Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #16

[Bulldogs2]

The book and movie mentioned earlier about
"Strangers on A Train" circa 1950,
is that story. Worth looking up on google.

I love that film noir movie!

 

[Bulldogs2]

It’s IS interesting that FD had such a sudden interest in getting them back together. And seemed kind of intense calling her the next 2 days. She obviously had a good hunch to get wary from there. Why would he invite her back to his home? I’m not buying it. He’s only interested in doing things that help HIM out- not other people.

Something had to be in it for him to intervene. Wonder what that was.

 

[sleuth66]

sleuth66, thanks for the trip down Memory Lane! It helps me feel the fear that must have engulfed FD with that first ring of the fancy doorbell......the sound of justice coming. ('Throw your velvet jacket into a garbage bag, dude, and head on down to the Residence Inn while we tear this place apart.")

I can imagine that when FD saw on the news on Friday 5/31 afternoon that they were searching the drain in front of the Jamaican bakery on Albany Avenue, he realized they were onto them. I remember on the news that day seeing the fire truck, ambulance, and red tarp, laid out at the sewer drain in front of the bakery. He must have been #$& in his pants when he saw that. Then they announced in the media they hadn’t found anything there (very strategic) and he probably bounced back to his superpower smarter than all you, see there, mode, but of course they had found something and that night they came to take his DNA. We all know his demeanor then from the widely listed videos.

 

[oviedo]

Something had to be in it for him to intervene. Wonder what that was.

And in the same week he confronted his wife and very likely killed her - I think it’s related JMO

 

[Bulldogs2]

IIRC, Judge Heller noted in her custody order that FD had zero regard or respect for directions or restrictions from the court. If nothing else, he can be counted on to do exactly what is is told not to do.

He has no regard for societal rules. Not only is he a narcissist, he is a classic sociopath.

 

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Wow. Wow. Wow. The plot continues to thi

Something had to be in it for him to intervene. Wonder what that was.

Thank God she followed her gut instinct and stayed away.

 

[oviedo]

I can imagine that when FD saw on the news on Friday 5/31 afternoon that they were searching the drain in front of the Jamaican bakery on Albany Avenue, he realized they were onto them. I remember on the news that day seeing the fire truck, ambulance, and red tarp, laid out at the sewer drain in front of the bakery. He must have been #$& in his pants when he saw that. Then they announced in the media they hadn’t found anything there (very strategic) and he probably bounced back to his superpower smarter than all you, see there, mode, but of course they had found something and that night they came to take his DNA. We all know his demeanor then from the widely listed videos.

And we now may know that in one of the bags they recovered prior to going to the dump was her T-shirt /bra - mops and who knows what else ? I’ve always thought there was something found that encouraged them to sift through the garbage center for so long JMO

 

[sds71]

Farber vs fore group
Notice Content:
Notice Issued: 08/02/2019
Docket Number: HHD-CV-18-6088970-S
Case Caption: FARBER, GLORIA, EXECUTOR OF THE ESTATE OF HILLIARD v. FORE GROUP, INC. Et Al
Notice Sequence #: 1
JDNO NOTICE

09/06/2019 AT 10:00AM

A HEARING IS SCHEDULED FOR THE ABOVE DATE &
TIME. PARTIES AND THEIR COUNSEL SHALL REPORT
TO CASEFLOW, ROOM 111. FAILURE TO APPEAR WILL
RESULT IN DISMISSAL OR DEFAULT.

ANY MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE SHALL BE MADE ON
FORM JD-CV-21 NOT LESS THAN 3 COURT DAYS IN
ADVANCE AND WILL NOT BE GRANTED ABSENT GOOD
CAUSE AND ALL PARTIES' CONSENT TO A PROXIMAL
CONTINUANCE DATE.
PER THE HONORABLE DAVID M. SHERIDAN, PJ
http://civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov/CaseDetail/PublicCaseDetail.aspx?DocketNo=FSTFA175016797S

 

[sleuth66]

The videos on UK Daily Mail don't fit with their reporting.
Looks like FD arrived, clad in jeans, in MT's white SUV.
We see him pacing outside his home in jeans.
Then later we see him in different clothing getting into his rented black SUV.
IMO they were taken by surprise.
Estranged husband of missing Connecticut mother-of-five is questioned by police | Daily Mail Online

I watched this video again, obviously it’s clips pasted together. To me it looks like FD arrives in his cargo shorts and T-shirt with his signature camelback, in the rented black SUV, and is all stressed and irritated with LE who’ s speaking to him as he gets out and slams the door.
The next clip is indeed FD getting out of MTs white Cherokee wearing a change of clothes, now jeans and boots and looking a bit more cleaned up. Same outfit shown with him pacing and crossing arms. I don’t think this is the arrival though, I think he had gotten into the white Cherokee with the driver, presumably the nanny, to detail where they were supposed to go and what the instructions were (probably to head to the Residence Inn, some said the MT nanny was to take the daughter to her home, but they needed to coordinate on a plan). They didn’t catch FD getting in to the Cherokee, just getting out.
I think this because when FD gets out of the Cherokee it starts to drive away, and then FD in his jeans and boots gets into the rented car with MT and drives away following the white Cherokee and you see the trail of LE vehicles leaving with them out JC.
This would be consistent with the reporting in the text.

 

[MemPat]

Feel the same way. Very encouraged and believe there is much to come. If wrong, I will join you in the corner and suck my thumb. At 70 years old I still remember how gratifying it was when I was little. LOL.

Approaching 70 here, citygirl! Life is good.

 

[Laughing]

Not bringing the entire post, and apologies to the poster since I don't remember who you are:

Meehan asked Fotis if he had alibi, and said Fotis told him he was concerned about the safety of the children.

Notice please that FD does not answer the question....

JMHO YMMV

 

[thekirbyfamily]

And in the same week he confronted his wife and very likely killed her - I think it’s related JMO

Absolutely. If not by being each other's alibi, then by one being the disposer of the body for the other. Here's a thought...maybe they were going to murder the wives at the same time and then say the wives ran off together...moo.

 

[sleuth66]

Thanks, brilliant summary! Should pin this to the top of the thread so it doesn't get lost. So, must be the first time LE was at 4Jx or the 1st. But what I don't understand is why LE didn't take the computers on the first trip to 4Jx? I remember it being late and dark so it must have been the 1st at 4Jx. Will keep looking. This was super helpful!

So it must have been the 31st because the night of the 1st MT was at the Residence Inn with FD and they were arrested and taken into custody at 11pm there. MT was in the NC jail from then until she posted bond on that Monday June 3. LE was back at 4JC the night of the 5th. I don’t think MT was there then, that wouldn’t fit with the context of your recollection and we certain,y would have heard about it in the media if she had been. She did meet with LE the next day at Bowman’s office.

LE might not have had a warrant to take the computers the first night? They had just found the bags that day on Albany Ave and didn’t have the DNA tests back yet clearly or LE would have arrested them on the 31st and not have waited until the 1st. Maybe LE only had enough to get a warrant to collect DNA at that time and not the computers.
I also think LE found something more incriminating at 80MS that Sunday June 2, and that might have upped the ante on getting more warrants to seize computers and more records from 4JC on Wednesday.

Without knowing what else LE had at that point it’s hard to construct.

 

[Hair of the Dog]

Should also look into the quick resale of the shell-game house by the employee (at a loss).

Might also be interesting to consider why Fore Group might have purchased this shell-game property in the first place in summer of 2016 (at the time that FD and MT reportedly hooked up). This property, a small and shabby (by Fore standards) 1961 4br technically in W. Hartford but conveniently just around the corner (or across the W. Hartford reservoir) from 4 JC, was quickly subjected to some cosmetic fixing after the purchase (rather than Fore’s usual tear down McMansion rebuild approach).
Was this going to be an outpost for MT and her daughter in the “one big family” scenario proposed by FD that we’ve all made so much about? As expansive as 4JC is, it’s listed as only 6 bedrooms, which wouldn’t have accommodated both families in style (unless MT was maybe sleeping in the Fore offices, or JD was supposed to give up her locked writing alcove suite to MT?), so FDs proposal that they all “live together in 4 JC” would have required at least a temporary relief valve outpost somewhere.

After JD left in summer of 2017 we know that MT and daughter were fully moved in to 4JC by late fall. The shell-game property then went on “sale” to the employee with MTs involvement. 6 months later, with another quick resale (at a $50K loss) a few months after that.

Thank you for the synopsis @sleuth66! What did FD pay for the property and how much did he sell it to his employee for? TIA

Sounds like FD was hedging his bets, just in case JD didn't embrace the new "lifestyle" he was proposing or kicked him to the curb for suggesting it.

It could have been a way for FD to entice MT to relocate to CT with her daughter; a job offer, complete with company housing and a vehicle. An offer she couldn't refuse.....

 

[sleuth66]

Thank you for the synopsis @sleuth66! What did FD pay for the property and how much did he sell it to his employee for? TIA

Sounds like FD was hedging his bets, just in case JD didn't embrace the new "lifestyle" he was proposing or kicked him to the curb for suggesting it.

It could have been a way for FD to entice MT to relocate to CT with her daughter; a job offer, complete with company housing and a vehicle. An offer she couldn't refuse.....

Fore purchased 123 Hunter Lane for $260K April 18 2016
Sold to employee 5/31/2017 for $650K **funky loan w MT here**
Employee sold it 12/31/2017 for $595K

There are also permits taken out by employee on behalf of Fore available online publicly regarding electrical updates shortly after purchase

 

[Jmoose]

It seems like Pattis has a true dilemma with having a client that has such a well documented history in court. That Judge Heller quote about FD lying IMO is quite a powerful statement as to who FD is what he is all about. Given what appears to be habitual/chronic lying habit, you just have to wonder what if anything FD says is true? Not even sure Pattis could ever even have him testify on his own behalf.

This latest episode of FD playing 'cupid' for his buddy KM via going around a no contact order really has me wondering if anything anyone says, including Judges, has any impact on FD? There appears to be no regard for telling the truth and certainly no regard, that we have seen, for the law. Not sure how you can put up a defense of someone like this? Not worried about No Case Norm figuring something out BTW. Just am curious how he works around what appear to be personality and character 'issues'?

MOO

He couldn’t have him testify...but it matters a little less that he is a habitual liar. The state must prove their case, and Pattis just has to hold them to it. The outcome could surprise Pattis, though, if FD lies about everything. Ultimately, the outcome will matter more to FD.

 

[afitzy]

Should also look into the quick resale of the shell-game house by the employee (at a loss).

Might also be interesting to consider why Fore Group might have purchased this shell-game property in the first place in summer of 2016 (at the time that FD and MT reportedly hooked up). This property, a small and shabby (by Fore standards) 1961 4br technically in W. Hartford but conveniently just around the corner (or across the W. Hartford reservoir) from 4 JC, was quickly subjected to some cosmetic fixing after the purchase (rather than Fore’s usual tear down McMansion rebuild approach).
Was this going to be an outpost for MT and her daughter in the “one big family” scenario proposed by FD that we’ve all made so much about? As expansive as 4JC is, it’s listed as only 6 bedrooms, which wouldn’t have accommodated both families in style (unless MT was maybe sleeping in the Fore offices, or JD was supposed to give up her locked writing alcove suite to MT?), so FDs proposal that they all “live together in 4 JC” would have required at least a temporary relief valve outpost somewhere.

After JD left in summer of 2017 we know that MT and daughter were fully moved in to 4JC by late fall. The shell-game property then went on “sale” to the employee with MTs involvement. 6 months later, with another quick resale (at a $50K loss) a few months after that.

Funny you should bring this up as I've been thinking about financial crimes in this case a bit today.

I think there is quite alot in this particular transaction that could be relevant to the issue of financial crimes.

I think this situation came up first in Family Court and some efforts were made there to sort it out but I'm not sure we have enough documents to piece it all together.

The particular piece I'm interested in is the testimony of the bank officer at Farmington Bank. Our understanding is that when questioned under oath this person took the 5th (seems to be happening quite a bit in this case!). I haven't seen anyone else added to the deposition list on the civil case but I wonder if perhaps we might not see this person deposed as GF seeks to understand where all the money in FORE went when loans due to FIL were not repaid?

I'm also interested in the role of MT in this as it appears she was the one that took the money from FD to make the $75,000 loan. Perhaps this is what GF wants to figure out when they depose MT? Realistically almost all of the money in FORE came from FIL/GF, so the fact that FD/MT gave $75,000 to someone while not choosing to repay money owed to FIL seems suspicious on the face of it. I am sure GF is all over this issue. What I am also curious about is if MT takes the 5th in the civil litigation will GF then undertake another civil litigation against MT and FD for the $75,000? Could be interesting. IMO its a total shame GF has to do any of this. But it certainly looks like MT was deeply involved in the financial aspects of FORE here as she appeared to front this entire transaction. Was MT the one that perhaps sought to compensate the loan officer at Farmington Bank to facilitate the transaction? Or, was it FD?

As I thought about it more I really wondered if either FD or MT or perhaps even person that bought the house, might have undertaken to compensate the loan officer involved for the transaction as the numbers involved didn't seem to add up completely.

I am not confident Family Court records will be able to prove all this out unfortunately. I also believe Family Court might have called other witnesses involved with the transaction (person that purchased and sold the house) but I have never heard that their testimony was made public or if perhaps they took the 5th when questioned.

MOO

 

[Jmoose]

Feel the same way. Very encouraged and believe there is much to come. If wrong, I will join you in the corner and suck my thumb. At 70 years old I still remember how gratifying it was when I was little. LOL.

I was never a thumb sucker-but if we are all wrong, I and my thumb would join you. I don’t think we are wrong, though

 

[afitzy]

Farber vs fore group
Notice Content:
Notice Issued: 08/02/2019
Docket Number: HHD-CV-18-6088970-S
Case Caption: FARBER, GLORIA, EXECUTOR OF THE ESTATE OF HILLIARD v. FORE GROUP, INC. Et Al
Notice Sequence #: 1
JDNO NOTICE

09/06/2019 AT 10:00AM

A HEARING IS SCHEDULED FOR THE ABOVE DATE &
TIME. PARTIES AND THEIR COUNSEL SHALL REPORT
TO CASEFLOW, ROOM 111. FAILURE TO APPEAR WILL
RESULT IN DISMISSAL OR DEFAULT.

ANY MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE SHALL BE MADE ON
FORM JD-CV-21 NOT LESS THAN 3 COURT DAYS IN
ADVANCE AND WILL NOT BE GRANTED ABSENT GOOD
CAUSE AND ALL PARTIES' CONSENT TO A PROXIMAL
CONTINUANCE DATE.
PER THE HONORABLE DAVID M. SHERIDAN, PJ
http://civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov/CaseDetail/PublicCaseDetail.aspx?DocketNo=FSTFA175016797S

Strong words from the Court! Failure to show gets you a dismissal or default!

Looks like it might just be the 'Come to Jesus' moment we have all been waiting for on this mess!

Hope GF gets the justice from the Court that she deserves on this matter.

 

[Mrs. M]

I can imagine that when FD saw on the news on Friday 5/31 afternoon that they were searching the drain in front of the Jamaican bakery on Albany Avenue, he realized they were onto them. I remember on the news that day seeing the fire truck, ambulance, and red tarp, laid out at the sewer drain in front of the bakery. He must have been #$& in his pants when he saw that. Then they announced in the media they hadn’t found anything there (very strategic) and he probably bounced back to his superpower smarter than all you, see there, mode, but of course they had found something and that night they came to take his DNA. We all know his demeanor then from the widely listed videos.

Great point! I had forgotten that LE had said they found nothing. That gives me a lot of hope that they have what they need.