Silver Alert CT- Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 #3 *ARRESTS*

[peace9274]

I was thinking probate in relation to her father. She's not yet proven deceased, although police are looking for a body, so her estate cannot be in probate court.

Did her mother file on behalf of her estate? I know she filed in 2018 on behalf of the father's estate. Are you thinking that her mother should now file against her estate to recoup the loss? I suppose that would be a good move.

Is there a chance that JD has been declared dead by the amount of blood loss or if maybe MT has told LE that JD is dead, but the public has not been told? Thus the reason Mrs Farber is able to file her motion in Probate Court?

 

[Sherlockhemlock]

BBM
(I hate writing this, but want to share a quick thought...)

Tanners have some, uh, very not-so-21st-century "skill sets" (we here in this country are not so used to seeing/hearing of tanners in their workplaces [other than those who have used "tanning" beds -- OT]). One of those skills includes ----- well, I'd rather not write many details about it; just do a quick online search.

Suffice it to say, many (not *all*) tanners of "yesteryear" not only slaughtered the animal; they also had to dispense with the remains, including the blood -- pretty much everything except the skin, which they would then tan.

This could be wayyy "out there", but... did FD learn various parts of his father's & grandfather's tanning trade, I wonder?

Quite possibly. Although I am not a jeweler, my mom and stepdad were and I grew up in the business. I know my way around a bench and can do minor repairs. JMO

 

[Steelslady]

Exactly. It's curious that he was in Italy (excellent alibi) when his nanny accidentally drove over his mother, and then he forgave her and everyone lived together happily.

It sounds more like the nanny got rid of his mother and she was more than an employee.

Maybe dear old Mom didn't like the nanny for many reasons. Perhaps she confronted her about some things she didn't like. It's a bit coincidental, her son being away in Italy while the nanny runs the poor woman over. I smell BS with the accident story. May the poor woman rest in peace.

 

[peace9274]

Quite possibly. Although I am not a jeweler, my mom and stepdad were and I grew up in the business. I know my way around a bench and can do minor repairs. JMO

I’m confused. How does being a jeweler pertain to the post about being a tanner?
TIA

ETA: oh I think I know what you’re trying to explain. That by the mere fact that FD grew up around tanners, he gained knowledge - without actually becoming one. Is that right?

 

[afitzy]

Is there a chance that JD has been declared dead by the amount of blood loss or if maybe MT has told LE that JD is dead, but the public has not been told? Thus the reason Mrs Farber is able to file her motion in Probate Court?

Sadly we just don't know.

But my bet is the family is getting daily briefings at a min so they certainly know more than we do.

I wonder if based on the amout of debris covered with blood that LE can estimate blood loss too? What was the phrase that was used to describe what happened in the garage? I believe it was described by police in warrant as that a "severe physical assault" had taken place. I just went back to the arrest document and it refers to JD as the 'victim'. Mmmm. Wonder if this language being used is significant? I would think a missing person would be described as a missing person and not a VICTIM? But IDK.

 

[Sillybilly]

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[afitzy]

I’m confused. How does being a jeweler pertain to the post about being a tanner?
TIA

I think they are making the point that as a child surrounded by parents that do a trade or craft that you are bound to pick up certain skills. My bet is that FD knew quite a bit about the tanning business and body disposal was no issue for him, just time consuming.

 

[Anance]

I guess I'm trying to figure out how this process would work if the mother were missing and not yet proven deceased.

Just a guess. Probate may have a lower standard of evidence regarding a person being dead. So, Mrs. Faber may have introduced such evidence (as made public + other aspects we don't about.) Her goal is to obtain custody of the children w/the least amount of publicity - both for their sakes and to avoid imperiling the police investigation.

 

[Sherlockhemlock]

DbM. Answered above

 

[peace9274]

Sadly we just don't know.

But my bet is the family is getting daily briefings at a min so they certainly know more than we do.

I wonder if based on the amout of debris covered with blood that LE can estimate blood loss too? What was the phrase that was used to describe what happened in the garage? I believe it was described by police in warrant as that a "severe physical assault" had taken place. I just went back to the arrest document and it refers to JD as the 'victim'. Mmmm. Wonder if this language being used is significant? I would think a missing person would be described as a missing person and not a VICTIM? But IDK.

iirc... One of our WSers posted, a day or 2 ago, a link to an interview by a Dr? Baden who said the amount of blood loss (from what was seen in the garage) could have caused death, dismemberment, or at least caused hospitalization.

(I don’t recall if it’s the same Dr Baden we’ve seen interviewed on other cases).

MOO

 

[MassGuy]

iirc... One of our WSers posted, a day or 2 ago, a link to an interview by a Dr? Baden who said the amount of blood loss (from what was seen in the garage) could have caused death or at least caused hospitalization.

(I don’t recall if it’s the same Dr Baden we’ve seen interviewed on other cases).

MOO

Yes, it was THE Dr. Baden of “Autopsy” fame.

He doesn’t have any inside knowledge of this case, but he did provide insight into what police will be looking for.

Dr. Michael Baden: Here's what investigators are looking for in Jennifer Dulos' disappearance

 

[peace9274]

Yes, it was THE Dr. Baden of “Autopsy” fame.

He doesn’t have any inside knowledge of this case, but he did provide insight into what police will be looking for.

Dr. Michael Baden: Here's what investigators are looking for in Jennifer Dulos' disappearance

Fantastic and posted so fast!
Thank you!

 

[clearskies1]

Just a guess. Probate may have a lower standard of evidence regarding a person being dead. So, Mrs. Faber may have introduced such evidence (as made public + other aspects we don't about.) Her goal is to obtain custody of the children w/the least amount of publicity - both for their sakes and to avoid imperiling the police investigation.

http://www.ctprobate.gov/Documents/User Guide - Guardians of Minors.pdf

 

[otto]

I just typed in GPS monitoring devices used in Connecticut and up this information came. I did search through images under that search and saw nothing similar to MT’s bracelet. I’m guessing they gave her this beauty to accommodate her Seal Shoes....haha

The seal shoes were like water mitts for feet - go figure.
Maybe she has the latest model in ankle bracelets.

There is a white square on the monitor and it looks a bit like a phone interface. The only reason for an interface is for authorities to visually monitor where she is and what she is doing when she's not at home.

What are other thoughts on the white square in the photo?

 

[Sherlockhemlock]

I’m confused. How does being a jeweler pertain to the post about being a tanner?
TIA

ETA: oh I think I know what you’re trying to explain. That by the mere fact that FD grew up around tanners, he gained knowledge - without actually becoming one. Is that right?

That is correct. You grow up in the family business, you will learn at least some of the skills. JMO

 

[otto]

Maybe dear old Mom didn't like the nanny for many reasons. Perhaps she confronted her about some things she didn't like. It's a bit coincidental, her son being away in Italy while the nanny runs the poor woman over. I smell BS with the accident story. May the poor woman rest in peace.

My guess is that suspect was having a fling with the nanny and his mother found out. It seemed like a better idea to eliminate his mother than his nanny, so he used the nanny to get rid of his mother while he was on another continent. Well played.

He probably thought this murder would be equally smooth - 30 bits in 30 places and no one will connect the dots.

 

[otto]

That is correct. You grow up in the family business, you will learn at least some of the skills. JMO

Family business is where the child can do what the parent can do, but the child does it better.

 

[bkgregg5]

DBM
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[otto]

Yes, it was THE Dr. Baden of “Autopsy” fame.

He doesn’t have any inside knowledge of this case, but he did provide insight into what police will be looking for.

Dr. Michael Baden: Here's what investigators are looking for in Jennifer Dulos' disappearance

It's helpful for an expert, like Baden, to assess how much blood was found at the scene, and determine whether that blood loss represents death. If he is unaware of the amount of blood loss, then it would be impossible to assess whether someone is alive or dead based on litres of blood loss. Something like 8 liters of blood needed to sustain life - anyone remember?

Blood loss can represent murder, but can he confirm that Jennifer had so much blood loss that she is no longer alive?

 

[indicolite22]

My guess is that suspect was having a fling with the nanny and his mother found out. It seemed like a better idea to eliminate his mother than his nanny, so he used the nanny to get rid of his mother while he was on another continent. Well played.

He probably thought this murder would be equally smooth - 30 bits in 30 places and no one will connect the dots.

I'd sooner believe that it was an accident. There is not indication to me that it wasn't. Especially with him being on another continent - no element of control. If the mother had been deliberately run over, she would have suspected so, since she survived at first.