Silver Alert CT- Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 #2

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  • #501
I suspect he was selling the houses and paying back the FIL until in 2017-2018 he decided to go big and started several renovations and new construction / FIL died and the secret is out since he’s not paying back any loans or making payments when he does sell property IMO he was stashing cash In 2017/2018 making no payments and that money is back in Greece or argentina - all speculation on my part

Follow the money trail. I do believe you are correct. He was stashing money in other country accounts, possibles Argentina. After all he did say according to his wife, he would disappear with the children and they would not be found. They would need money to live off of, what better way then to send money back ‘home’. Now if the feds can locate it.
 
  • #502
I walked my dog through Waveny about two hours ago. All the trails were open and there was very little police presence. Only three state police officers with yellow labs standing around (not actively searching). I walked up by the pond and all around. Could see trampled bushes every where they had searched but it looked like they had wrapped up the waveny search.

Thanks for that info Niky. :)
It's beaut to have someone nearby.
I would think, if vital evidence had been found there, your dog would need to walk elsewhere.

SO JD didn't go for this run, as FD was hoping, we may be fooled in thinking, by leaving her car parked nearby.
We can laugh at FD's and MT's premeditated planning, all toppling down.
Loads for them to ponder about once in Prison.
MOO.
 
  • #503
I believe his cell phone pings that afternoon (5/24) will lead them to her body JMO
 
  • #504
I think his outrage simmered for 2 years and exploded May 24 around 9:30 am in her garage at the New Canaan rental IMO

Absolutely. I brought up the Darren Mack case a few days ago.

He was also going through a divorce battle with his wife. He exhibited many of the same behaviors as FD here, and she was terrified of him.

He ultimately stabbed her to death in the garage of her home, and used a rifle to shoot the judge presiding over the case.

Rage is a powerful force.
 
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  • #506
When I say owner of the clothing, I mean the person(s) wearing the article during the crime and/or cleanup. I’m not sure why we are so focused on who the clothing belonged to rather than whose DNA is on the clothing. The bloodstained clothing possibly could’ve been painters coveralls or clothing purchased specifically for this crime. JMO.

If you can connect their clothes to her blood, then it shows they were in direct contact with her blood and thus were either at the clean up or at the murder. So their DNA mixed with her blood would work for sure.

But I think it can be hard to get DNA off clothing unless they shed a lot of skin cells. And they don't always. So if they know those are the perp's clothes with Jennifer's blood on them, through other means, it can be helpful.

Of course I know now that they have really strong evidence that the defendants were the one's disposing of that clothing so that's solid. But connecting their DNA or clothes to Jennifer's blood would be even better.
 
  • #507
Thank you! So they attacked her at her home after she dropped off the children, spent as little time as possible to clean up, then one of them drove her car and the other drove their car to the park, her car was left at the park, and they took the evidence with them. I don't think her body is at the park unless they went there at another time and put her there.
For however bone-headed these two are, I doubt the would go back to the park. With the amount of time spent at the Mountain Spring property that afternoon, I would think she's located somewhere on those 5 acres.
 
  • #508
I suspect he was selling the houses and paying back the FIL until in 2017-2018 he decided to go big and started several renovations and new construction / FIL died and the secret is out since he’s not paying back any loans or making payments when he does sell property IMO he was stashing cash In 2017/2018 making no payments and that money is back in Greece or argentina - all speculation on my part
I agree with your speculation but I also wonder how it got to the point where he had the cash to build the six houses in the first place? I won't put the speculative comments I've heard about how he did this on here as its pure speculation and most likely incorrect. I do believe that conventional lenders wouldn't have allowed an investory of 6 houses to exist for any period of time. I also am convinced that he is not bankable in the traditional sense as local lending standards are very conservative for developers.

This leads me to believe that he used unconventional lenders. But I wonder if he went to some 'non traditional' financing sources to get the cash to build out the 6 houses? If this were the case and these houses have been sitting awhile then some folks most like are quite unhappy IMO. Trying also to put dates to when all these houses were started and finished and how long he has been carrying them as between maintenance and taxes the carry cost of all of them is substantial, particularly if you are strapped for cash.
 
  • #509
I think the answer to finding JD is in any surveillance footage they will find from the morning of her disappearance when FD/MT left JDs home. I think they moved JD with FD’s Ford Raptor pickup (in the bed of the truck).. Why make the crime more complicated and submit yourself to more cleanup by using various vehicles. FD & MT were seen on CCTV disposing of evidence in the Ford Raptor Pickup. It would make sense to stay with one vehicle and it would be easier to move a body and cleanup the bed of the truck of any evidence.
 
  • #510
So did he 1) transport the body in JD's car; 2) transport the body in his own car; or 3) dispose of the body on somewhere on JD's (rented?) property? If you needed to hide something in broad daylight without being caught, you'd pick #3. IMHO.
It makes sense, but hiding it on 5 acres an hour away seems like a great idea when you're stupid enough to think you won't get caught. I don't think we know which car they hypothetically brought with them to NC. They've confiscated FD's vehicle, but I'm not sure if there were other options for them. It's highly unlikely they used her vehicle since you would have to move the body not only again, but in a public place in the middle of the day.
 
  • #511
My sister is an attorney who's been involved in countless property disputes. According to her, the girlfriend was instigator of the whole thing. She based her conclusion on -
  1. The girlfriend's Argentine and may not be aware of how US laws and LE work.
  2. She has a sketchy, grift-y background, the ski resort baby daddy who didn't marry her.
  3. Her mother is also sketchy, having a suspected psych counselor for taking kickbacks. In S. FL, this likely means accepting payment from patients for prescriptions.
  4. Her willingness to move into a married woman's house for the purpose of provoking her to leave (very strongarm move).
  5. The husband had a great lifestyle married to Jennifer, what does he gain by divorcing her?
  6. The girlfriend most likely wanted Jen's lifestyle. Mostly the money. Both could then move to Greece or Argentina and live like kings.
  7. Common Spanish saying - Money is the cheapest way to solve problems. In this case, as I mentioned before, MT and JD expected Jennifer to be so humiliated that they expected a quick settlement offer. Along the lines of - How much will it cost for you leave and give up all custodial rights to children. (How it would happen in Latin America)
  8. Instead, JD/MT ended up in protracted tit-for-tat custodial battle. (Americans love the courts!)
  9. Her view of custody battles may have included that a disappearing wife, meant the husband automatically gets full custody.
Just our opinion, we await additional evidence.

Also: Don't expect the girlfriend to give up the body to until after her lawyer gets her the best deal possible.
BINGO! I think the same of her. I think she's a trashy jet-setter type - an aggressive leach, not a friend of woman, competitive to the core, tough, a bully, into whatever money she can get, not trustworthy.

I don't think she is not the "average" mistress where the two happened to fall in love while his marriage was already crumbling and she found herself in an unfortunate mess, imo. She is a snake and I think she knew exactly what she was doing to Jennifer's life (and death), imo.

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My sister is an attorney who's been involved in countless property disputes. According to her, the girlfriend was instigator of the whole thing. She based her conclusion on -
  1. The girlfriend's Argentine and may not be aware of how US laws and LE work.
  2. She has a sketchy, grift-y background, the ski resort baby daddy who didn't marry her.
  3. Her mother is also sketchy, having a suspected psych counselor for taking kickbacks. In S. FL, this likely means accepting payment from patients for prescriptions.
  4. Her willingness to move into a married woman's house for the purpose of provoking her to leave (very strongarm move).
  5. The husband had a great lifestyle married to Jennifer, what does he gain by divorcing her?
  6. The girlfriend most likely wanted Jen's lifestyle. Mostly the money. Both could then move to Greece or Argentina and live like kings.
  7. Common Spanish saying - Money is the cheapest way to solve problems. In this case, as I mentioned before, MT and JD expected Jennifer to be so humiliated that they expected a quick settlement offer. Along the lines of - How much will it cost for you leave and give up all custodial rights to children. (How it would happen in Latin America)
  8. Instead, JD/MT ended up in protracted tit-for-tat custodial battle. (Americans love the courts!)
  9. Her view of custody battles may have included that a disappearing wife, meant the husband automatically gets full custody.
Just our opinion, we await additional evidence.

Also: Don't expect the girlfriend to give up the body to until after her lawyer gets her the best deal possible.

I’ve thought all along that MT was fed up with Jennifer and “her causing so much trouble and causing FD to lose money and putting stipulations on custody of the children and causing stress between her & FD etc etc etc”.

I imagine her constantly thinking about how to get rid of Jennifer.

MT came up with a plan and convinced FD how easy it would be to get rid of Jennifer.... and that the plan was so brilliant they’d never ever get caught.

Seems to have sounded good to FD!

MOO
 
  • #514
7pm the same night she went missing? jmo

@otto, my bet on the SUV being found is later possibly closer to 8-9 pm and even possibly later. Assuming 2 NCPD/1 car go to JD house on initial call and then call for assistance at the JD house based on what they see, I'm not sure how many personnel would be available on shift to go out and search the area to find the SUV?

There was alot going on initially at JD house as NCPD had to first gain access to the house via the nanny, then process the JD house, find the blood etc. and during this period they called in the State Police. It sounded like the grandmother had to be called to gain access to JD house and gave ok for nanny to let the police into house. This all took time and police resources IMO.

NCPD isn't a large department (town of 19,000) and it might have taken time for the State Police to mobilize and send in more than a few cars to assist in the search. The SUV was found 3 miles from JD house so maybe when additional resources from State Police arrived to help that a search radius was defined and the JD SUV was found.
 
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  • #515
Chances are if JD had lived in a "redneck trailer park" she would have been armed and perhaps protected herself.

At the very least Jennifer's mom would have said - "you in danger girl" and had armed posted to protect her daughter.
 
  • #516
I’ve thought all along that MT was fed up with Jennifer and “her causing so much trouble and causing FD to lose money and putting stipulations on custody of the children and causing stress between her & FD etc etc etc”.

I imagine her constantly thinking about how to get rid of Jennifer.

MT came up with a plan and convinced FD how easy it would be to get rid of Jennifer.... and that the plan was so brilliant they’d never ever get caught.

Seems to have sounded good to FD!

MOO
She may have felt this way, but his previous behavior is very important.

He was known for being a hothead, and Jennifer was clear in those divorce records that he was dangerous.

He probably didn’t require any coaxing.
 
  • #517
This guy has a documented history of abusive and threatening behavior.

We already know that Jennifer was afraid for her life.

There is plenty of precedent for guys like him, committing crimes like this.

It’s about power, control, money, and revenge.

Personally, I believe the girlfriend was a willing accomplice, but definitely not the driving force.

His previous pattern of behavior seems to make it clear that the motive was all his.
Ok - You’ve convinced me. Kinda!
But I still think MT thought a lot about ways to get rid of Jennifer and jumped at the chance to help out if & when FD suggested it.
 
  • #518
Have not had success in figuring this issue of lenders out. So far we have been led to believe that financing was provided by late FIL. A house would be built and then the FIL loan would be repaid. The Hartford Courant reported on a foreclosure action on the house FD is presently living in and I attempted to seach out the lender and was not successful. But eventually this will be made public in my experience. The MIL presently has litigation with FD regarding non payment or any repayment of loans made to develop real estate. What I am trying to figure out is where the money came from to get to the point that he had 6 unsold multimillion dollar houses? If he didn't get the money from traditional lenders then where/who provided the funding?

I have also been trying to figure out why his 3 partners left Fore Group. It could have been that the Company simply ran out of cash and so was unable to develop anything new until some of the inventory was sold and there was nothing for the partners to do.

Still puzzled by where the cash came from the build the current unsold inventory. Any ideas?

No idea but keep seeing peeps mentioning the three partners left but I’ve only ever saw the two other people on his page in about us section, and those are the same people in the awards pics I’ve seen. Also worth mentioning his reviews on his business page have gone down substantially with negative reviews tied to his perceived complicity in Jennifer’s disappearance.
 
  • #519
Ok - You’ve convinced me. Kinda!
But I still think MT thought a lot about ways to get rid of Jennifer and jumped at the chance to help out if & when FD suggested it.
Haaaaaaaa. Worth a try.

We’ll obviously find out more as the case moves forward.
 
  • #520
I think the answer to finding JD is in any surveillance footage they will find from the morning of her disappearance when FD/MT left JDs home. I think they moved JD with FD’s Ford Raptor pickup (in the bed of the truck).. Why make the crime more complicated and submit yourself to more cleanup by using various vehicles. FD & MT were seen on CCTV disposing of evidence in the Ford Raptor Pickup. It would make sense to stay with one vehicle and it would be easier to move a body and cleanup the bed of the truck of any evidence.
If JD's vehicle was left at the park around noon, and if her body is not on her property, then this is my #2 theory. If he did take the body back with him, he probably waited until dark to do the remainder of his dirty work. Hopefully, he left his cell phone on. MOO.
 
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