Silver Alert CT- Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 #7 *ARRESTS*

[Eli9]

Did anyone download it - if we can't link to it I would say probably not?

I don't see why not as it was from a MSM source. But if you have concerns just PM moderator on duty.

I may do that later. Thanks to both of you.

 

[Alkali13]

You have a great memory.

Thank you! I actually was saying to my therapist yesterday how this case made me realize that. People will ask about details, and I remember all of them. Clearly I retain more information than I realize.

 

[Alkali13]

No assumptions - I was just surprised he had Wednesday supervised at all - I've never read that before now. I wonder if JD was home 5/22 during this "visit"?

Yes, there was a BBQ in her backyard with multiple people in attendance.

 

[Alkali13]

Those that were around last night for the Wednesday evening visit by FD - look what I found buried in an article bbm and snipped
After the court granted FD supervised visitation this February, he and JD could not reach an agreement on a schedule. In March, Judge Donna Heller granted FD supervised visitation every other weekend, starting March 30. He was allotted seven hours on Saturdays in Fairfield County and six hours on Sundays in Hartford County, which could take place at the Farmington house. FD was also granted three hours of visitation on Wednesdays in Fairfield County.
Warrant: Jennifer Dulos’ blood-stained items tossed by estranged husband, his girlfriend
-----so the 5/22 visit was regular according to this - not to say he didn't use it to scope things out at her home. but he was authorized to be there and I so hope the person who overheard the DNA remark was the court ordered supervisor of the visits. IMO
Prosecutors also allege Fotis Dulos showed up at Jennifer Dulos' New Canaan home on Wednesday, May 22, two days before she vanished. He did not go inside, they said, and allegedly told people he didn't want to go inside because he was worried his DNA would be found inside the residence. The two have not been living together since Jennifer Dulos filed for divorce in 2017. Tests Find Man's DNA, CT Mom's Blood Mixed on Faucet: Court

Amazing find! Great sleuthing!

 

[ChiCubs2016]

IMO Boston is STILL too close. I'd think Baltimore or DC.

I recently live and worked in Baltimore for 6 years. Folks there would not have any sympathy for Fotis!

 

[Alkali13]

No assumptions - I was just surprised he had Wednesday supervised at all - I've never read that before now. I wonder if JD was home 5/22 during this "visit"?

I floated this before. When my parents got divorced we had every other weekend plus Wednesday night weekly with my father. It's a very popular custody agreement.

 

[JillR]

The children rode horses there, but no, no one worked there. It was accidental. People keep throwing out theories FD was involved in the fire, which I personally (no offense intended to anyone) find ridiculous.

Thank you.

 

[Alkali13]

Thank you.

No problem! A lot of people seem to think FD's mother's death and the barn fire are related to FD and the investigations need to be reopened, but I just can't see him being involved in either incident. They were just freak accidents, especially since the fire would've been investigated thoroughly for insurance purposes.

 

[JillR]

Thank you! I couldn't figure out why he FD would be at JD's house.

The moron did it backwards... He could have gone in to use the restroom, washed his hands at the sink or whatever else...

 

[LittleBitty]

Pattis is doing what he can right now but it reminds me of whack-a-mole. Every time he tries to control the narrative ie (my client, FD, couldn’t have done this) the prosecution/police (while we don’t know what they have and have been largely silent) can just trout out CCTV, cell phone data, DNA data. It’s fabulous and I will not let whatever Pattis says control the narrative for me. I’m just not susceptible to BS.

Some things Pattis has said over the last 72 hours:

1. FD has no motive to kill Jennifer...Oh really?
I’m of the belief that the state may not have to present a motive especially if they find Jennifer’s remains. But contentious divorce, custody of 5 children and well major financial reasons, etc...there is more than enough just from the little we have all seen to suggest there is a motive.

2. I can account for almost all of that time on May 24th....
Except for three hours. Critical ones where he could easily have driven to NC from Farmington killed JD and driven back.

I could go on and on. Now we are saying that someone else borrowed the truck for a period of time. When was that? During the trashbin and license plate trip? No bc he was seen on video surveillance at 8:10 pm that very evening checking mail. So it must have been when the crime was alleged to have occurred? Really? The only reason you would be disposing of crime scene evidence is bc you did it or hired someone to do it and they failed.

I’m just not going to let Pattis get me down. Or lack of reward money or police asking for search volunteers. They have a very strong case. I admit if there wasn’t a lot of CCTV evidence I wouldn’t feel as confident but I do and I think this may be one of the strongest cases I have folllowed on WebSleuths and that’s saying something. Jodie Arias I felt was a slam dunk but just like in that case it will come down to tearing JD apart just like they did to Travis Alexander.

Y’all are so awesome! I am going through such a hard time right now (family stuff) and this has been a great way to help me focus on other things. I love reading all your comments and insights. I’m glad this forum exists. The reason it exists is unfortunate bc bad people to bad things but there are very few places that are for the victim and this is one.

Hopefully we will get some new stuff to discuss even if it’s just tearing down the stuff Pattis is saying.

 

[JillR]

No problem! A lot of people seem to think FD's mother's death and the barn fire are related to FD and the investigations need to be reopened, but I just can't see him being involved in either incident. They were just freak accidents, especially since the fire would've been investigated thoroughly for insurance purposes.

I was one of the people thinking that but I respect your opinion and I get it. I think BECAUSE such tragedy has surrounded him before, I was thinking to myself this is a lot....

 

[oviedo]

I floated this before. When my parents got divorced we had every other weekend plus Wednesday night weekly with my father. It's a very popular custody agreement.

I remember from last night - a couple posters indicated this was common - I just couldn't find any reference to a supervised visit other than sat/sun until today. I like it when it works out that we can confirm facts. Although I haven't read the document myself.

 

[Alkali13]

Pattis is doing what he can right now but it reminds me of whack-a-mole. Every time he tries to control the narrative ie (my client, FD, couldn’t have done this) the prosecution/police (while we don’t know what they have and have been largely silent) can just trout out CCTV, cell phone data, DNA data. It’s fabulous and I will not let whatever Pattis says control the narrative for me. I’m just not susceptible to BS.

Some things Pattis has said over the last 72 hours:

1. FD has no motive to kill Jennifer...Oh really?
I’m of the belief that the state may not have to present a motive especially if they find Jennifer’s remains. But contentious divorce, custody of 5 children and well major financial reasons, etc...there is more than enough just from the little we have all seen to suggest there is a motive.

2. I can account for almost all of that time on May 24th....
Except for three hours. Critical ones where he could easily have driven to NC from Farmington killed JD and driven back.

I could go on and on. Now we are saying that someone else borrowed the truck for a period of time. When was that? During the trashbin and license plate trip? No bc he was seen on video surveillance at 8:10 pm that very evening checking mail. So it must have been when the crime was alleged to have occurred? Really? The only reason you would be disposing of crime scene evidence is bc you did it or hired someone to do it and they failed.

I’m just not going to let Pattis get me down. Or lack of reward money or police asking for search volunteers. They have a very strong case. I admit if there wasn’t a lot of CCTV evidence I wouldn’t feel as confident but I do and I think this may be one of the strongest cases I have folllowed on WebSleuths and that’s saying something. Jodie Arias I felt was a slam dunk but just like in that case it will come down to tearing JD apart just like they did to Travis Alexander.

Y’all are so awesome! I am going through such a hard time right now (family stuff) and this has been a great way to help me focus on other things. I love reading all your comments and insights. I’m glad this forum exists. The reason it exists is unfortunate bc bad people to bad things but there are very few places that are for the victim and this is one.

Hopefully we will get some new stuff to discuss even if it’s just tearing down the stuff Pattis is saying.

Even if an employee had his vehicle that morning, he had other vehicles at his disposal he could've put the plates on, which I've always thought was way more likely than him driving the vehicle JD would recognize down to NC.

 

[Alkali13]

I was one of the people thinking that but I respect your opinion and I get it. I think BECAUSE such tragedy has surrounded him before, I was thinking to myself this is a lot....

I totally get it. Most criminals experiment with other crimes before murder, arson being a big one (MacDonald triad anyone?). I understand everyone's reasoning for thinking so, I just personally don't find it likely, but that's what this forum is for! Discussing all the details that could possibly pertain to a case.

 

[Alkali13]

Pattis is doing what he can right now but it reminds me of whack-a-mole. Every time he tries to control the narrative ie (my client, FD, couldn’t have done this) the prosecution/police (while we don’t know what they have and have been largely silent) can just trout out CCTV, cell phone data, DNA data. It’s fabulous and I will not let whatever Pattis says control the narrative for me. I’m just not susceptible to BS.

Some things Pattis has said over the last 72 hours:

1. FD has no motive to kill Jennifer...Oh really?
I’m of the belief that the state may not have to present a motive especially if they find Jennifer’s remains. But contentious divorce, custody of 5 children and well major financial reasons, etc...there is more than enough just from the little we have all seen to suggest there is a motive.

2. I can account for almost all of that time on May 24th....
Except for three hours. Critical ones where he could easily have driven to NC from Farmington killed JD and driven back.

I could go on and on. Now we are saying that someone else borrowed the truck for a period of time. When was that? During the trashbin and license plate trip? No bc he was seen on video surveillance at 8:10 pm that very evening checking mail. So it must have been when the crime was alleged to have occurred? Really? The only reason you would be disposing of crime scene evidence is bc you did it or hired someone to do it and they failed.

I’m just not going to let Pattis get me down. Or lack of reward money or police asking for search volunteers. They have a very strong case. I admit if there wasn’t a lot of CCTV evidence I wouldn’t feel as confident but I do and I think this may be one of the strongest cases I have folllowed on WebSleuths and that’s saying something. Jodie Arias I felt was a slam dunk but just like in that case it will come down to tearing JD apart just like they did to Travis Alexander.

Y’all are so awesome! I am going through such a hard time right now (family stuff) and this has been a great way to help me focus on other things. I love reading all your comments and insights. I’m glad this forum exists. The reason it exists is unfortunate bc bad people to bad things but there are very few places that are for the victim and this is one.

Hopefully we will get some new stuff to discuss even if it’s just tearing down the stuff Pattis is saying.

Also, hugs. <3

 

[Eli9]

Even if an employee had his vehicle that morning, he had other vehicles at his disposal he could've put the plates on, which I've always thought was way more likely than him driving the vehicle JD would recognize down to NC.

My thought was Pattis was just trying to muddy the CCTV footage which he hasn't even seen BTW. This is the first time I have heard that an employee also drove that truck that day but Pattis said it's been reported so I may have missed it.

 

[Alkali13]

"“The DNA evidence is so powerful and couple that with the surveillance video where the clothing is being disposed of as well as other articles, I think there is going to be a murder arrest in the very near future,” Smith said."

Police Search Connecticut Water Skiing Facility For Clues As Hunt For Missing Jennifer Dulos Continues

I think we can all agree with Smith here, and I'm hoping there's way more evidence we don't know about.

 

[Kalamos23]

This is wildly out there, but what if there was/is a hitman, and FD was supposed to stay away for his alibi.

However, things went sideways, JD mentions to hitman that FD doesn’t have the money to pay him, and hitman plants FD DNA evidence to stick it to FD? Also, this leaves FD with the cleanup. Or hitman cleans up but sloppily because no paycheck, so he just makes sure his DNA isn’t there. FD hears JD is gone, thinks everything is going according to plan and is excited. He doesn’t realize the poop has hit the fan.

Hitman may have carried out the job anyway, (perhaps JD recognizes them so they need to for their own safety?) but this would explain FD’s statement about not leaving any DNA in the house. If FD knew the plan, then he 100% would not want any of his DNA in the house and this might explain why the scene and timeline is weird.

Completely my own conjecture here.

 

[LittleBitty]

So Pattis said that it’s his understandable by that MT took a lie detector test and that she passed. (This might account for the three hour visit):

“I think she’s not given them anything of value,” he said. “What she’s given us is tremendous things of value and that is she wasn’t aware of any foul play.”
Jennifer Dulos case: Norm Pattis says Michelle Troconis passes polygraph

That’s one way to look at it. But MT not participating in the murder or even being unaware of the murder doesn’t make FD innocent or less guilty.

How does Pattis know all this btw? MT and FD attorneys have to be working together.

 

[Caleigh]

For those who can answer, I went back but it would take too long,

1. Did MT work at the Folly Farm where all of the horses died?
2. Did the Dulos children have horses there/ride there?

I am fairly certain MT did not work there. The children did ride horses there. I believe they were "school horses," ie, owned by the farm, and ridden in lessons and horse shows by clients (ie children and others). Typically people become very attached to these horses because they are the "good eggs" that teach beginner riders. IMO.