Silver Alert CT- Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 #9 *ARRESTS*

[Dmcp]

Exactly the same question that JD was asking repeatedly in court! Judge Heller or anyone at Family Court seemed to do nothing to try to figure any of this out so far as I can tell reading the documents.

I honestly think we've come up with more info here on WS than most of what I've seen in Family Court! Some of the documents were sealed but I think these related to children and doctors etc. rather than financial matters.

http://civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov/DocumentInquiry/DocumentInquiry.aspx?DocumentNo=13921173 FD borrowed $1.5Million for the purchase of 183 Hemlock Hill from HF.

 

[indicolite22]

Maybe he didn’t know; I wonder if it wasn’t the first day he waited for her to come back after dropping off the kids. He had traded his truck with the “employee’s” truck all week, I think I read. Could it be that Friday 5/24 was just the day he finally caught her there?

Did he know that his children were going to be taken to their grandmother's in NYC that day? Did he think she'd just hand them over to him after their mother and her daughter went missing? (I'm aware that he tried to see them a couple of days later.)

 

[MemPat]

It is a good idea and many people adjust the seat out of habit - I like my seat close to the steering wheel and when others drive my car (same height) it is always too far back. He could have done it and I hope they have swabbed every inch of her SUV - we know how sloppy his clean up has been IMO

Another place I've seen LE check for fingerprints is the back of the rear view mirror as perps adjust it and forget to wipe it down.

 

[oviedo]

Keep in mind we have heard ZERO about the state of her car. Was anything awry/missing? To me they are keeping this quiet for a reason. Were there traces of blood? Hair or fiber or DNA from other people? I sure hope so. The whole search of the landfill has left me cold.

Yes and a stock photo was used on the flyer. Her SUV could have sustained damage - we discussed this upthread. We just don't know a whole lot about this matter IMO. The arrest warrant and a few leaks.

 

[enelram]

But how did he move it? How much would a barrel full of cement weigh?

But remember barrels are round, could easily be rolled out of the bed of a pickup. On the ground, once you push and start the barrel rolling, and keep it rolling, it wouldn't be hard. But if he were smart, he'd back the pickup to the hole and push the barrel into it.

 

[Jmoose]

Let's say that FD buried JD in a pre-dug grave. Why didn't he put the bloodied clothing/supplies in there too? (He could potentially have gotten away with it.) Because he hoped that, if she was ever found, there would still be an option that she was abducted from the park? In that case she'd probably be closer to NC than Farmington, thought he would likely find it easier to dig around Farmington.

I think the conventional wisdom was that if he separated that stuff from her, it was supposed to deflect attention from him as a suspect. I don’t see how, though; he would always be the main focus of their attention.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

What is the most important single evidence that is missing so far, apart from finding JD's body, that would help convict FD of murder? Placing him in NC on the morning?

Opportunity.
jmo

 

[indicolite22]

He said their arrests were a way to get them to turn on each other? How about their arrests were because of an alleged crime that LE thought they committed. You are right-there is no reason to worry about them turning on each other (and that supposes that they both did something wrong, and not just one of them), if they didn’t do anything, and they have the ironclad alibis he claims they do.

Let's say they were both innocent and had separate alibis that they couldn't prove. Technically they could have started suspecting each other, but I don't think that's what happened here.

 

[sds71]

New Haven Register (@nhregister) on Twitter
There are still unknowns," he said. "It would be inappropriate to try and predict when that aspect of the investigation will be done. The Connecticut State Police Major Crimes detectives can not be too careful."

Foley declined to discuss what evidence may have been culled from the mounds of trash.
Jennifer Dulos search: ‘There are still unknowns’ in Hartford trash

 

[sun16]

In regards to LE having more damning evidence — then why didn’t they use it for the bond hearing? They had a chance to get his bond raised or eliminated and keep him in jail. They should have used very strong evidence for that, but only used his DNA on kitchen faucet. That wasn’t enough for the judge. They had to have known it wouldn’t be. So, did they not want to reveal stronger evidence? Or is the DNA on the faucet the best they’ve got?

 

[MassGuy]

New Haven Register (@nhregister) on Twitter
There are still unknowns," he said. "It would be inappropriate to try and predict when that aspect of the investigation will be done. The Connecticut State Police Major Crimes detectives can not be too careful."

Foley declined to discuss what evidence may have been culled from the mounds of trash.

Which is different from what we heard yesterday.

This is encouraging, as it means that the search is not over.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

In regards to LE having more damning evidence — then why didn’t they use it for the bond hearing? They had a chance to get his bond raised or eliminated and keep him in jail. They should have used very strong evidence for that, but only used his DNA on kitchen faucet. That wasn’t enough for the judge. They had to have known it wouldn’t be. So, did they not want to reveal stronger evidence? Or is the DNA on the faucet the best they’ve got?

At this point, it doesn't appear they have enough to bring murder charges forward and if they do they don't think it's strong enough for a conviction.
jmo

 

[Alkali13]

Did he know that his children were going to be taken to their grandmother's in NYC that day? Did he think she'd just hand them over to him after their mother and her daughter went missing? (I'm aware that he tried to see them a couple of days later.)

In my head, I can't imagine he didn't know. He saw the kids two days before; I would imagine one of them mentioned it.

 

[Southernsnooper]

I've wondered about this - if JD pulled her car into the garage and was blitz attacked when she got out - and if the Porsche was parked in the farthest away spot (3 stall garage) and it had spatter - that's quite a ways to travel which indicates to me alot of force. And the floor between the vehicles would have a lot as well. Now if the Porsche was next to her space and she pulled in - the Porsche would catch alot since it is in the way of the floor and the spatter would hit that first I would think? Wish we knew the position of that car and if her car ever made it into the garage. JMO

This is what I don’t understand... her Suburban couldn’t have blood spatter on it parked in the garage for LE to see as it was at the park when they searched, right? The nanny had the Range Rover. The Porsche was one and what’s the second one?

 

[Passion4Volunteerism]

Work in progress

Working on the timeline:
JD and FD graduate College
2004 - JD and FD marry (FD leaves Ersnt & Young CapGemini consulting and creates Fore Group)
2017 -
March - JD learned of affair with MT.
May - FD threatens to kidnap children if JD does not agree to his terms for divorce, FD buys gun
June 3 - JD outlines incident at home where FD threatens her
June - JD takes children and leaves FD (tells him they are visiting her fathers grave) FD calls 911 and says he can’t get reach his wife 911 calls: Fotis Dulos called police after wife leaves home in 2017
Dec 17 - FD emails JD about getting along for the sake of the children
When Jennifer served him with divorce papers on June 20, 2017, Fotis was ordered to “maintain existing” family medical coverage.

But by November of that year, Jennifer complained in a court filing that the family’s health insurance lapsed “due to defendant’s [Fotis’] failure to pay” and that she was “unable to take the children to certain medical appointments” — to which Fotis allegedly replied she should “pay out of pocket.”
https://nypost.com/2019/05/30/kin-o...-mom-blocks-estranged-hubby-from-seeing-kids/
2019
Divorce litigaiton and custody:
In March 2018, the court denied FD access to the children, saying there was “an immediate and present risk of psychological harm to the children if they have unrestricted and unsupervised contact with the defendant, as well as a risk of physical danger.”
The court also said he had a history of lying under oath and had encouraged the children to lie on his behalf.
However, the court reversed its decision and found it in the children’s best interest to implement supervised parenting time.
After the court granted FD supervised visitation this February, he and JD could not reach an agreement on a schedule. In March, Judge Donna Heller granted FD supervised visitation every other weekend, starting March 30. He was allotted seven hours on Saturdays in Fairfield County and six hours on Sundays in Hartford County, which could take place at the Farmington house. FD was also granted three hours of visitation on Wednesdays in Fairfield County.
Warrant: Jennifer Dulos’ blood-stained items tossed by estranged husband, his girlfriend
May 22 - FD is at the home of JD (dinner) and comments about DNA being found
In March, Judge Donna Heller granted FD supervised visitation every other weekend, starting March 30. He was allotted seven hours on Saturdays in Fairfield County and six hours on Sundays in Hartford County, which could take place at the Farmington house. FD was also granted three hours of visitation on Wednesdays in Fairfield County.
Warrant: Jennifer Dulos’ blood-stained items tossed by estranged husband, his girlfriend
May 24 - JD drops children at school (8amreported) and speaks to a friend after drop off (no time reported just that it’s after drop off of kids) JD misses two appointments in the city - 11am and 1 pm

Nanny picks up children and drives them to NYC to JD's mother's apartment - no time reported

7pm - JD is reported missing by mother and friend
NC police go to JD's house, knock and get no answer. Nanny apparently gives code to unlock door since she has been continuously with the children and is at the NYC apartment according to JD's mom's motion to intervene filed in the custody matter

NCPD find blood in the garage. "serious physical assault" in her garage, where blood stains and blood spatter were found according to arrest warrant later issued

NCPD find her 2017 Suburban at Waveny Park that evening (no time indicated)
Silver alert issued - various reports on time - sometime after 7pm
CCTV footage in Hartford shows FD and MT on Albany St this very evening (5/24) and their phones ping (arrest warrant)19:10

8pm ish - neighbor has video showing FD and truck stopping at mailbox and retrieving mail -20:10

May 25
FD turns in phone together with his attorney to NC police at NCPD 14:47 According to a tweet, he is followed at some point up until the arrest

May 29 - FD attempts to see children at NYC apartment but is turned away- much speculation about security and "armed guard"
Need date:
A hearing had been scheduled for Wednesday morning regarding the "safety of the children," who are between the ages 8 and 13, following a motion filed by a court-appointed guardian, theConnecticut Post reported. Hearing is cancelled

May 31 - LE in Hartford attempting to retrieve garbage bags dumped by FD and MT (CCTV shows them dumping 30 bags? And making 30 stops along a 4 mile stretch of Albany ave and cell phone pings (both MT and FD) match this route. Altered license plates are recovered that were stuffed down a storm drain in a fedex box. Plates were from a vehicle previously owned by FD all on 5/24)

FD provided DNA and hair samples, Troop L barracks in Litchfield a source told the Hartford Courant.


June 1
FD and MT charged with tampering with or fabricating physical evidence and hindering prosecution
clothes and sponges with JDs' blood were found in trash cans in Hartford, where the documents said surveillance cameras captured a man appearing to be FD disposing of garbage bags in multiple receptacles, according to the documents. A woman in the passenger seat of the man's car fit the appearance of MT, according to the documents.

June _ - MT posts bail and is released
June 3
Dogs trained in electronics are searching Waveny Park (JD's car was found there 5/24)

June 4
Custody of the children- GF has temporary custody

June 11 hearingFotis Dulos out on bail; prosecutor says his DNA found in Jennifer Dulos’ home
COURT APPEARANCES: Michelle Troconis and Fotis Dulos

June 12 - FD posts bail and attends custody hearing where he pleads the 5th. Ankle monitor, no contact with children and must stay in CT. Rents car as all vehicles seized by LE. Uses 401 k to post bond

Avon Park Search begins with boats
State police search water skiing pond in Avon that Fotis Dulos frequented as search for Jennifer Farber Dulos enters 20th day
June 13
Avon Park pond search continues

Report of employee using FDs truck and FD using his - vehicle turned over to LE
Also, this car wash is just 2.2 miles / 6 minutes from the Avon pond. LE reportedly at car wash
Police Searching New Car Of Interest In Missing Jennifer Dulos' Case

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June 14
Search in pond but nothing reported
WS has a live person on the ground at the new search today - media is just arriving
@happyperson
Oh wow just got closer and saw they launched a boat

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FD files motion for return of evidence seized - 2 phones, computer, server, 3 vehicles- Raptor, a Chevrolet Suburban, a Cherokee
Fotis Dulos files motion to get back evidence seized
Note- garbage plant as been searched daily
State police return to Hartford trash facility to search for Jennifer Dulos
Sources:
https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthe...rants/6d596144af51cba22c02/optimized/full.pdf
A Connecticut mystery: A timeline of the disappearance of a mom of 5
Police search Avon pond in connection with missing mother case
Warrant: Jennifer Dulos’ blood-stained items tossed by estranged husband, his girlfriend
New Lead Emerges In Search For Missing New Canaan Mom
Police Searching New Car Of Interest In Missing Jennifer Dulos' Case

From brown.edu:
Jennifer Farber Dulos '90
Fotis Dulos '89

The time frame for the vehicle exchange, according to Hartford Courant was 4pm-5:30.
The events of May 24, the last day Jennifer Farber Dulos was seen alive, are a key element of the investigation into her disappearance

Perhaps to be added:
May 25, around 5am - Neighbors hear loud bangs coming from FD's Sturbridge Hill Road property in NC.

First post - regarding 5/25 at approximately 5:00 AM. Do we have any clarification whether this was a one-time loud bang or a constant banging?

 

[Tippy Lynn]

First post - regarding 5/25 at approximately 5:00 AM. Do we have any clarification whether this was a one-time loud bang or a constant banging?

welcome - it's good to have you here!

 

[indicolite22]

In regards to LE having more damning evidence — then why didn’t they use it for the bond hearing? They had a chance to get his bond raised or eliminated and keep him in jail. They should have used very strong evidence for that, but only used his DNA on kitchen faucet. That wasn’t enough for the judge. They had to have known it wouldn’t be. So, did they not want to reveal stronger evidence? Or is the DNA on the faucet the best they’ve got?

They want to keep their cards close to the vest for as long as possible. FD isn't going to do any more damage while he's out.

 

[MemPat]

My thought was he buried it right in the ground. JMO

It's unfortunate that one of the ways they nail a perp who has murdered someone and disposed of the body is through his purchases to aid the process.....the tarp, gloves, shovel, lime, cement, bleach, plastic bags.....all things FD would already have on hand for the construction business.

We probably will have to miss the timed and dated Walmart video with the dummy using his credit card but wouldn't it be fun?!

 

[kimch33kim]

This is what I don’t understand... her Suburban couldn’t have blood spatter on it parked in the garage for LE to see as it was at the park when they searched, right? The nanny had the Range Rover. The Porsche was one and what’s the second one?

Thats why I asked if the nanny had full privileges to the LR. Or if the nanny had to drop off her car and switch to the LR

 

[Jmoose]

That’s true about many surveillance camera images of being low quality.

What law enforcement has going for it here, is the camera system in place in Hartford.

These are going to be high quality videos, and have already paid dividends.

Law enforcement can lie to suspects, but that doesn’t work if they’ve already lawyered up.

FD won’t ever speak to law enforcement.

You could stay out of jail for a long time if you refuse to speak to LE, and they don’t have incontrovertible evidence against you. There are tons of cases here where that’s happened. NP must be thrilled that FD hasn’t talked to the police so far.