Silver Alert CT- Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 #2

[MassGuy]

A deal much like KKK is getting...IF they tell the truth on the stand.

Yeah. I don’t see hers being nearly as sweet though.

She’s more involved, and is holding less cards.

 

[enelram]

Yes and not only that but Jennifer as a kind and vulnerable lady, was likely attracted to him in the first place because of his toughness, thinking he would be protective of her and her children. She likely never saw that he was a psychopath until it was well too late - long past the love bombing phase by her would-be loving tough guy.

Yes, and there's actually been studies done on this phenomenon-
that the weaker, more vulnerable women do hook up with the
extremely masculine aggressive men. On a spectrum neither is
in the 'normal range' rather both are the extremes.
Maybe JD was somewhat 'protected' her whole life and lived in
a safe bubble while single. And money helps.
I'll guarantee you FD's first wife is sadly nodding that she knew
he was capable of this act. these guys don't go through life
undetected, people just move away from them.

 

[btfly547]

Per one of the early articles he was trying to get them Greek passports, and the court ordered him to stop. Doesn't mean he did. Also, he didn't have to surrender his non -US passports, just his US one. So, its entirely possible he thought he was going to have them unsupervised all weekend, and leave with the kids on foreign passports (possibly via private plane or from Canada) before anyone realized JD was really missing. The nanny taking the kids to NYC foiled that plan. JMO

Maybe that's where in the affidavit why Jennifer stated that Fotis said he would take 2 of the children to Greece to never be seen again.
I just looked and seems like one parent can apply for a child age 12 and up, while 2 parents/permission is needed for ages 11 and under.

Although that affidavit was signed 2 years ago, so not totally sure any of the kids were 12 and up at that point. Maybe he had that thought in mind for when a couple of them got a little older so he could apply alone.

 

[peace9274]

It could only be that the person never loved to begin with. More people are just actors or shells than we realize.

I’ve been told the things we loved most about a person, that after a breakup... those very same things become the things we hate the most about him/her.

 

[Sconnie]

From the custody pleading posted upthread - it would appear that JD planned to be with her mom and her kids Friday the 24th. So the Nanny likely knew of this plan and drove them there (assuming JD would be at her afternoon appointment) and came back home (not sure of this but I read that the police needed permission to enter her home May 24 and her mom told the nanny to let the police in). I will go back and find this as I think this is the problem with their plan. He didn't know of the meeting in NYC at mom's IMO. or if he did, didn't think the kids would be included and didn't think she would be reported as missing so soon? And in their "plan" thought parking the car at the park would lead police to think she was abducted there - all MOO. Which begs the question, was he not there to see the poor clean up job? And if not, was it MT that performed this duty for him? all speculation

This would explain the quick delivery of the children to Grandma. It also explains why the nanny was there to allow the police access to the house in NC at or around 7:00 (which was an aspect of the whole thing that I was stumped on...).

 

[oviedo]

She’ll talk, I’m convinced of it.

I’m not sure what the sentencing guidelines are in CT, but she’s looking at potential“conspiracy to commit murder” charges.

That brings a heavy sentence.

Perhaps she will strike a deal, and plead guilty to accessory after the fact or something.

They already have her dead to rights on the tampering charge, and you can bet that more serious charges are coming down the pike.

Video evidence is quite compelling IMO but her family has money and they may think they can beat this evidence- how? I have no idea. maybe she says she didn't know what he was doing and was just along for the ride? IMO

 

[Ressler]

Going through the media file thread on this case, I do not see any reference to MT giving a DNA sample. There is mention of only FD giving a hair sample & buccal swab. This is interesting.

 

[Curiousobserver]

The nanny doesn't appear to live in so just assume she had set scheduled hours during the day and went home at night.

So, imagine the scenario where mom was supposed to be in the city for doctors appts during the day (11am and 1 pm if I recall correctly) and Mom doesn't show up at the end of the day?

Further my bet is that mom and nanny are typically texting on an ongoing basis during the day and that day for whatever reason the nanny didn't get any check in texts from mom--this brings up her awareness as this might be unusual for JD.

So, nanny probably hadn't had contact with Mom for most of the day, might have gotten calls from the doctors offices looking for JD as she hadn't shown up for appts and so what does Nanny most likely do?

Its the end of the school day and the kids need to be picked up so she picks them up (she could have been tasked with picking them up anyway that day as JD had a 1pm dr appt in the city which might have meant she might not have been back until after children needed to be picked up. This is an assumption on my part based on travel time).

So, now nanny has the children but its time to go home from work in a little while and yet there is still no mom and mom can't be reached by phone.

So, who does she call? My guess is perhaps a close JD friend and eventually JD mother. My guess is that she brought the children to JD mother as JD mother didn't want them at home with nanny alone, nobody knew where JD was at this point and perhaps someone had an inkling of foul play?! IDK. The transfer of the children wasn't until Saturday and the grandmother probably didn't want the children at home without JD present so it made sense to bring them into the city.

All I can say is THANK GOD for whatever reason it played out this way and the children are safe, cared for and still in the US!

I wouldn't be surprised if there was a pre-arrangement: If anything happens, like I disappear, call my mom and take the kids there.

 

[Alkali13]

She’ll talk, I’m convinced of it.

I’m not sure what the sentencing guidelines are in CT, but she’s looking at potential“conspiracy to commit murder” charges.

That brings a heavy sentence.

Perhaps she will strike a deal, and plead guilty to accessory after the fact or something.

They already have her dead to rights on the tampering charge, and you can bet that more serious charges are coming down the pike.

Okay, I'm no lawyer, so I'm trying to understand this. The minimum sentence for murder in CT is 25 years, but I can't find anything on conspiracy to commit murder.

 

[Jmoose]

She’ll talk, I’m convinced of it.

I’m not sure what the sentencing guidelines are in CT, but she’s looking at potential“conspiracy to commit murder” charges.

That brings a heavy sentence.

Perhaps she will strike a deal, and plead guilty to accessory after the fact or something.

They already have her dead to rights on the tampering charge, and you can bet that more serious charges are coming down the pike.

I hope you are right

 

[CTPDMom]

This would explain the quick delivery of the children to Grandma. It also explains why the nanny was there to allow the police access to the house in NC at or around 7:00 (which was an aspect of the whole thing that I was stumped on...).

Given the holiday weekend, and knowing that normal traffic on a Friday NB from Manhattan is terrible enough to make you cry, the nanny would have to have been really quick about going straight from school to granny's and then immediately back to CT. It's a little over an hour with no traffic, but can easily take 2 when traffic starts to back up. So the fact that it may have been pre-planned makes a lot of sense to me.

If mom had a 1p appointment in Manhattan, it's unlikely she planned to get the kids. That would have been cutting it really close. So if mom was a no-show at pickup, then the granny was called, then they found the nanny, she got to the school and took the kids, that would eat up precious time we know she didn't have since we know she was back in NC by around 7pm.

 

[MyBelle]

I wondered about that and thought maybe her lawyer advised against it because it might further “enrage” him. Lawyers sometimes advise things that seem incomprehensible.

Even if JD had obtained a protection order there was no guaranteed it would ensure her safety.

JMO

 

[Alkali13]

I'm going to be optimistic and hope that statement really means, "We do have some leads but we're not telling you because we don't want the press to show up while we investigate."

Probably wishful thinking on my part.....


jmo

I'm hoping the same.

 

[btfly547]

Going through the media file thread on this case, I do not see any reference to MT giving a DNA sample. There is mention of only FD giving a hair sample & buccal swab. This is interesting.

I think that's how they get DNA samples these days. Definitely from the cheek swab and also from the hair as long as the root is attached.

 

[enelram]

It'll be interesting if MT doesn't flip on him in the next few days.
Her mother and father, who probably put up her bond money, are
educated and accomplished people. If she's really innocent of being really involved in the murder and was simply a helper to
clean up, drive a car, etc., the parents would be strongly urging
her to fess up and spill the beans on FD. Like Chris Watts father
did to him. I don't think there would have been a confession without CW's father advising him.
But if instead, MT was an active participant in the actual confrontation and subsequent murder, her attorney along with her
parents will advise her to clam up and fight the charge.
Will be watching this closely.

 

[oviedo]

https://media.wtnh.com/nxs-wtnhtv-m...un 4, Doc 1_1559668712212_90689131_ver1.0.pdf
para 2 - Mom has JD's Power of Attorney - this shows me that she's one sharp lady - most married couples who are divorcing forget to update their POA's so their soon to be ex has no legal authority over them should they become incapacitated. It's often overlooked. Kudos to mom and JD for taking care of this. IMO

 

[Sherlockhemlock]

I wouldn't be surprised if there was a pre-arrangement: If anything happens, like I disappear, call my mom and take the kids there.

There probably was. My husband and I have had issues with one of his relatives and we have similar arrangements. If this, then that. Several close friends, as well as the trustees and those who are guardians have copies of our contingency plans as well as each others numbers and the business card for the estate lawyer. JMO

 

[peace9274]

Given the holiday weekend, and knowing that normal traffic on a Friday NB from Manhattan is terrible enough to make you cry, the nanny would have to have been really quick about going straight from school to granny's and then immediately back to CT. It's a little over an hour with no traffic, but can easily take 2 when traffic starts to back up. So the fact that it may have been pre-planned makes a lot of sense to me.

If mom had a 1p appointment in Manhattan, it's unlikely she planned to get the kids. That would have been cutting it really close. So if mom was a no-show at pickup, then the granny was called, then they found the nanny, she got to the school and took the kids, that would eat up precious time we know she didn't have since we know she was back in NC by around 7pm.

I’m not so sure the nanny returned to Jennifer’s house in NC, after she accompanied or drove the children to their grandmother’s. -

When I read in the warrant that she was the one who let LE into the house, I read it as she told them on the phone, from the grandmother’s, what the code was to open the garage door or where to find a hidden door key.

MOO

 

[MassGuy]

Okay, I'm no lawyer, so I'm trying to understand this. The minimum sentence for murder in CT is 25 years, but I can't find anything on conspiracy to commit murder.

I can’t either. It does appear though that she could be charged with murder itself, which is even better.

We’ll need a lawyer to chime in here. @LVatty10 @gitana1, any idea what she could be looking at, assuming she was involved in the murder plot itself?

One of the most important aspects of conspiracy law in Connecticut is that the State does not charge you with the crime of conspiracy itself and there is no separate penalty for conspiracy. Rather, you will be charged with conspiracy to commit a specific criminal offense that you conspired to engage in and the penalty is exactly the same as if you were to have actually committed that crime.

Conspiracy Crimes | Fairfield County Criminal Defense Lawyer

 

[Angels Advocate]

Yes, and if he isn't the epitome of an entitled, spoiled jerk.......
I'm so sorry JD's father didn't intervene with his daughter getting
entangled with this creep. Surely, if FD spent much time around her family, they must have gotten some vibes about all the red flags. But then I've seen similar malicious, entitled narcissists in
my own family and around the older family members the bad boy
acts like the good little boy scout. Eagle merit badges and all.
They're often great impersonators til they get entwined into
the family. Total manipulators.

Even if JD had obtained a protection order there was no guaranteed it would ensure her safety.

JMO

Yep, I said that further upstream; it wouldn't have mattered in her case.