Silver Alert CT- Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 #8 *ARRESTS*

[Herat]

Yeah when did LE start tailing FD? We know he had a tail. Was it the same day (May 25th) when he provided his iPhoneX to LE at 2:47 pm that day? I believe in my heart that Jennifer was disposed of on the 24th. The very last thing MT and FD did was their trashbin odyssey of stupidity in Hartford on the evening of the 24th. I think he knew that evening she had gone missing. Maybe a friend or neighbor saw the Silver Alert and called him? Or LE reached out to him? But he knew I believe when he arrived at home at 8:10 pm on the evening of the 24th he was done with his crime disposal spree. I just cannot fathom him going to New Canaan in the wee hours of the 25th and disposing of JD at his Fore Group, LLC property on 61 Sturbridge Hill. He disposed of her on the 24th that’s I believe.

Why can’t I write short posts? Damn...

You can't write short posts and neither can most people. There are a lot of pieces to put together in this puzzle and it takes mentally moving them around bit by bit. We're all doing the same.

I agree with your observations about the trashbin odyssesy of stupidity being the end of the process, and her body had been disposed of before then. He had planned this out like a military campaign and knew he was going to be the first one approached and searched, so he couldn't have anything quesionable lying around.

Plus, he was going to be very busy on Saturday with Supervised Visitation with his children.

No time to be running an errand to put her body in a creek

 

[Herat]

So if the complete disposal of body and evidence had to happen the same day on that Friday, was the body or body parts in any of the bags? They have bloody clean up debris. Actually I don't think it is that hard to make a body disappear and if I were the killer I would never put it where they are looking. I95 and the Merrit Parkway have dumpsters, there are many around, and being Friday they may or may not be picked up same day. Monday was Memorial Day so no pickups usually.

Builders usually know how to get rid of stuff, not sure why he would be so careless. He could have driven up to New Hampshire with those bags and made them disappear, etc..

Except that he had the children the next day (and possibly several more over Memorial Day if she was missing !)

 

[Jmoose]

I think, as a society, we have developed the ability to be completely oblivious to what is going on around us at any given time. Most of us constantly have our heads down, with a cell phone in hands, and far too few of us suspect suspicious looking activity is really what it seems. A house on my road got emptied completely, during broad daylight a few years ago, when an unmarked box truck pulled up to front door and starting hauling contents out of the house. The few people who passed by and saw it assumed the family was moving out. They weren't. They were being robbed, and all anyone could remember was seeing a big white truck. Too many people don't know their neighbors anymore, and so do not know what is suspicious activity and what is not. JMO

Agree with this-I am continually telling my husband that peoples’ situational awareness is nil. If you don’t believe that, just spend 30 minutes in the grocery store or Home Depot without getting aggravated because 50% of the people there have absolutely no idea that there are other people in the store. That is the only way I can see moving JD from her own car to whichever car FD drove to NC, at the park where anyone could see it happen, but may not mentally question it.

 

[LittleBitty]

FD really wanted people to think she had gone missing. I’m sure he wanted to offer up the night she left with the kids and he called 911 when she tried to get a TRO as some kind of “precedent” that she had run away on the 24th. Then he’d file for custody and get it. That’s why he was so desperate to clean that crime scene bc the messy bloody scene wasn’t in his plan. I’m sure after a small bit of time with adrenaline pumping trying to clean blood off of concrete he abandoned that bc of time and because the blood wasn’t going to disappear. But I’d be willing to be he always knew where he was going to dispose of her body and I’d be shocked if he didn’t follow through on that aspect of his plan.

 

[Herat]

Like all of you I have ideas/theories on when, why, how etc...but I haven’t posted them bc I write them down and read and reread them and immediately begin picking them apart like I’m Pattis.

6. What happened to her cell phone, purse, keys and garage door opener?
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This is where I think he makes a little mistake:

Leaving her Black Suburban at Waveny Park where she would normally go jogging is supposed to direct LE to begin a search there.

So the supposition is that she was attacked when jogging. So she would have her keys and her phone on her. Where was the last place her phone pinged? It wasn't at the park, so why not?

She might not have brought her purse, or she could have left it in the car. Usually when I've been out exercising fairly close to home, I take my driver's license, health insurance card, a bit of cash, but leave the entire purse at home.

So why is the purse missing from either her car or her home?

And- why is the garage door opener missing? ( FD might need it to go back and check out the garage)

And wasn't her blood found in her car?

 

[2cocos]

FD really wanted people to think she had gone missing. I’m sure he wanted to offer up the night she left with the kids and he called 911 when she tried to get a TRO as some kind of “precedent” that she had run away on the 24th. Then he’d file for custody and get it. That’s why he was so desperate to clean that crime scene bc the messy bloody scene wasn’t in his plan. I’m sure after a small bit of time with adrenaline pumping trying to clean blood off of concrete he abandoned that bc of time and because the blood wasn’t going to disappear. But I’d be willing to be he always knew where he was going to dispose of her body and I’d be shocked if he didn’t follow through on that aspect of his plan.

I agree with all of this. Also, he overestimated his ability to control all of the details of his plan and underestimated the cops' ability to see through it. Kind of like he overestimated his ability to build high-end homes without any prior experience in the industry and underestimated people's ability to notice that his designs and competence were lacking. Classic narcissist.

 

[MassGuy]

I agree with all of this. Also, he overestimated his ability to control all of the details of his plan and underestimated the cops' ability to find evidence on him. Kind of like he overestimated his ability to build high-end homes without any prior experience in the industry and underestimated people's willingness to overpay for a poor location and low-end design. Classic narcissist.

In a word, “arrogance.”

 

[clearskies1]

It sounds like LE knew immediately that JD was harmed in her garage and not abducted from Waveny. Per the arrest warrant affidavit, LE arrived at JD's home at around 7 pm on May 24th and saw blood stains in the garage and on a car in the garage. Shortly thereafter, they located her car at Waveny. https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthe...rants/6d596144af51cba22c02/optimized/full.pdf. Given the garage blood stains I doubt that Waveny was much of a diversion for LE. Whether the perpetrator mistakenly believed that the blood had been sufficiently cleaned up, I don't know. JMO.

 

[LittleBitty]

Another fabulous Pattis quote:

“Can you get from Farmington to New Canaan and back and kill somebody and clean up an extensive mess in the garage–that included a lot of blood, and splatter on a couple cars–dispose of a body, dispose of her car,” he told Fox 61. “Can all that really be accomplished in broad daylight in four-and-a-half hours without a witness?”
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Ohhhhh someone other than me pick this apart! I mean I want to so badly but it’s like I’ve posted so much lately people have to be tired to reading my stuff. I’m tired of reading my stuff. Lol! Please someone pick his statement apart!

 

[MassGuy]

Another fabulous Pattis quote:

“Can you get from Farmington to New Canaan and back and kill somebody and clean up an extensive mess in the garage–that included a lot of blood, and splatter on a couple cars–dispose of a body, dispose of her car,” he told Fox 61. “Can all that really be accomplished in broad daylight in four-and-a-half hours without a witness?”
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Ohhhhh someone other than me pick this apart! I mean I want to so badly but it’s like I’ve posted so much lately people have to be tired to reading my stuff. I’m tired of reading my stuff. Lol! Please someone pick his statement apart!

The short answer is “yes.”

Especially if one does a half assed job at the cleanup effort.

You’re talking about an hour and 20 minutes (ish), each way.

It’s enough time, especially considering that he did other things well after that time (that trash dump for instance).

He didn’t say it was impossible, because he knows that it is not.

He is just trying to cast doubt on the whole thing.

Good luck.

 

[Herat]

It sounds like LE knew immediately that JD was harmed in her garage and not abducted from Waveny. Per the arrest warrant affidavit, LE arrived at JD's home at around 7 pm on May 24th and saw blood stains in the garage and on a car in the garage. Shortly thereafter, they located her car at Waveny. https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthe...rants/6d596144af51cba22c02/optimized/full.pdf. Given the garage blood stains I doubt that Waveny was much of a diversion for LE. Whether the perpetrator mistakenly believed that the blood had been sufficiently cleaned up, I don't know. JMO.

MOO
In the scenario that he left the Red Tacoma near Waveny Park and walked through the woods to her house, he must have lain in wait for her to arrive home and slipped in behind the vehicle. Then she was attacked with the door closed and all her vehicles inside the garage. I think he brought a large bag like a waterproof dive bag to put her body in. When he put her body in the Black Suburban, he did some cleanup but missed that there was likely blood UNDER the car, and missed the splatters on one of the other vehicles. Then he got in the car and backed out of the garage, not seeing the bits he'd missed. Closed the garage with the door opener and drove off to the park.

Then parked the car. Walked over to the Red Tacoma and brought it alongside to transfer the bag (s) into the Red Tacoma and left her vehicle.

 

[clearskies1]

Another fabulous Pattis quote:

“Can you get from Farmington to New Canaan and back and kill somebody and clean up an extensive mess in the garage–that included a lot of blood, and splatter on a couple cars–dispose of a body, dispose of her car,” he told Fox 61. “Can all that really be accomplished in broad daylight in four-and-a-half hours without a witness?”
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Ohhhhh someone other than me pick this apart! I mean I want to so badly but it’s like I’ve posted so much lately people have to be tired to reading my stuff. I’m tired of reading my stuff. Lol! Please someone pick his statement apart!

Pattis has a habit of asking questions that we all want his own client to answer. JMO.

 

[Inthedetails]

Another fabulous Pattis quote:

“Can you get from Farmington to New Canaan and back and kill somebody and clean up an extensive mess in the garage–that included a lot of blood, and splatter on a couple cars–dispose of a body, dispose of her car,” he told Fox 61. “Can all that really be accomplished in broad daylight in four-and-a-half hours without a witness?”
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Ohhhhh someone other than me pick this apart! I mean I want to so badly but it’s like I’ve posted so much lately people have to be tired to reading my stuff. I’m tired of reading my stuff. Lol! Please someone pick his statement apart!

Don't hold back. Your posts are awesome.

jmo

 

[ab01]

Another fabulous Pattis quote:

“Can you get from Farmington to New Canaan and back and kill somebody and clean up an extensive mess in the garage–that included a lot of blood, and splatter on a couple cars–dispose of a body, dispose of her car,” he told Fox 61. “Can all that really be accomplished in broad daylight in four-and-a-half hours without a witness?”
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Ohhhhh someone other than me pick this apart! I mean I want to so badly but it’s like I’ve posted so much lately people have to be tired to reading my stuff. I’m tired of reading my stuff. Lol! Please someone pick his statement apart!

Ha short answer

You bet you can and FD proved it

 

[BaileeRyce]

Don't hold back. Your posts are awesome.

jmo

Totally agree!
Well thought out and comprehensive


MOO

 

[MemPat]

Another fabulous Pattis quote:

“Can you get from Farmington to New Canaan and back and kill somebody and clean up an extensive mess in the garage–that included a lot of blood, and splatter on a couple cars–dispose of a body, dispose of her car,” he told Fox 61. “Can all that really be accomplished in broad daylight in four-and-a-half hours without a witness?”
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Ohhhhh someone other than me pick this apart! I mean I want to so badly but it’s like I’ve posted so much lately people have to be tired to reading my stuff. I’m tired of reading my stuff. Lol! Please someone pick his statement apart!

The simple explanation of this statement is that there is no denial in it.

If the accused will not say explicitly that he did not do the crime, we can't say it for him.

That's the main rule of Statement Analysis and how you can tell someone is probably guilty right off the bat.

May I add that I must have missed something? Has LE mentioned blood-spattered cars?

 

[skyedaze]

The short answer is “yes.”

Especially if one does a half assed job at the cleanup effort.

You’re talking about an hour and 20 minutes (ish), each way.

It’s enough time, especially considering that he did other things well after that time (that trash dump for instance).

He didn’t say it was impossible, because he knows that it is not.

He is just trying to cast doubt on the whole thing.

Good luck.

Yeah just ask Krystal Kenny or Patrick Frazee

 

[2cocos]

I know that LE has a lot more information than we do, but I feel like there are so many ways and places he could have disposed of her body, it's almost overwhelming. I'm trying, in my head, to narrow down the possible locations. We already know he is arrogant and not as smart as he thinks he is, so his smug demeanor does not necessarily mean that she is unfindable. Unless her body parts were in those other garbage bags LE was unable to recover...

I think that the doctored plates are going to be key (lucky break for LE), and very important for tracking his movements throughout the day. I don't think he would have taken (many) side roads because of time. Therefore, he possibly drove down the main highways, thinking the doctored plates would obscure his identity, and was caught on camera.

Unfortunately, no amount of time and effort trying to locate her body will bring back the mother of those 5 children.
JMO

 

[MassGuy]

The simple explanation of this statement is that there is no denial in it.

If the accused will not say explicitly that he did not do the crime, we can't say it for him.

That's the main rule of Statement Analysis and how you can tell someone is probably guilty right off the bat.

May I add that I must have missed something? Has LE mentioned blood-spattered cars?

Exactly. That sure as hell isn’t a denial.

Blood was found on a car in the garage.

According to the affidavit, when police responded to Jennifer Dulos' residence after she was reported missing, they found several stains on the garage floor and a vehicle parked in the garage with what appeared to be bloodstains as well as evidence of attempts to clean the crime scene.

Blood Found in Home of Missing CT Mom, Affidavit Reveals

 

[Deleted member 229974]

In a word, “arrogance.”

In another word, “psychopath”.