Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #16

[Mimi in London]

Me thinks something is not right here.
And there is no way in hell even Doofus put an unconcealed soaking bloody pillow in the trash. With the knife underneath. Umm he just put a boxed package in a storm drain... guess he forgot to throw the knife in there, let alone wipe it off.

ETA RSBM for focus

This is the thing. Isn’t it still the general consensus that (unless they were throwing drug-fuelled caution to the wind) this was FD setting up someone else to take the rap?

If so, wouldn’t it follow that he wouldn’t want to risk the items NOT being found? If he’s managed to plant DNA or, say, use a knife/pillow belonging to A N Other, he’s not going to bag those items up
too tightly.

IMO

 

[Bulldogs2]

I wonder if LE was able to get hold of this guys pants. That he wiped the blood from the pillow on. And ID that blood. And was the bloody pillow and knife in a bag?
LE has more bloody items from the trash run than we know. They’re letting it out slowly. The T-shirt and bra one day. The knife and pillow the next. Poking fun at NP for asking charges to be dismissed, really, nothing incriminating in that trash run at all, right NP?

And now we know a knife was used. Wonder if the blood spatter in the garage matches up with a knife attack/stabbing.

A blood soaked pillow, hmm. Either 1)JD had it packed in the car in Welles Lane garage to take to NYC and FD grabbed it ,or 2) FD used it as part of a dismembering operation at 80MS to soak up blood.
Wonder if FD has similar pillows at 4JC or JD has ones matching that description. Sounds generic but not too generic. Hope that guys memory for detail is clear given his crack addiction. Sounds like LE had the description of this scenario early on before they searched Albany Ave on 5/31, giving them info to use in the searches at 4JC and 80MS that weekend.

I’m concerned that NP will trash this witness. He could say the witness can’t remember if the knife had blood on it but then he remembered what the pillow looked like.

 

[Bulldogs2]

Very specific description of the pillow that LE should be able to trace. If what this witness is saying is true, and it appears to have been corroborated by the video, this is a significant piece of information.

Good thing the cameras picked up this guy rummaging thru the trash

 

[Bulldogs2]

i am not a body language- disclaimer!, however (the video the day LE was there at 4JX questioning FD, MT, when her nanny and daughter were there) when FD got out of his black suburban, how he closed his suv door, he flicked his wrist to shut it- very intense and angry..besides all his other body language that day, with his tom cruise heels on....the way he shut the suv door- that left an impression on me- pissed he is having to deal with this, it didn't just go away as he 'planned'...

Yes I noticed that as well. He was angry.

 

[Bulldogs2]

RSBM

What significance could be attached to the blood on the pillow still being wet at that time of the evening? Maybe none as there was so much of it, and it wasn’t yet the height of summer, so would take time to dry.

Also, can forensics tell whether blood was from time of death or from some hours later?

Hmmm. Perhaps he dismembered- difficult to say this- her at MS,dis some clean g there too - we know he was there for a few hours- then put the parts and stuff in bags and dumped them 6:30-7pm. The blood may still be wet at that time if the man went thru the dumpster very soon after it was dumped.

 

[Bulldogs2]

So The Courant reporter was able to talk directly
to the knife finder man. Great connections this
reporter has.
Sounds like knife finder man may be in hidden
location according to the article. Wouldn't want to be in his shoes right now. Fudge may also be looking for him as well as FD.
Now we know why FD is so familiar with this hood, it's where he buys his drugs.

I hope LE has hooked up knifefinder man with
the local methadone clinic to get him clean so
he can be a more credible witness at trial.
Nothing worse than an active crack addict testifying.

Yes I too hope he’s getting help.

 

[afitzy]

BBM. Agree. MSM has been all over the board. Many times it turns out that the tabloids have been dead on.

A couple things.

Did we ever establish how much video could have been possible on the route from JD's home to Waveny Park?
-Don't believe there is any town video so the reliance would have been on people turning in their CCTV. I just recently learned in the discussion about the cameras in Waveny that there are 3 cameras at Waveny Pool. But I don't see those helping too much here as they wouldn't capture anything near where the JD car was left IMO. I don't know where exactly the cameras are located but my suspicion is that they are inside the actual pool area to cover the pool.
The four mile trek on Albany Ave. Did it begin in West Hartford or did it extend further into the city after Hartford?

Gap in arrest warrant timestamps on phone is possible:
17:34 back at 4Jx from 80 MS
19:10 Dulos traveled to the area of Albany Ave in the North End of Hartford. Traveled with MT over a 4 mile stretch of Albany between Biltmore and Edward
19:41 Dulos handset left the Hartford area and returned to 4Jx
20:12 Dulos arrives back at 4Jx at stops to get mail at mouth of driveway (timing of return via captured video from neighbor CCTV).



FBI was involved early. Are they still involved? My guess is yes.
-agree

And the next town cop's comment just says it all.
Coward versus a woman.
-agree
MOO.

 

[citygirl]

So sorry! I said something like this without having read yours first.

Totally with you, Girl!

 

[Jmoose]

I am going with MT is the one who is more in the know about drugs. Imo MT looks like she has had a quite a few drugged days in her past. I think she looks in her mid 50s rather than her mid 40s. Even in pics where she is all done up she looks old. I was actually shocked at her appearance when I first saw her. JD was such a beautiful and attractive woman I thought the younger replacement was going to be a stunner. I was sure wrong about that.

I know what you mean-rather than commenting on whether or not someone is a beauty, I would prefer to comment on the healthiness of her looks. MT does not have the look of a person who is living a healthy life. It wouldn’t surprise me at all to find out that she might have a drug problem. She definitely has the look of a person who is quite a bit older than 44.

 

[citygirl]

I’m concerned that NP will trash this witness. He could say the witness can’t remember if the knife had blood on it but then he remembered what the pillow looked like.

No doubt NP will try to tear him to shreds. But who is to say LE will ever need to call him? And, who is to say a jury wouldn't believe this man? Too early to tell.

 

[citygirl]

Good thing the cameras picked up this guy rummaging thru the trash

And, we are left to ponder how many other people do they have on video?

 

[On It]

Hi all- I’m new here bit have been following you guys for a while. I too left a controlling wealthy man and have been fighting in court for custody and everything under the sun for over five years....anyway I thought of something this morning. NP keeps saying there are phone records to prove FD was on a phone call to Greece the morning JD disappeared but couldn’t he have called Greece (or vice-versa) and then simply left the phone lie on a table while he went to JD house? Obviously the other person in Greece was aware this was happening but he probably thought they live in Greece they will never be forced to talk to police.

Also this KM situation has me wondering if KM somehow tried to broker a meeting for FD and reached out on his behalf. Also and this may be a stretch bit because of this new evidence of the pillow I wonder if FD too tried to reach out to JD. Maybe they met in the park that morning and she got into KM’s car where FD was waiting. I don’t know but a pillow... could he too like KM pretended to want to reconcile tried to pretend he was remorseful and JD let him in and my e he tried to get amorous with her. I know it is a stretch but I spent 20 years with my wealthy good looking narcopath and you have no idea how persuasive and manipulative they are. It also seems to me by the description a possible boys room pillow. Pottery barn or something. I definitely feel there is a possible connection with KM “being indebted and controlled” by FD that same week JD disappeared and FD reached out to his ex. You help me and I’ll help you kind of thing. I thank God I am alive today. I think of Jennifer and her children everyday.

 

[enelram]

ETA RSBM for focus

This is the thing. Isn’t it still the general consensus that (unless they were throwing drug-fuelled caution to the wind) this was FD setting up someone else to take the rap?

If so, wouldn’t it follow that he wouldn’t want to risk the items NOT being found? If he’s managed to plant DNA or, say, use a knife/pillow belonging to A N Other, he’s not going to bag those items up
too tightly.

IMO

agree, I think his plan was to find some poor doofus to take the knife home- as long as it's
in a private place, it's not at the MIRA or where
it would be found. Pre-planned.

 

[Bulldogs2]

When I saw The Art of War by Sun Tzu mention here, I thought oh no not another lover of that book. I had a very hostile divorce from ex. I purchased my home and slept with knife under my pillow for quite awhile. Very ugly, and ex loved The Art of War.

Can someone please e lighten me as to what that is? Thank you

 

[Chicago54]

No doubt NP will try to tear him to shreds. But who is to say LE will ever need to call him? And, who is to say a jury wouldn't believe this man? Too early to tell.

And talk about circumstantial NON -evidence. If LE doesn’t have the pillow, the knife, the pants-so what? It is meaningless IMO.
Unless they have FD on tape putting that pillow in, and dumpster diver pulling exact same pillow out, maybe the finder could testify as to what he believed was on it....LR has the tapes showing FD dumping bags, along with the countless others who put their trash out that weekend. I just don’t see any additional, if any at all, evidentiary value here...so far.

 

[Bulldogs2]

Yeah, this is such a crime riddled area, I'm sure
local LE knows exactly who Fudge is.
There's quite an underground web of players
in the world of street drugs. Plus with undercover cops infiltrating these social
networks and the snitches, they're all well known.

There has been a community police station on Albany ave for many years. My guess is that the LE knows everyone around there,

 

[Bulldogs2]

Hi all- I’m new here bit have been following you guys for a while. I too left a controlling wealthy man and have been fighting in court for custody and everything under the sun for over five years....anyway I thought of something this morning. NP keeps saying there are phone records to prove FD was on a phone call to Greece the morning JD disappeared but couldn’t he have called Greece (or vice-versa) and then simply left the phone lie on a table while he went to JD house? Obviously the other person in Greece was aware this was happening but he probably thought they live in Greece they will never be forced to talk to police.

Also this KM situation has me wondering if KM somehow tried to broker a meeting for FD and reached out on his behalf. Also and this may be a stretch bit because of this new evidence of the pillow I wonder if FD too tried to reach out to JD. Maybe they met in the park that morning and she got into KM’s car where FD was waiting. I don’t know but a pillow... could he too like KM pretended to want to reconcile tried to pretend he was remorseful and JD let him in and my e he tried to get amorous with her. I know it is a stretch but I spent 20 years with my wealthy good looking narcopath and you have no idea how persuasive and manipulative they are. It also seems to me by the description a possible boys room pillow. Pottery barn or something. I definitely feel there is a possible connection with KM “being indebted and controlled” by FD that same week JD disappeared and FD reached out to his ex. You help me and I’ll help you kind of thing. I thank God I am alive today. I think of Jennifer and her children everyday.

Welcome! Glad you are here and away from that narcopath- love that word. Thank god you got away. You’re right. They are so charming and insidious that one may not know what’s actually going on. They fool a lot of people.

 

[afitzy]

The pillow and knife could have been the only items in a smaller white bathroom bag and was not knotted shut, so that when the man reached into the dumpster, he was able to reach right into the bag.
If he killed her in the shower or bathroom, he would have had a bag available right there. Also if he had to get rid of towels, bath mat, sheets or blankets that he wrapped her in so he could carry her down to the garage, that goes a long way to filling 30 bags for disposal. It also accounts for blood on the bra and tee shirt. MOO MOO

Just wanted to put the arrest warrant section that deals with the stops and bags into the thread.

-30 stops made by FD/MT as they made trip down Albany Ave
-Unknown number of bags


I have to admit that I am still somewhat confused by what happened with the bags. We don't know the number of bags but the wording in the arrest warrant makes it seem like FD was placing whole bags into trash cans. Originally I had thought that at each stop he was opening a bag and only emptying part of the contents into the trash can and then moving on to put the rest of the bag contents into another trash can. Maybe what he was doing was a mix of jamming whole bags into trash cans and for other bags he would distribute the contents over multiple cans.

Curious what other folks thing about this wording in the arrest warrant. I know we went over this many many threads ago but now reading it again I'm seeing it slightly differently and wonder if there were possibly many more bags than we originally thought? I just remember No Case Norm getting quite testy when one of the reporters said "30 bags" and Pattis snapped back that it wasn't 30 bags!! But I wonder if there could have been closer to 30 bags than we might have all thought possible?

 

[Bulldogs2]

Incredible article! Kudos to HC and the writer on this incredible 'scoop'.

Quote from HC article:
"Sources have verified that there is video surveillance of the man reaching into the garbage can and removing items the weekend Farber Dulos disappeared. They also confirmed a statement was taken from him before state police conducted a massive search on May 31 with dogs and troopers in the Albany Avenue area".

Looks like this tragic story of Clue might just be reaching the time for additional charges to be filed. Or we can only hope.

Looks like we might so far have FD/Player to be named later, in the garage, at Welles, with a knife. Motive, Crime Scene, Weapon.

Trigger warning here:

I don't know much about knife violence and blood splatter. Has anyone else seen this in another case? The assumption so far if I recall was blunt force trauma.

Wonder if the next news to drop is info about body?

So many details to sort out in the story but it seems like the basics are starting to come together for the State.

I think he used the knife to dismember her not as a murder weapon

 

[Bulldogs2]

That kind of describes what MT was wearing when she was arrested

Yup. That blue and white striped polo shirt. She also wore that to her first hearing