Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #17

[MassGuy]

From the CBS-NY Report: "The prosecution also complained Fotis Dulos may be using his sister to communicate with his five children. The three boys and two girls are living in Manhattan. Jennifer Dulos’ mother, Gloria Farber, has custody". Maybe this answers the question of "who" is trying to contact children. Personally, I feel that if it is the sister; she is not doing it out of love and compassion for the children; but rather as a "dirty rat move" for her brother. jmo.

If we know anything about FD, it’s that rules were not meant for him.

This wouldn’t be the least bit surprising, in fact, I’d be surprised if it wasn’t true.

 

[Laughing]

Ha! I’d like to think so. I think there’s probably a legitimate reason though.

I’m not sure what issue they could have run into. I just know that there is specialized software, and it doesn’t require a lot of technical expertise.

BBM

Greek (or Turkish) translation?

JMHO YMMV MOO LRR

 

[MsJosie]

http://www.ncsl.org/research/civil-and-criminal-justice/connecticut-abolishes-the-death-penalty.aspx

CT does not have the death penalty. It was abolished 2012.


https://www.jud.ct.gov/Publications/JA005.pdf

Page 16....from what I read it has to be unanimous decision of all 12 jurors for a conviction. Correct me if I am wrong.

 

[afitzy]

What do you think the jeep and suburban look like now?

Depends on what LE did to it as part of their investigation.

One possiblity might be this:



We shall see if they are drivable or are delivered back via flatbed.
MOO

 

[MsJosie]

I think he can’t afford to buy himself a new phone! Or even a car rental.

If not him his Greek family and his friends can help him out.

 

[afitzy]

Phone extraction is a fairly fast procedure.

We’re talking minutes here.

One would think this happened within hours of law enforcement receiving his phone.

I don’t know why it would take this long, unless they ran into some sort of an issue.

Not that I care one bit.

Agree with you. This issue is a bit of a mystery.

Arrest warrant refers NCPD taking the FD iPhone X and conducting a forensic download of the device. Maybe the issue is getting copies of the info to No Case Norm?

 

[BellaVita]

Hold on now.
What do we know about his family?
Sister is an architect in Greece. Niece somewhere around New England. Brother in Mass. Father passed long before all this started. Mother had tragic accident.

Now stop right there. That’s all we know about the tragedy right now. LE never pursued it. So it was an accident until proven otherwise. Tragic. No doubt. Questionable in light of recent events. But an accident.

I’ve never seen anything else about them. Maybe they are cruel. Maybe not.

It’s not the benefit of the doubt about the family. It’s that they start out on even ground in my humble opinion. We’re so quick to judge them. Wouldn’t you try to do SOMETHING if your family member was in this situation? Maybe not even for FD, but for his children? To reach out to GF and ask if there is anything that they can do to help the children? Or GF? And if the response is leave us alone, then FD family knows that at least they tried to do right IN THEIR HEARTS. Maybe GF was advised by therapists to not allow contact. I don’t know. But if that’s what she was advised, she acted on that suggestion. If she was advised otherwise, that is still her decision. Who better to know what is best for her grandchildren?

So which family member was attempting contact? Multiple persons? Non family members? Greeks are a very tight knit group. Like the Jews, Hispanics and some Asians. I’m sure there are more national groups that are very clannish. I admire all of them for these traits. I wish I belonged to an ethnic group like that. The best I can do is work with my family, to bind us together. No matter what happens. We’re family. ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT WE ARE ONE.

So if a member of FD is cruel, so be it. BUT:

Maybe they are reaching out with love and not cruelty. Maybe with concern for the children’s welfare. Maybe so that the children know the Greek side of the family knows that they are suffering and wished they could help, in some way.
And not for any other reason.

What do any of you think?
Can we give the families a chance?
I’m willing to give them that opportunity, until facts present themselves that would change my decision.
Family courts look to the following:
“What is in the best interests of the children?”

Respectfully disagree. The clannish aspect is fun when things are going well. But when a member of the clan is in trouble, objectivity goes out the window and they circle the wagons. Even if care for the children is genuine, common sense and decency dictates to stay away from the children. They have enough going on. If I was GF, I would want them to stay out of it right now. I don't think that trying to contact GF or the children is doing right "in their hearts". It's distasteful and intrusive. MOO.

 

[citygirl]

Depends on what LE did to it as part of their investigation.

One possiblity might be this:

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We shall see if they are drivable or are delivered back via flatbed.
MOO

YIKES! No way!!!

 

[BellaVita]

Families in this no matter which side are victims IMO no different than JD.

But I believe in this case the State today was making the point that family members were being used to circumvent FD no contact order issued lastly (and again today confirmed in Criminal Court) by Family Court.

There are no ifs/ands/buts I think that is a horrible situation for any family to have to go through. But to use family members to circumvent a court order is not legal and to potentially use another innocent child to circumvent a court order if that is what happened is IMO reprehensible.

Adults in the family should understand what a no contact order means for FD, so to hide behind using children as intermediaries, if that is what happened, is unacceptable IMO and puts GF in the no win position of having to police a situation.

The discussion on the contact issue for FD family wasn't discussed in depth today so who knows what all has been going on, but it has to be dealt with for the sake of the children. But the situation must have been concerning IMO as GF brought it to the attention of the State's Atty who brought it up in court.

MOO

I love your posts but have to disagree that" Families in this no matter which side are victims IMO no different than JD. " IMO.

 

[BellaVita]

I still want to know how FD and NP got ahold of a current list of charges for lab and other tests? He wasn’t paying for her health insurance, and had NO RIGHT to look at any mail addressed to her, regardless of where it was sent. I wonder why the prosecutor didn’t ask the judge to make a motion telling FD that he isn’t allowed to open her mail?

Opening another person's mail is a federal offense, IMO.

 

[afitzy]

YIKES! No way!!!

Many possibilities. I've seen the interiors totally taken apart on other cases. It might depend also on whether they found blood evidence or DNA etc. in the vehicles being returned. But it was good to get the info today on the vehicles being returned as it means LE focus is on the Ford 150 Raptor.

I thought FD had 4 vehicles: Suburban, Jeep Cherokee, Ford Raptor and Toyota? I didn't hear any mention of Toyota today or maybe I am remember it incorrectly and this vehicle had been sold?

Does anyone recall if the EE truck had been returned or is it still with the State as well?

MOO

 

[HopeForTheBest]

If it was hundreds of thousands of dollars, then it was her trust fund money, that he already had plans for. I didn’t hear that part of the court proceeding

MOO, it’s to make it look like she took the money to go on the lam. Sure. With all the publicity, no one would notice this strikingly beautiful woman—of course not! Never mind that all we have seen says she would NEVER leave her kids! Ack! I wrote this long post about the illogical arguments NP has regarding JD and her disappearance, etc. and decided to spare you all from reading it but omg. MOO.

 

[citygirl]

Did anyone else pick up on Norm's statement about how the PT has him on notice? Said something like he tests the limits of his law license every day?

 

[On It]

He is projecting; the best defense is a good offense.

They are go going for the “throw anything and everything, fiction or fact (99.9% fiction) and see what sticks”. In MOO. They both turn my stomach.

 

[HopeForTheBest]

Respectfully disagree. The clannish aspect is fun when things are going well. But when a member of the clan is in trouble, objectivity goes out the window and they circle the wagons. Even if care for the children is genuine, common sense and decency dictates to stay away from the children. They have enough going on. If I was GF, I would want them to stay out of it right now. I don't think that trying to contact GF or the children is doing right "in their hearts". It's distasteful and intrusive. MOO.

And not that I care about FD but is it likely to help his case for this to occur since he is already known for not obeying the rules?

 

[BellaVita]

Want to say that whoever is on a health insurance plan has access to Out of Pocket expenses and Individual and Family deductible information. At the insurance company I work for, even the primary insured cannot discuss specific medical info with an agent. A lot of spouses and parents get upset when we tell them no, can't discuss, even though you are the parent/spouse. Some plans, maybe all or most, itemize lab work into a separate benefit category. It's very possible that FD could ethically know the dollar amount of lab work. IMO.

 

[HopeForTheBest]

Did anyone else pick up on Norm's statement about how the PT has him on notice? Said something like he tests the limits of his law license every day?

No, but here again is the whistling in the dark past the graveyard and his apparent ploy that if he’s charming and jokes about his bad behavior, they’ll find him endearing and it’ll be, “Oh, that’s just how NP is, he’s a good ole boy.” He’s not respectful to other lawyers, the judges, or the discipline. Does his therapist never bring this stuff up?! MOO.

 

[HopeForTheBest]

YIKES! No way!!!

Whatever they did to it can’t be as bad as what it seems he did to JD. MOO.

 

[afitzy]

Fox61 report summary filed this afternoon:
Fotis Dulos appears in court; some seized items to be returned

 

[afitzy]

On the FD phone situation I went back and listened to the discussion in court today.

Today we got confirmation that FD had 2 phones.

The arrest warrant so far as I can tell refers to 1 phone.

Perhaps there was a delay in getting a warrant for the second phone and extraction didn't happen as quickly as it did on the iPhone X that FD gave to NCPD on the 25th?

Just a guess as to what might be going on but listening today it wasn't even clear that the States Atty could explain the delay so honestly who knows? MOO