Silver Alert CT- Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 #2

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I think he did leave his phone behind. Or turned it off. I looked closely at the arrest warrant affidavit and it gives a pretty good timeline and clears up some stuff we've been batting around (well maybe you've all covered this already. I'm working and popping in and out of here).

We know from other sources that the mom left at 8:00 a.m. to drop the kids off at school and missed an 11:00 a.m. appointment and no one was home when the cleaning lady came at noon. Not sure when Jennifer got home.

WARRANT AFFIDAVIT INFORMATION:

But we can assume she did. The affidavit shows that when officers got the report that night at 7:00 p.m. or so, that Jennifer was missing, and went to the house they found:

EVIDENCE IN THE HOUSE:
1. Multiple areas of blood spatter. (It doesn't specify where).
2. Blood stains on the garage floor.
3. Evidence that someone had attempted to clean the crime scene.

From this I believe the crime could have occurred in the home and her bloody body carried to the garage and laid on the floor, or maybe she was killed in the garage or stumbled there after initially being attacked and was killed there or died there.

It doesn't say when FD left his home. But the following is a timeline of his movements, from cell phone records, and surveillance videos:

TIMELINE OF FD'S MOVEMENTS:
1. He left his Farmington home, time unstated and drove directly, it appears, to the Mountain Springs Road property in Farmington. It's a five minute drive, so likely five minutes before he arrived. So 1:32 p.m.?
Google Maps
2. At 1:37 p.m. he arrived at the Mountain Springs Road property in Farmington.
3. At 3:38 p.m. he left the Mountain Springs Road property and drove home. (So he spent about two hours or so at that property).
4. He arrived at his home at 4:17 p.m. So what was he doing between times?
5. At at 5:21 p.m. he was back at Mountain Spring Road.
6. At 5:34 p.m. he was back at his home.
7. At 7: 10 p.m. he entered Hartford near Albany Avenue. That's about a 12 minute drive: Google Maps
8. Between 7:10 p.m. and 7:41 p.m, his vehicle is identified as being in Hartford in various locations where evidence was found. A man who fits his description is seen at at least one of those locations, near where evidence was dumped, and a woman who appears to be Michelle Troconis is likewise seen coming from the passenger side of his vehicle, out of the car and doing something near where evidence was dumped.
9. At 7:41 p.m. he leaves Hartford.
10. At 9:10 to 9:12 p.m., he pulls into his property and casually walks to the mailbox where he retrieves the mail. Knowing that Jennifer died that day and he likely killed her makes this stunning.

Items found where he, MT and his vehicle were seen in Hartford at evidence dump sites include:

EVIDENCE FOUND IN HARTFORD:
Trash bags with a blood-like substance on them.
Clothes with what looked like blood on them, in the trash bags.
A sponge in the trash bag.
Altered license plates in a storm drain grate, with the license plates coming from vehicles owned by FD.

Jennifer's blood was found to be on the items in the trash bags.

QUESTIONS:
1. What time did he leave his house for the first time that day?
2. Is he seen at Jennifer's home that day?
3. Where was he between 8:00 a.m. and 11:00 a.m. or 1:30 p.m., the day Jennifer disappeared.

It seems there could be significant time unaccounted for. Lots of time to dispose of a body. Probably a four hour window.

I think they will need help to find Jennifer.

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Thank you for this, Gitana. Very succinct and helpful!
 
  • #563
Divorce should not look like this, but it does. I just called my ex for help buying a riding mower. I wish Jennifer had this story, I grieve for her and her children that they did not.
 
  • #564
This makes sense to me. Otherwise, I would think they would have tracked his movements from NC to Farmington (maybe they have and we are unaware). Cameras seem to be everywhere, so I imagine they have been checking that path.

I really wonder where he put her..? I can't imagine driving for 1+ hours with 30 bags of bloody evidence and a body in the vehicle with me!!:eek:
I think he bagged the evidence after, so he was probably just driving with a body. Blech.
 
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Snipped and BBM

Please don’t crucify me. To be clear, I HATE ******* lawyers more than anyone because they shame my profession, a profession that I worked very hard for!

But, the lawyers were not enlisted to help “the family.” I think it’s a tiny bit unfair to put a tragic horrific ending to a very contentious custody and divorce fight on the lawyers. A lawyer’s job is to advocate and fight for his/her client. Period. Of course there are lines that should not be crossed and it can be a very tight rope to walk. But FD’s lawyers fighting for him to have additional time with his kids or even for joint custody means they were doing their jobs. Sorry, just had to say that.

Not only that, but as I discussed on the last thread when people were criticizing the family law judge, in family law we see threats, or alleged threats, contempt, and total insanity all the time. Because the cases that end up being litigated are always bad and at least one party is a nut. (otherwise they would just settle). Out of that endless amount of nasty cases just like this one, almost none end up with death like this.

It is exceedingly rare despite the volume of horrible cases.
 
  • #566
Google Maps
This map shows Edwards St. and then Baltimore St.
Yes, but Arrest Document refers to a 4 mile stretch of Albany and it lists Edwards as one boundary and Biltmore as another. The only Biltmore I can find is not in Hartford.
 
  • #567
Divorce should not look like this, but it does. I just called my ex for help buying a riding mower. I wish Jennifer had this story, I grieve for her and her children that they did not.

Absolutely agreed. My ex and I are still family. And even if we weren't it's a choice whether you want to set aside anger and emotion and do the right thing, or not.
 
  • #568
I think he did leave his phone behind. Or turned it off. I looked closely at the arrest warrant affidavit and it gives a pretty good timeline and clears up some stuff we've been batting around (well maybe you've all covered this already. I'm working and popping in and out of here).

We know from other sources that the mom left at 8:00 a.m. to drop the kids off at school and missed an 11:00 a.m. appointment and no one was home when the cleaning lady came at noon. Not sure when Jennifer got home.

WARRANT AFFIDAVIT INFORMATION:

But we can assume she did. The affidavit shows that when officers got the report that night at 7:00 p.m. or so, that Jennifer was missing, and went to the house they found:

EVIDENCE IN THE HOUSE:
1. Multiple areas of blood spatter. (It doesn't specify where).
2. Blood stains on the garage floor.
3. Evidence that someone had attempted to clean the crime scene.

From this I believe the crime could have occurred in the home and her bloody body carried to the garage and laid on the floor, or maybe she was killed in the garage or stumbled there after initially being attacked and was killed there or died there.

It doesn't say when FD left his home. But the following is a timeline of his movements, from cell phone records, and surveillance videos:

TIMELINE OF FD'S MOVEMENTS:
1. He left his Farmington home, time unstated and drove directly, it appears, to the Mountain Springs Road property in Farmington. It's a five minute drive, so likely five minutes before he arrived. So 1:32 p.m.?
Google Maps
2. At 1:37 p.m. he arrived at the Mountain Springs Road property in Farmington.
3. At 3:38 p.m. he left the Mountain Springs Road property and drove home. (So he spent about two hours or so at that property).
4. He arrived at his home at 4:17 p.m. So what was he doing between times?
5. At at 5:21 p.m. he was back at Mountain Spring Road.
6. At 5:34 p.m. he was back at his home.
7. At 7: 10 p.m. he entered Hartford near Albany Avenue. That's about a 12 minute drive: Google Maps
8. Between 7:10 p.m. and 7:41 p.m, his vehicle is identified as being in Hartford in various locations where evidence was found. A man who fits his description is seen at at least one of those locations, near where evidence was dumped, and a woman who appears to be Michelle Troconis is likewise seen coming from the passenger side of his vehicle, out of the car and doing something near where evidence was dumped.
9. At 7:41 p.m. he leaves Hartford.
10. At 9:10 to 9:12 p.m., he pulls into his property and casually walks to the mailbox where he retrieves the mail. Knowing that Jennifer died that day and he likely killed her makes this stunning.

Items found where he, MT and his vehicle were seen in Hartford at evidence dump sites include:

EVIDENCE FOUND IN HARTFORD:
Trash bags with a blood-like substance on them.
Clothes with what looked like blood on them, in the trash bags.
A sponge in the trash bag.
Altered license plates in a storm drain grate, with the license plates coming from vehicles owned by FD.

Jennifer's blood was found to be on the items in the trash bags.

QUESTIONS:
1. What time did he leave his house for the first time that day?
2. Is he seen at Jennifer's home that day?
3. Where was he between 8:00 a.m. and 11:00 a.m. or 1:30 p.m., the day Jennifer disappeared.

It seems there could be significant time unaccounted for. Lots of time to dispose of a body. Probably a four hour window.

I think they will need help to find Jennifer.

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This brings up something I've been wondering: Has he offered an alibi at all?
 
  • #569
I think she would have to try to depart by land as any commercial carrier would be examining her passport as she boarded an international flight
If MT can get to Miami, she can easily board a boat to the Caribbean. It depends on the evidence against her and if she can cut a great deal with the prosecutor.

Great for her would almost certainly included immunity.
 
  • #570
I don't disagree with you about the lawyers as they are doing their best for their clients within the confines of the law. I really wonder if the reason this case kept dragging was that neither party wanted give in? Both parties were fighting to the end and were not willing to give an inch. I've seen no evidence of communication or any efforts to compromise. FD spent 2 years fighting to not disclose any financial information and was actually successful in this effort. Not sure why the court couldn't compel his compliance in a more direct way such as putting him in jail? I also don't understand why if there were threats of violence why this matter wasn't move out of family court?

BUT, how to defend the judges here? I just keep reading and reading the court documents and it baffles me how there was almost complete indifference to JD claims of fearing for her life and the lives of her children. Each time we had a new judge I seriously question if they had read any portion of the file prior to their hearing. If you can help to explain the judging I would appreciate it as there appears to be no communication between these judges.
No offense to any and all lawyers here, but I still think a lot of them know how to drag out a case and keep billing his client. (As in my case!)

I wrote a long email to my Atty, very simple and easy to read and understand, explaining why my then STBX was in contempt, was lying about his assets, his company, and gave him the bank accounts he had closed.

I received a reply from the Atty saying he spent a long time trying to figure out what I was trying to say!

I called him and spent an hour explaining my email!!

That month I got a large bill from him for not only the hr long phone call.... but also the hour he spent “reading & trying to make sense of my email.”

Stuff like that incident kept happening during the 2 yrs before we went to trial!!
 
  • #571
This brings up something I've been wondering: Has he offered an alibi at all?

I think he’s clammed up, and refused to answer questions.

Law enforcement can’t make him talk, and talking could only hurt him.
 
  • #572
I was reading through the arrest document and was puzzled by the section that describes the C4 Video of Albany Street. There is a reference to a 4 mile stretch between Biltmore and Edward Streets. If anyone in Hartford can double check me but I did a google walk down Albany and I didn't see a Biltmore Street in Hartford.

Can anyone figure out what was meant in the police report? If you go 4 miles down Albany there aren't any streets with B in their name that I can see. I'm assuming they were heading back to Avon/Farmington, but maybe this is a poor assumption. Could the arrest warrant document simply be incorrect? I was trying to create a map based on the arrest warrant document and then ran into this issue. Ideas?

I’d go there cause I’m local but it’s dangerous and I’m a big baby
 
  • #573
I think he did leave his phone behind. Or turned it off. I looked closely at the arrest warrant affidavit and it gives a pretty good timeline and clears up some stuff we've been batting around (well maybe you've all covered this already. I'm working and popping in and out of here).

We know from other sources that the mom left at 8:00 a.m. to drop the kids off at school and missed an 11:00 a.m. appointment and no one was home when the cleaning lady came at noon. Not sure when Jennifer got home.

WARRANT AFFIDAVIT INFORMATION:

But we can assume she did. The affidavit shows that when officers got the report that night at 7:00 p.m. or so, that Jennifer was missing, and went to the house they found:

EVIDENCE IN THE HOUSE:
1. Multiple areas of blood spatter. (It doesn't specify where).
2. Blood stains on the garage floor.
3. Evidence that someone had attempted to clean the crime scene.

From this I believe the crime could have occurred in the home and her bloody body carried to the garage and laid on the floor, or maybe she was killed in the garage or stumbled there after initially being attacked and was killed there or died there.

It doesn't say when FD left his home. But the following is a timeline of his movements, from cell phone records, and surveillance videos:

TIMELINE OF FD'S MOVEMENTS:
1. He left his Farmington home, time unstated and drove directly, it appears, to the Mountain Springs Road property in Farmington. It's a five minute drive, so likely five minutes before he arrived. So 1:32 p.m.?
Google Maps
2. At 1:37 p.m. he arrived at the Mountain Springs Road property in Farmington.
3. At 3:38 p.m. he left the Mountain Springs Road property and drove home. (So he spent about two hours or so at that property).
4. He arrived at his home at 4:17 p.m. So what was he doing between times?
5. At at 5:21 p.m. he was back at Mountain Spring Road.
6. At 5:34 p.m. he was back at his home.
7. At 7: 10 p.m. he entered Hartford near Albany Avenue. That's about a 12 minute drive: Google Maps
8. Between 7:10 p.m. and 7:41 p.m, his vehicle is identified as being in Hartford in various locations where evidence was found. A man who fits his description is seen at at least one of those locations, near where evidence was dumped, and a woman who appears to be Michelle Troconis is likewise seen coming from the passenger side of his vehicle, out of the car and doing something near where evidence was dumped.
9. At 7:41 p.m. he leaves Hartford.
10. At 9:10 to 9:12 p.m., he pulls into his property and casually walks to the mailbox where he retrieves the mail. Knowing that Jennifer died that day and he likely killed her makes this stunning.

Items found where he, MT and his vehicle were seen in Hartford at evidence dump sites include:

EVIDENCE FOUND IN HARTFORD:
Trash bags with a blood-like substance on them.
Clothes with what looked like blood on them, in the trash bags.
A sponge in the trash bag.
Altered license plates in a storm drain grate, with the license plates coming from vehicles owned by FD.

Jennifer's blood was found to be on the items in the trash bags.

QUESTIONS:
1. What time did he leave his house for the first time that day?
2. Is he seen at Jennifer's home that day?
3. Where was he between 8:00 a.m. and 11:00 a.m. or 1:30 p.m., the day Jennifer disappeared.

It seems there could be significant time unaccounted for. Lots of time to dispose of a body. Probably a four hour window.

I think they will need help to find Jennifer.

Scan Jun 3, 2019 (367 views)
Excellent! It will be interesting to find out MT’s movements on that day as well. Just reading through your timeline it occurred to me that maybe MT was the only one at JD’s house that morning (MT committed the murder alone)? Possibly this was part of a premeditated plan between FD and MT? Just thinking out loud.....
 
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I agree I think it’s the judge that’s the problem IMO this is not a new thing I know of a divorce case going on 5 years litigation with young children and a foreclosure and custody transfers take place at the police station it’s so bad - this happens all the time IMO when do you know it will escalate to murder ? Sadly you can’t predict with accuracy but I think they should error on the side of caution MOO

Nope. Not the judge's fault. She did err on the side of caution. He had a very restrictive visitation order. Supervised by a professional and no overnights.

And previously, when Jennifer asked for a restraining order, there was not enough information to determine he was a danger. Not when you see the volume of cases that are exactly like this one that never end in tragedy.

Regardless, no order that judge could have issued would have prevented him from murdering his ex.
 
  • #575
It also could have been some kind of ponzi scheme where he was taking money from people willing to sign contracts and then using that money for other houses. The music stopped with this game when people weren't signing up for new builds and his inventory wasn't selling.
Yep I called it a pyramid scheme
 
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Why do we think he may have driven an hour plus north to throw out stuff? From where?
If he was in NC committing the murder, he lives 1+ hour away. That evening, FD and MT were on camera throwing 30 bags of evidence in trashes around Hartford, which is still about an hour away from NC.
 
  • #578
Yes, but Arrest Document refers to a 4 mile stretch of Albany and it lists Edwards as one boundary and Biltmore as another. The only Biltmore I can find is not in Hartford.
Where is it?
 
  • #579
Divorce should not look like this, but it does. I just called my ex for help buying a riding mower. I wish Jennifer had this story, I grieve for her and her children that they did not.

Same - My ex comes over for Christmas and Easter dinner. We've been divorced for 20 years. I too wish Jennifer had such stories.
 
  • #580
Not only that, but as I discussed on the last thread when people were criticizing the family law judge, in family law we see threats, or alleged threats, contempt, and total insanity all the time. Because the cases that end up being litigated are always bad and at least one party is a nut. (otherwise they would just settle). Out of that endless amount of nasty cases just like this one, almost none end up with death like this.

It is exceedingly rare despite the volume of horrible cases.
An interesting POV, but in this case the various judges had a certain level of consistency in how they were treating visitation from FD with the children.

Visitation evolved to the point where it was supervised and highly limited. Initially phone calls were permitted and then this evolved to calls on a speaker phone only and then phone calls were eliminated after an incident with one of the children.

THEN a new judge enters the scene and seems to reverse all this and permit FD to take the children unsupervised as far as I can tell for the 2 days over Memorial Day weekend. It took JD nearly 2 years of hard slogging in court to get the visitation issue buttoned up and then enter Judge Heller and everything changed. My bet is that JD was not only fearful for her safety but hugely angry about what had happened.

My question is why did the Judge reverse nearly 2 years of rulings on visitation? She made a vague statement about the importance of children seeing their father etc. But frankly such statements in light of what the court knew and we are beginning to learn about FD are irrelevant IMO. It is also baffling to me that the one weekend where he was finally able to take the children unsupervised it now looks like he and his mistress did away with JD? This leads me to question what, if any commitment he had to the children? I'm still trying to understand what kicked off the events at JD house. Was this premeditated around the fact that he would have the children for 2 days or was this an explosion of anger that resulted after some argument/discussion with JD etc.?
 
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