Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #19

[dlharris2712]

Aha. Like Al Capone. Could never convict him for his criminal atrocities, but the G-Men got him on tax evasion. Ditto Mr. OJ Simpson. He who has the last laugh, laughs best. Hahahahaha. So that’s how FD is going to end up behind bars. And federal time is “to do” time. No early release there.

At this point, I'd be happy with tax evasion jail time. Any jail (prison) time would suffice; so long as this little worm of a man is behind bars - being bossed around, told what to do, treated and eating crappy incarceration food!!! jmo

 

[oviedo]

Good thing. Judge did a 'bombs away' on any/all objections brought by Bowman and MT/HO. Now they just have to resolve the FO presence at the MT/MO deposition in criminal court. Should be a few more weeks I would think if they don't have a hearing.

She can assert her 5th amendment rights on a question by question basis in the deposition.

This will be interesting to watch how it plays out and if GF chooses to initiate a separate civil legal action against MT for her actions at FORE as it relates to the repayment of money owed to GF late husband/estate. GF has the mean to simply make a financial ruin of MT and her entire family if she wanted to. I hope her family has thought of the consequences of not cooperating.

Bowman has a tough row to hoe here with MT as I would think that more charges for other past crimes could come out of the deposition related to her time at FORE. Would not want to be MT now with no deal from the State but I don't think they could protect her from other charges relates to issues arising from the Civil case but its a question for the atty's here.

MOO

What Are Criminal Depositions? When Are Depositions Allowed? - Lawyers.com

There are two separate matters going on - one is the criminal case (MT/FD both defendants) and the other is GF's lawsuit. I'm thinking he will be able to attend the depositions since he is a defendant and that is his right IMO. However, there is that pesky no contact order in place - I would imagine MT's lawyer would need to move for a protective order on his presence at her deposition and then the Judge would rule. But he does have rights so there is a good chance IMO he will be able to attend. I've often wondered if the no contact motion is all a big part of her strategy to distance herself from the crime. I guess we may find out if she fights to have him excluded - all JMO (but I did research CT and Federal law on depositions). Apparently it is not as exclusive as one might think as far as who may attend - it is the deponent's attorney who should confer and move for a protective order and walk away rather than let non-parties and/or others be present during their deposition. The phone aspect in divorce is interesting but again, the spouses may have the right to be present from what I have read.

 

[Deleted member 229974]

iF I list all the ways possible, you all will think I'm a hitman, or hitwoman.
Seriously, you ever hear of a sniper?
How about a Hit 'n Run?
How about a bomb under a car?
Think like a mobster.

Ahh, I see. I was simply imagining their arrival to the attorney’s office. MT with Andrew and FO with Norm with lots of others around them, including photographers etc.
Even if FO did try and shoot her with a gun, he’d be caught and arrested for her murder. I would imagine there will be police presence too. Perhaps she can wear a bullet proof vest, I wonder if YSL showed any in his Fall Collection.

 

[afitzy]

What Are Criminal Depositions? When Are Depositions Allowed? - Lawyers.com

There are two separate matters going on - one is the criminal case (MT/FD both defendants) and the other is GF's lawsuit. I'm thinking he will be able to attend the depositions since he is a defendant and that is his right IMO. However, there is that pesky no contact order in place - I would imagine MT's lawyer would need to move for a protective order on his presence at her deposition and then the Judge would rule. But he does have rights so there is a good chance IMO he will be able to attend. I've often wondered if the no contact motion is all a big part of her strategy to distance herself from the crime. I guess we may find out if she fights to have him excluded - all JMO (but I did research CT and Federal law on depositions). Apparently it is not as exclusive as one might think as far as who may attend - it is the deponent's attorney who should confer and move for a protective order and walk away rather than let non-parties and/or others be present during their deposition. The phone aspect in divorce is interesting but again, the spouses may have the right to be present from what I have read.

Thanks for this! The issue seems to be a FO generated issue as the person to bring this up in court was No Case Norm. So far as I've seen, Bowman hasn't weighed in on this and neither has the State. State I believe gets 13 days or so to respond after Pattis sends in his motion. Still don't know if there will be a hearing or if Judge will bench rule on it.

Wonder why Pattis is fighting so hard for FO to see MT?

Yet again in his most recent interview Pattis mentioned that FO is 'devastated' to not be able to see MT. Like others have said here, it must be killing Pattis to have zero info on MT stmts and strategy. Have to give Bowman much much credit for keeping out of the fray with Pattis. Good example I think from Bowman of how to deal with a bully and bruiser like No Case Norm.

MOO

 

[afitzy]

This one time I will defend FD. Now don’t Istone me to death.
There are some people that can NEVER EVER be satisfied. And use that skill to beat the other person down until they get the goods or service for next to nothing. And, after they win, still go on to bash FD. Personal experiences and knowledge. I was on the receiving end. And have seen others on the receiving end. He was lucky enough to be a better negotiator than this “buyer”. My best guess is they had heard he was in financial trouble, and went in with the intention to get him to sell at a substantial loss. MOO.

Not one stone! Ever!

I have zero knowledge of the situation described in the online review but she placed it on BBB and google so she felt strongly about her position. I agree that some people will never be please and she might have been one. IDK.

That online review situation aside though we have seen other stories of games played with deposits (refundable and non refundable) by FORE (Nigerian Prince lawsuit dealt with deposits to some extent). Other people that didn't spend much time negotiating the FORE standard contract for build to suit I believe have expressed similar feelings of being 'bait and switched' by FO/FORE and their project ends up costing substantially more. It just seems from some of these other online comments that things always seemed to 'change' in the building process with FORE and price changes never seemed to be in favor of reducing project cost, just escalated the cost for the buyer.

Not having seen one of the these infamous FORE contracts its hard to say how much it leans in the favor of FORE. My guess from some of the contracts and what I read in the Nigerian Prince lawsuit with FORE is that the contracts lean heavily in favor of FORE. So many people on threads here have weighed in on the challenges of any building project so its hard to assess this I think without the contract. I also wonder how many people just sign the FORE standard contract and don't negotiate it to be more favorable to the buyers. The Nigerian prince was a lawyer himself and did modify the contract with FORE and even so they had issues. The Nigerian princes isn't the best example probably as he turned out to be a well documented scamster and I believe was reported to the FBI. But, its the only example of a FORE contract I've seen that is available online at the CT judiciary website.

MOO

 

[andalso]

O'kay, so seemingly none of this mess is bothering FD, not even the tiniest bit. It's all a game to him, strategy- strategy-strategy. He doesn't have the emotions to care unless it relates to his mission. He is calculating every move. He is vicious.
What does he have on everyone? Is blackmail involved? Are there sex tapes involved (kinda kidding but who knows at this point - thinking FD's attempt to lure KM's ex to his lair).
I have been trying to be patient and in a problem solving mindset but right now I am just mad and disgusted. There are not words to describe how distasteful and abhorrent FD and his people are.
FD needs to be in jail. Take him down, LE...we are waiting!

Oh, and that's my opinion.

 

[afitzy]

Civil case update:
http://civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov/DocumentInquiry/DocumentInquiry.aspx?DocumentNo=17601054

GF is making motion for default in the case as FO/FORE haven't complied with document requests made back in March, 2018.

 

[MsJosie]

Thanks afitzy for all the updates, documents, explanations and comments. You and so many others are appreciated.

Do you think as time draws closer to a trial or if he gets tipped off he is about to be arrested, he will flee to Greece with the help of Friends? I do think he will try and may succeed.

 

[afitzy]

O'kay, so seemingly none of this mess is bothering FD, not even the tiniest bit. It's all a game to him, strategy- strategy-strategy. He doesn't have the emotions to care unless it relates to his mission. He is calculating every move. He is vicious.
What does he have on everyone? Is blackmail involved? Are there sex tapes involved (kinda kidding but who knows at this point - thinking FD's attempt to lure KM's ex to his lair).
I have been trying to be patient and in a problem solving mindset but right now I am just mad and disgusted. There are not words to describe how distasteful and abhorrent FD and his people are. Ag
FD needs to be in jail. Take him down, LE...we are waiting!

Oh, and that's my opinion.

Agree that there is more going on that we cannot even imagine!

But take a look at the face of FO over time as he does look different:


Sources: FD FB, NYP, Stamford Advocate

MOO

 

[Jade]

Agree that there is more going on that we cannot even imagine!

But take a look at the face of FO over time as he does look different:

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Sources: FD FB, NYP, Stamford Advocate

MOO

The wealth has worn off


imo

 

[andalso]

Agree that there is more going on that we cannot even imagine!

But take a look at the face of FO over time as he does look different:

View attachment 200379 View attachment 200380 View attachment 200381
Sources: FD FB, NYP, Stamford Advocate

MOO

IIRC, the last pic is his 'woe is me' interview where he was attempting to appear human. Strategic. Failed, IMO. The middle one he looks angry and the first he looks smug. IMO.

If he is losing any sleep it is because of his chafing skin from the ankle monitor and not being able to rub his ankle monitor up against hers. IMO

 

[Jmoose]

The wealth has worn off


imo

He HAD dyed his hair, as of the last sighting of him last week. I wonder if he’d been doing so for years, and only got around to it again recently. That was quite a bit more gray hair in the interview with Sarah Wallace, than there was when we saw him last week with att’y Wm Murray.

 

[dlharris2712]

Agree that there is more going on that we cannot even imagine!

But take a look at the face of FO over time as he does look different:

View attachment 200379 View attachment 200380 View attachment 200381
Sources: FD FB, NYP, Stamford Advocate

MOO

Pic #1: I'm a smug, important "big shot". Pic #2: Oh sh**, I killed my wife and I'm busted. Pic #3: Thinking hard how to get out of his big mess of a life. JMO

 

[dlharris2712]

Civil case update:
http://civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov/DocumentInquiry/DocumentInquiry.aspx?DocumentNo=17601054

GF is making motion for default in the case as FO/FORE haven't complied with document requests made back in March, 2018.

YAY!!! The more I see of GF's attorney's plans...the more I like them! They are going after him in a smart calculated way. Quietly, without any big production...aka WINNING!!! jmo

 

[gitana1]

What Are Criminal Depositions? When Are Depositions Allowed? - Lawyers.com

There are two separate matters going on - one is the criminal case (MT/FD both defendants) and the other is GF's lawsuit. I'm thinking he will be able to attend the depositions since he is a defendant and that is his right IMO. However, there is that pesky no contact order in place - I would imagine MT's lawyer would need to move for a protective order on his presence at her deposition and then the Judge would rule. But he does have rights so there is a good chance IMO he will be able to attend. I've often wondered if the no contact motion is all a big part of her strategy to distance herself from the crime. I guess we may find out if she fights to have him excluded - all JMO (but I did research CT and Federal law on depositions). Apparently it is not as exclusive as one might think as far as who may attend - it is the deponent's attorney who should confer and move for a protective order and walk away rather than let non-parties and/or others be present during their deposition. The phone aspect in divorce is interesting but again, the spouses may have the right to be present from what I have read.

If there's a restraining order in place the restrained party can't be present.

 

[Deleted member 229974]

Thanks for this! The issue seems to be a FO generated issue as the person to bring this up in court was No Case Norm. So far as I've seen, Bowman hasn't weighed in on this and neither has the State. State I believe gets 13 days or so to respond after Pattis sends in his motion. Still don't know if there will be a hearing or if Judge will bench rule on it.

Wonder why Pattis is fighting so hard for FO to see MT?

Yet again in his most recent interview Pattis mentioned that FO is 'devastated' to not be able to see MT. Like others have said here, it must be killing Pattis to have zero info on MT stmts and strategy. Have to give Bowman much much credit for keeping out of the fray with Pattis. Good example I think from Bowman of how to deal with a bully and bruiser like No Case Norm.

MOO

Maybe Norm can ask the judge to invite the children too since FO surely must be devastated not to be able to see them.

 

[sds71]

Farber v. Dulos
200.00 08/27/2019 P MOTION FOR ORDER

OF INSPECTION
http://civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov/DocumentInquiry/DocumentInquiry.aspx?DocumentNo=17625386

They want a forensic accounting to find out how someone with no construction accounts who has defaulted on two mortgages can afford several lawyers and P.I.

They want to know how someone who hasn’t paid a dime of child support and has no income can support children.

Since FDs atty claims the pending criminal charges is destroying FDs reputation and standing in the community. GF has the right to investigate all issues affecting his financial condition.

 

[sds71]

Dulos case: Defense seeks state evidence with emergency order

The emergency order, filed Tuesday by attorney Norm Pattis, asks the judge to compel the state attorney to share the evidence “critical” to his client’s defense. If the state does not play ball, Pattis asked that the state be prevented from using any evidence it won’t share in the prosecution.
“Given the extraordinary public interest in this case, and given the fact that scarcely a day has passed since Ms. Dulos vanished in which there is not a press account repeating the suspicion that Mr. Dulos engaged in foul play, it is fundamentally unfair for the state to withhold this evidence while the jury pool is daily exposed to adverse publicity about the case,” Pattis wrote
Pattis claims the state has evidence that Fotis Dulos was not present at his estranged wife’s home on the day she was reported missing, but refuses to provide it to the defense. He requested that the state provide evidence regarding Troconis’ interview with investigators, as well as information pulled from Fotis Dulos’ computers and cell phones.
Pattis argued that his client needs to be given access to these items in order to “perfect his alibi.”

 

[kimch33kim]

Lawyer for Fotis Dulos says prosecutors are 'desperate’ to link his client to Jennifer Dulos’ disappearance and are ignoring other possible leads

 

[BellaVita]

Agree that there is more going on that we cannot even imagine!

But take a look at the face of FO over time as he does look different:

View attachment 200379 View attachment 200380 View attachment 200381
Sources: FD FB, NYP, Stamford Advocate

MOO

Also though, FD is very aware of how he presents himself. The facial hair and then the buzz cut project power and bad boy. It was a bad look for him in the orange jumpsuit being accused of tampering with evidence connected to his missing wife. They are chameleons and know that the clean cut look is a better image in court. IME, IMO. He does look like he shrunk though.