Silver Alert CT- Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 #8 *ARRESTS*

[Steelslady]

Well, she was alone in the house that morning and he must have known that. He also knew if there were security cameras.

Of course he knew her schedule- he was stalking her. He was also married to her, and don't forget they have kids that are old enough to talk and tell Dad her routine, all in innocence, of course. It could be something simple as "does your Mom do yoga on Monday mornings still?" to get an idea of her schedule. Or he could have had someone else watch her, too.

 

[Herat]

I think he never transported her body in any other car than her own. Or if he did, he had her in something he knew dogs would not be able to trace. I think employees red car was parked somewhere remote, yet close enough to jog to- this was well planned out and MT is the reason he thought he’d get away with it. She was home with his phone making sure she used it as “him”. It’s been done in other cases as well.
I really thought he must have had deep grave dug in advanced, but than he would have buried bags- but someone pointed out(I’ll go back n see who, still new here) bags would float if he put her in water. Still feeling water is too risky. FD seems so smug as if he knows no one will find her. Pond/lake doesn’t assure that. MOO

Your post makes an awful lot of sense, considering FD's "planning".

He's an overplanner. Fixated on lots of details and twists. Using her vehicle would assure her DNA would not be a surprise in the car. The altered license plates, possibly on her vehicle. MT using his phone at home ( was she calling Greece on his behalf?) Using the employee's vehicle.

When you have a complicated plan like this, then you have to be careful of making one change because it can affect everything else.

If this is the case, then MT is also up for life in prison, too, as an accessory before the fact.

He's a planner, alright, but an overplanner. imho. Too liable to little slipups because he has SO much planning.

And I agree the body disposal would be very highly researched and planned. And overplanned

 

[Jmoose]

I think FD's current defense is that he wasn't in NC on the 24th. If he went to JD's home, killed her and then went to his property in NC, where the employee was working, wouldn't the employee be a witness that he was there? A car switch in NC doesn't make sense to me.

Actually, it looks like the switch happened in Farmington after all, according to the unnamed employee. I can’t see how it helped him much to switch trucks, when he drove his own to dump the bloody evidence and doctored license plates.

 

[Michigan]

Very simple question: she is killed in the garage. Why move her body? Why not just leave it there.

If we think about the answer to this question we might learn more about her killer’s motivation.

It’s easy to think about him loading the body into her car inside the garage undetected but how does he dispose of body in broad daylight and get her car to the park and get back to his vehicle? Why bother taking her car to the park at all? What relation does the park have to the location of her body? Is it close or purposefully far to throw everyone off?

Did he know the cleaning lady was coming at noon?

Thank goodness she didn’t arrive earlier.

 

[Michigan]

Actually, it looks like the switch happened in Farmington after all, according to the unnamed employee. I can’t see how it helped him much to switch trucks, when he drove his own to dump the bloody evidence and doctored license plates.

I think because he assumed police would look at surveillance video from her neighborhood once they discovered she was missing. He didn’t want his car or plates on that video. Based on him idiotically bringing his cell with him to dump the evidence he assumed police would have no eyes on him or his vehicle during the evidence dump. Luckily he was wrong about that. MOO

 

[Kapua]

Lets say, FD left a vehicle at the park, jogged to her house, killed her, cleaned up the murder scene, placed JD and crime scene bags into suburban, drove suburban to the park and transferred JD and bags into his vehicle. It it reasonable to think FD was able to accomplish this in daylight without any eye witnesses or security footage?

I would have a hard time describing any of the people who jog past my house, and the houses in that neighborhood are set back. And I believe I read that there are no cameras in the park. So, IMHO, I believe it's possible, under the right circumstances.

 

[BaileeRyce]

Very simple question: she is killed in the garage. Why move her body? Why not just leave it there.

I think the murderer moved her body because he wasn’t expecting to kill her. He was in shock. An “ Oh poo! What do I do now?” type thing.
If the murderer had left the body it would have looked more like a break in.

Bailee
MOO MOO

 

[Mrs. M]

I think the murderer moved her body because he wasn’t expecting to kill her. He was in shock. An “ Oh poo! What do I do now?” type thing.
If the murderer had left the body it would have looked more like a break in.

Bailee
MOO MOO

How did you make your photo small enough to put up as your profile picture? I’ve tried many times but it’s always too big. My kB limit is always over

 

[nyc2015]

I personally don’t care about this bracelet. It isn’t significant IMO. We know it, she is staying loyal, GOODIE. We shouldn’t beat this to death. She is a waste. Honestly. She could have done more and been more. She is right where she belongs.

So agree. I will never believe she had nothing to do with this.

Here is a possible theory. Yes, I realize it probably did NOT happen this way due to JD's fear of him, but what IF FD had contacted JD and/or previously made arrangements, or watched her drop kids off at school and followed her until she stopped at park. But some how, JD met up with FD at the park. Say for example, he then proceeded to tell her a bunch 0f lies like he wanted to try to get along through this divorce, agree to pay GF back some money he borrowed, or whatever his story may have been, and JD got in with him to talk, or he forced her to get in with him, and then he drove to her house, killed her in the garage, put her back in his vehicle and then got rid of the body, which meant then that her Suburban stayed at the park right where she left it??

(Yeah I know, as I mentioned, it probably didn't happen this way since she feared him, unless he forced her into his vehicle).

I've actually thought up something like this as well. Someone in town told me he was already banned from the school grounds. But maybe he did follow her to the park from outside the school lot. Though with an 11am NYC appt. a run in the park could have made her very tight on time. I read how she reconnected with him many years after Brown, she just 'happened to' have bumped into him twice in Aspen. I highly doubt that was coincidence. He knew the money she came from and he is the type to set it up so he could 'bump into' whoever he wants and then charm them.
But still I think she was most likely confronted by him at her home and her car planted there to look like a running path abduction.

 

[Alkali13]

Not remotely caught up because I'm at a concert, but here's an idea of a CT state park I found. This is the one that literally just reopened Friday after storm damage from last year.

 

[Michigan]

I think the murderer moved her body because he wasn’t expecting to kill her. He was in shock. An “ Oh poo! What do I do now?” type thing.
If the murderer had left the body it would have looked more like a break in.

Bailee
MOO MOO

Good point.

Why doesn’t he want it to look like a break in?

Reasons I can think of for moving the body:

+ he doesn’t want his kids to come home and find their mother dead

+ he doesn’t have enough time to establish an alibi if she is found too soon and therefore needs to hide the body / hide the fact that a crime occurred

+ he didn’t mean for the murder to happen this way and panics. (Something about the staining in the garage and the sloppy clean up makes me think it didn’t go the way he planned)

If this was a random crime there wouldn’t be a reason to move the body IMO. The moving of the body points to FD (or someone she knows well) as the killer.

 

[nyc2015]

I think the murderer moved her body because he wasn’t expecting to kill her. He was in shock. An “ Oh poo! What do I do now?” type thing.
If the murderer had left the body it would have looked more like a break in.

Bailee
MOO MOO

I actually tend to think it was planned out. That is why most likely I think her car was put at the park to make investigators search for many hours at Waveny first. Make it look like an abduction because he thought if his wife was found murdered in her home, he is the absolute first police would go to.

 

[Inthedetails]

I think the murderer moved her body because he wasn’t expecting to kill her. He was in shock. An “ Oh poo! What do I do now?” type thing.
If the murderer had left the body it would have looked more like a break in.

Bailee
MOO MOO

If he wasn't expecting to kill her, how do the altered license plates fit in? And why borrow his employee's car?

I guess it's possible he was watching her regularly and used the tactics of someone else's car and fake plates so not to be detected.

And if it was spontaneous and unplanned, he thinks well under pressure to have disposed of her without LE being able to find her.

IDK, of course, but I think it was planned.

jmo

 

[BaileeRyce]

How did you make your photo small enough to put up as your profile picture? I’ve tried many times but it’s always too big. My kB limit is always over

Lol
Photo edit on the computer. Changed the pixel ratio until small enough
I was actually surprised it didn’t distort the photo!

 

[Jen3135]

Just working on a timeline from affidavit here:

9:00 am - 9:30 am - JD on phone call, still alive.
11:00 am - JD missed appointment
12:00 pm - cleaning lady at house (verified? Likely FD gone by that point regardless)
1:00 pm - JD missed second appointment
1 pm or 1:32 pm - FD phone leaves 4 Jefferson Crossing.
1:37 pm - FD phone arrives at 80 Mountain Spring.
3:38 pm - FD phone begins walk from 80 Mountain Spring.
4:17 pm - FD phone arrives at 4 Jefferson Crossing.
5:21 pm - FD phone "arrives" at 80 Mountain Spring.
5:34 pm - FD phone "arrived back" at 4 Jefferson Crossing.
7:00 pm - Report of missing JD given to NCPD.
7:10 pm - FD and MT phones travel to Albany Ave in Hartford. (in Ford Raptor)
7:41 pm - FD phone leaves Hartford.
8:10 pm - FD seen in Ford Raptor at 4 Jefferson Crossing.

Anything I am missing? Odd that Rd's warrant doesn't mention MT back sat his house. Does anyone have a copy of MT's warrant? Eta: the affidavit link above has MT's included, and the language is identical.

Google maps indicates that it is about a 4 minute drive between 4 Jefferson Crossing and 80 Mountain Spring but about a 40 minute walk.

Wait a minute. I had to read this like 10x. Sorry for the language, not sure if this is allowed, but WTF. The whole thing with his phone screams "completely shady, I did it." I just can't figure out if he's a genius or an idiot. I can't. I'm routing so hard for the NCPD and the FBI and all other law enforcement that they have damning evidence. I think they do.

 

[BaileeRyce]

I think an initial planning was involved.

I just don’t think he planned right then and there and/or in the manner it took place.

I think things got out of hand at that given moment, i.e., JD fought back.

Bailee
MOO

 

[Sillybilly]

Can his Instagram be linked? I'd like to see this but I am not familiar with Instagram. I will alert/report my own post so a Mod/Admin can verify if it is okay to link Fotis Instagram and if not, then at least we will know we can't.

Social media accounts of both a victim and a POI/suspect can be linked.

The Rules, including "Social Media - Facebook, Twitter, etc" are linked in my signature.

 

[Kapua]

Very simple question: she is killed in the garage. Why move her body? Why not just leave it there.

If we think about the answer to this question we might learn more about her killer’s motivation.

It’s easy to think about him loading the body into her car inside the garage undetected but how does he dispose of body in broad daylight and get her car to the park and get back to his vehicle? Why bother taking her car to the park at all? What relation does the park have to the location of her body? Is it close or purposefully far to throw everyone off?

Did he know the cleaning lady was coming at noon?

Thank goodness she didn’t arrive earlier.

Why didn't he leave the body there? Because he was trying to stage a "she went jogging at the park, and someone abducted her" scene, deflecting suspicion from the obvious perpetrator - the one with a motive.

As to how he disposed of the body in broad daylight - he either left her at/near her home, brought her to a fairly remote location, or brought her to one of his properties. He also could have waited until nightfall.

Scott Peterson disposed of his wife Laci's body in broad daylight. It's not unheard of.

MOO

 

[Jmoose]

Lets say, FD left a vehicle at the park, jogged to her house, killed her, cleaned up the murder scene, placed JD and crime scene bags into suburban, drove suburban to the park and transferred JD and bags into his vehicle. It it reasonable to think FD was able to accomplish this in daylight without any eye witnesses or security footage?

I am having trouble with the part where JD is transferred from her Suburban to his vehicle at the park. But I think, sometimes, we credit people with the ability to observe and make a mental note; he might just have the nerve to do that in broad daylight, and expect nobody to register it. However, I don’t think he would want to leave to chance the possibility that “Gladys Kravitz” could pick that particular day to be in or near the park and watching him.

 

[LittleBitty]

I would have a hard time describing any of the people who jog past my house, and the houses in that neighborhood are set back. And I believe I read that there are no cameras in the park. So, IMHO, I believe it's possible, under the right circumstances.

Exactly. I live on a busy street with a ton of joggers and bicycle riders. Probably twenty plus or more pass by my house which is also a fairly well traveled neighborhood road. Unless I happened to look up and see a neighbor at all I wouldn’t be able to describe the vast majority of them. My neighborhood is a nice suburb with an HOA and we have front and backyards but the houses are very close to the street like 30 feet or so and probably ten to twenty feet apart. A far cry from the McMansions in New Canaan on Welles Lane. And each one there is on acreage and surrounded by nicely manicured lawns and thick woods.

Now the 69 Welles Lane address in New Canaan is a 7 bedroom, 7.5 bathroom, 7,395 square foot house that sits on 2.5 acres (the equivalent of 12100 yards—think a football field is a like 100 yards) 69 Welles Ln, New Canaan, CT 06840 - realtor.com®
it like all the houses on Welles Lane sit far off the road so none of the neighbors would probably see a jogger/a driver by might see a jogger obviously and called in a tip to NCPD perhaps.