Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #19

[gitana1]

View attachment 200470 View attachment 200468 The HC has been working hard IMO to investigate the KM/FO connection. I still don't get why FO wasn't arrested for his role in working around the KM no contact order with the STBX but that will have to be a question for another day I guess.

Below is part of HC article that takes us back to the good ole days when No Case Norm seemed that he might have some semblance of a case. Pattis was actually talking about an alibi. People actually verified to the HC that KM was the atty that was at 4Jx with FO on the 24th. Pattis has stopped talking about this 'alibi'.

Can you imagine the defense lineup to alibi FO: MT and KM. Heads you lose and Tails you lose IMO. How could it be possible to have 2 such witnesses standing between you and 20 to life.

No wonder Pattis is losing his mind if this is what he has to work with!

Rough waters ahead in Pattisville IMO.

MOO

Gosh I forgot about that whole thing with his attorney. Crazy!

But NP isn't fazed. He loves all the drama, IMO.

 

[gitana1]

On 7/19/19 KM withdrew his motion to withdraw appearance as counsel, originally filed 6/7/2019 (motion to withdraw appearance was 119.0, motion to withdraw that one-in effect keeping KM on as counsel-) was 125.0).
Complicated. By staying on KM can claim lawyer-client privilege, right.

Regardless that’s the trail of how he’s still repping FD.

Smart catch.

Privilege remains though after we withdraw.

 

[gitana1]

Thanks! Tried to figure it out and couldn't.

Would privilege drop away if say KM lost his license to practice?

No.

 

[afitzy]

Back to the boat key for a second...does it appear to you that he is holding that key up in the picture on purpose?
It does to me. Do we know when or where that picture was taken?

Where is this picture of 'boat key'? Not seeing it. Thanks

 

[gitana1]

No

Jinx.

 

[citygirl]

. This story is about evidence missing and probably lost in the Jennifer Dulos case. A carpet or mat left by Fotis Dulos the day she disappeared that is now gone it seems. A
A carpet or mat believed to be tied to Jennifer Dulos’ disappearance was left at a Hartford restaurant the day she went missing, but investigators can’t track it down
State police have interviewed the employees of a Hartford restaurant where a section of carpet or mat they believe is tied to the May 24 disappearance of Jennifer Farber Dulos was left the day she went missing – the second key piece of evidence investigators have been unable to track down.

YES! I heard this very early on from a reliable source and have waited for it to come out. I think it's the back mat from her SUV. Which tells me he put her in there and transferred her to another vehicle. Also had heard it was picked up by a homeless person long before LE arrived. Based on the amount of blood in the garage one would think it transferred to that large mat.
I had hoped that LE tracked it down but it doesn't sound like it.

 

[CTGrammy]

Not that it makes a difference now, but who called it an amicable divorce? They didn’t fight over any stuff that we know of, but “amicable” sounds “friendly” to me, and I am not sure I completely buy that it was friendly-she may have been relieved to see the back of him as he left, though. She hasn’t spoken publicly, so we likely won’t ever know what happened with those two. He may have called it “amicable”, because he is the one who wanted out, I think. I just don’t see him letting go of someone who he thinks belongs to him, unless he is the one who wants out. Look at how he behaved with JD, and he didn’t love her. She had to sneak away, after months of planning (likely).

IMO, Amicable in that FW (first wife) left with Nothing, so to speak.

IMO, FW left with her car (purchased before the marriage and in her name) and the clothes on her back.

IMO, FW did not fight in court, she did not ask for alimony, she did not ask for the house, she did not ask for any assets, they did not have children, etc, etc.

So, basically, FO was 'winning'.

FW's Life was the Only thing of value that FW walked away with.

FO kept the home (oh, and his mother). FO's father had passed away during FO's marriage with FW.

All IMO.

 

[sds71]

Back to the boat key for a second...does it appear to you that he is holding that key up in the picture on purpose?
It does to me. Do we know when or where that picture was taken?

I think that's at Avon Pond
Mastercraft is a sponsor of some of the meets there

 

[Chicago54]

He wrapped her up it that carpet. I wonder if it was hers from the house somewhere?

Are we talking about the same carpet or mat here? Confusing IMO. Seems like LE can see him on CCTV “lean” it up against wall. I’m thinking that would have to be smaller and stiffer than a carpet used to”wrap” her in.

Also confusing as to why LE can’t see this carpet or mat disappear from CCTV footage.

 

[sds71]

Marisa Alter posted copies of Pattis motion
Marissa Alter

 

[sds71]

More Motions

 

[Southernsnooper]

Search warrants are sealed in the criminal case right now until September (13th I think).

Good point!

 

[kimch33kim]

Did anyone read into the article it says the person dumping the mat was with a black SUV. So when was it dumped? on the same day? But FD was in the raptor and thats clearly not an SUV.

 

[sds71]

dulos v. dulos

534.00 08/28/2019 P OBJECTION TO MOTION

Intervenor's Objection to Defendant's Motion for Appointment of AMC, Pendente Lite

535.00 08/28/2019 P OBJECTION TO MOTION

Intervenor's Objection to Defendant's Motion for Orders Re Information, Pendente Lite

 

[dlharris2712]

Jeez-look what FD does to people! He is like an incubus!

No...I think he is more like a "SUCK-ubus"...jmo

 

[Tink56]

Did anyone read into the article it says the person dumping the mat was with a black SUV. So when was it dumped? on the same day? But FD was in the raptor and thats clearly not an SUV.

Noticed this also....bad reporting? It seems like this was from the memory of the restaurant employees, right.

Would also like to know when this happened.

 

[gitana1]

@gitana1, GF was awarded custody by Judge Heller. Pattis/Rochlin/FO had previously issued an immediate appeal to the GF custody award.

FO/Pattis/Rochlin filed last week in Family Court to request that atty's be made available for the 2 oldest who are now 13 but will shortly be 14. FO/Pattis/Rochlin then filed in Family Court to request all/any school and medical reports from the children.

I've been going down the path that GF team is setting up case for termination of FO parental rights with goal of adopting the children. Its high risk long term battle but GF might just believe the children are in danger from FO. Perhaps FO/Pattis got wind of this strategy and are setting the stage for their appeal of the GF custody award? IDK. But there has to be something behind the activity in Family Court IMO.

Curious what you see going on with the Pattis strategy!

Thanks for all the info. You are on top of this case!!

They can't terminate his parental rights easily. It's not something they would have hope of doing now, certainly.

The custody orders are temporary. I don't mean that there's an upcoming hearing date but it's not a final judgment regarding custody, IIRC, so he doesn't have to appeal it. He can file a writ, which is like an appeal, to overturn the decision but he can also file the motions you have described to gear up for future hearings on custody.

The process in family law is like this:

1. Summons and petition.
2. Motion for interim orders as to things like temporary support or custody. These orders would last until new interim orders are issued or until judgment.
3. Sometimes emergency order requests.
4. Eventual trial and/or settlement, both of which create a judgment.

Challenges to interim orders include mostly ineffective motions for reconsideration, in which a party appeals directly to the court to reconsider based on a mistake of fact or law, etc., and writs, in which a party appeals to the appellate court. But these are routinely ignored so to speak as the appellate court has discretion as to whether to consider a writ.

After judgment, challenges to the judgment are via appeal. The appellate court must consider appeals.

In CA, you have to show a substantial change in circumstance to modify final custody orders. But you don't have to pass that hurdle to modify interim orders. So if it's similar in CT, FD can file another motion to change custody at any time.

That being said, the decision of the judge awarding interim custody to GF was extensive and well thought out. She really broke down her decision and I don't see her changing her mind. I also don't see her decision successfully challenged via writ but, if I had a client with funds to do so, it would be worth a shot to file a writ because the decision involves fundamental constitutional parental rights.

I think controlling his children is a big thing for FD and he will continue to try to get custody.

But I don't see it changing any time soon. And the longer the kids are with grandma the harder it will be to modify the orders as the courts won't want to shake up the status quo.

The only problem is her age. She isn't likely going to be able to parent them for the rest of their childhoods.

Although with the help of a lot of money and relatives, some have done it (Michael Jackson's mom for one).

 

[CTGrammy]

IIRC they were married for 4 years total (up to the divorce), they lived together over in Greece (or met there?) for a period, then married / moved to the US (Southern New England I think - RI, CT or downstate NY). She is an American citizen. He divorced his first wife after becoming a US citizen, 'bumping into' JD again (they were both alums from Brown), and within a few months to less than a year married JD. All JMM (just my memory) of posts with links way upthread on FD's history and the Timeline.

Fotis Dulos’ first marriage to Hilary Aldama ended quickly, amicably

https://www.linkedin.com/in/fotis-dulos-28102b12/

FO and FW(first wife) were living in CT along with FO's parents, during the marriage and FO kept the home in Canton, in the divorce.

They were Married in Greece in June 2000, but I do not recall them Living in Greece.

After FO's stint at Columbia, 1995-1997, FO worked for CAP Gemini from 1997-2004, which would have been from Before marriage to FW to immediately After marriage to JD.

FW is also a Brown Alumus from 1995-1999.

MOO and IMO

 

[citygirl]

Are we talking about the same carpet or mat here? Confusing IMO. Seems like LE can see him on CCTV “lean” it up against wall. I’m thinking that would have to be smaller and stiffer than a carpet used to”wrap” her in.

Also confusing as to why LE can’t see this carpet or mat disappear from CCTV footage.

They may have. Remember when they said they hadn't found anything in the storm drain?

 

[citygirl]

Did anyone read into the article it says the person dumping the mat was with a black SUV. So when was it dumped? on the same day? But FD was in the raptor and thats clearly not an SUV.

Yes. I picked up on that, too. Confusing.