them 'inactive' and remove them
from active status.

Would you, or anyone else, know why the CONCORD site lists the number of shares for Fore Group Inc at 20000 and the value at $0.00 per share?
Perhaps that is common that a business does not record the value of a share as it must change too often?

 

[enelram]

It would have been nice to see MT and her mother express some regret or concern for the missing mother of five children instead of smiling and acting like they have been given the keys to the city. This is very serious MT - a mother of five children is suspected to be

. (MOO)

How often do we see villains in a case "suddenly get religion" and become so pious
in public when they've acted like uncouth,
unscrupulous, sinful, immoral criminals?

Me thinks MT and momma are both crunchin'
their 'happy pills.'

 

[enelram]

Would you, or anyone else, know why the CONCORD site lists the number of shares for Fore Group Inc at 20000 and the value at $0.00 per share?
Perhaps that is common that a business does not record the value of a share as it must change too often?

IMO whoever filled out the form didn't Know what
to put in the blanks and just put 'something'.
Usually those numbers don't mean anything.

 

[Eli9]

IMO whoever filled out the form did Know what
to put in the blanks and just put 'something'.
Usually those numbers don't mean anything.

That's what I thought. Thanks.