Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #21

[enelram]

I am pretty sure there wasn't one; as the warrant says Michi's alibi was not true. IIRC...jmo

so where was she on 5/24 am? I didn't see this addressed in AW unless I missed it?
Anyone see this?

 

[afitzy]

BUT....And I think there are just sooo many comments right now....but have been trying to get your take on whether MT could have been driving the truck...is there anything yet that proves she wasn't? ALSO...no mention of blood on drivers' side. Could the blood transfer on the passenger side been directly from FD and JD put in bed of truck? Can MT be eliminated as possibly driving the truck?

Such an interesting question!

Reading through the AW from yesterday it was oddly silent in key parts IMO on MT and what she was/wasn't doing and where she was/wasn't on the 24th.

I've been trying to put together a MT timeline for the 24th - 29th and even with what we learned yesterday there are big gaps. I find this quite curious but don't think there is any mystery at all, it just wasn't disclosed by LE in the AW. Its OK IMO as LE have this all down pat, so all will be disclosed at the right time.

IMO these are intentional gaps by LE as to MT timeline as even though MT WASTED LE TIME FOR 81 DAYS, they must have her timeline down by now complete with CCTV where possible.

Looks like MT got 'religion' and only began to reluctantly cooperate on 8/13/19 so my guess is that to the extent she is able she is assisting LE with the last 25 miles of the FD trip in the EE Red Truck to figure out where the body was disposed of or whether it came back to 80MS. Even the MT comments in the AW indicated at best 'lukewarm' cooperation so I hope she is being treated appropriately by LE and gets no sweetheart deal as she is far from a sweetheart IMO!

The AW was fairly silent on the 'cleaning' that EE saw going on at 80MS being done by FO + HO (it looked to be both in the house and in the Red Truck). But we also don't clearly know yet how long MT was at 80MS and 'assisting' FD with whatever was going on there. Again, we see gaps in timeline for MT/HO.

We also don't have full details of MT phone pings in the latest arrest warrant even though LE references that she is an ATT customer and they used the pings I believe to place her in a couple of spots. So, IMO LE have the MT ping records but just didn't share them. This no doubt has to be highly stressful for No Case Norm! Sorry NOT SORRY NO CASE NORM!

Anyway, today my plan is to go back and try to put the pieces together on MT for the 24th through the Car Wash timeframe so any comments on this would be helpful and see exactly where the gaps are and then try to figure out what might have been going on with FO + HO.

IMO there is no denying MT knowledge in anything that happened to JD. I still am processing how a fellow mother could wait 81 days before stepping up to 'kinda' help in a very weak way IMO with the investigation is absolutely unconscionable. I don't buy for a second she was fearful as the AW states that FD was driving her to/from her atty meetings in Westport and they were traipsing around Farmington and Avon during this period living the 'good ole life'. Its mind blowing on so many levels to me and will take awhile to fully process I am sure!

MOO

 

[dlharris2712]

I’m wondering where FD’s bloody clothes/sneakers are and if LE found them.

I sure hope so!

MOO

Probably not sneakers...but I am guessing Louis Vuitton loafers...lol!!! jmo

 

[DetectiveFoyleWannabe]

Oh, I agree, but a deal like she’ll avoid life in prison w/o parole, but she’ll still spend the next 30 years of her life locked in the slammer!

I doubt she will get that much time unfortunately. Would have to prove she actually conspired in advance in order for her to have risk of life sentence and reduce to 30 years. If they have that it would be great but my sense is they only have accessory after the fact evidence. Once the murder occurred, no matter how much she helped afterward there is no way she would get 30 years in my experience.

 

[DetectiveFoyleWannabe]

Thanks for the chuckle. Russell Speeders Car Wash isn’t going to be too happy with that rep.

FO forgot to ask the car wash for the “i murdered someone” detail package. A few extra bucks. MOO.

 

[Deleted member 229974]

I doubt she will get that much time unfortunately. Would have to prove she actually conspired in advance in order for her to have risk of life sentence and reduce to 30 years. If they have that it would be great but my sense is they only have accessory after the fact evidence. Once the murder occurred, no matter how much she helped afterward there is no way she would get 30 years in my experience.

Crap. Well, do we know that she knew of his plans to murder his wife?

 

[afitzy]

IMO, once he is indicted for murder, his constitutional right to a speedy trial begins to run as to that charge. Speedy trial is not the same as the statute of limitations (in most states, there isn't one for 1st murder). It begins to run only once FD is indicted for murder. NP strikes me as a "gotcha" lawyer (one of the most disliked, dare I say hated, type of lawyers among the Bar). Coangelo knows what he is doing and he certainly knows what NP is going to try to pull. He isn't going to let anything derail this prosecution. If 1st has to be charged by grand jury indictment in CT, as it does in most states, he also has to take his case to the grand jury so it can return an indictment. MOO!

I think we said on the first 2 charges that the 'speedy trial' date is 4/2020.

Colangelo has no reason to rush IMO on anything.

He has shut No Case Norm up with burying him in AW details from yesterday so hopefully the daily moaning to the press about nothing to work with will end or we will see the gag happen soon and won't have to listen to Pattis Patter ever again!

 

[oceancalling]

Remember when someone said LE doesn't have to/nor do they list all they know in arrest warrants? Taking that into consideration, I found it interesting that LE included such amazing photographs from an obvious meticulous investigation and only one had FD in it, with none showing MT. Point being, I think they have them and this was just another hand in the poker game they are playing with FO, Ho, and NP. For whatever we (or I myself for that matter) think of CT, it's judges, courts, proceedings, attorneys, criminality, etc. I have never seen a more professional and tight-lipped investigation. LE's got this.

Cockroaches flee when you turn on the light...

You rocked it so many points, particularly on the role of 80MS. The way you described it was chillingly accurate. I know lots of big time city detectives who have nothing on your "arm chair" sleuthing skills!

 

[afitzy]

Not sure if anyone noticed in the AW but they received the call from concerned friends at 6:59 pm and the AW then says they discovered the Suburban at Waveny Park at 7:00 pm? How is that possible?

Its not.

 

[Caroline Lago]

Now that we know LE has been meticulously piecing this story together, particularly the traveling of the cars, how many of you out there beleive she is most likely buried somewhere at

You are correct. Blood has a distinctly metallic smell and a human body produces a lot of blood. Post-mortem changes to the body also result is a smell that is noticeable, even before decomposition sets in. We know there were bloody items in those garbage bags, maybe even Jennifer herself was in them. And, of course, that does not even take into account the fact that MT and FD were 'cleaning" 80MS when EE arrived there on the day FD murdered Jennifer.

She is no innocent bystander. She is an active participant. For me, the only question is when her participation began, before or after FD murdered Jennifer. It is beginning to seem like she may have been involved in planning this murder long before she has told LE. The diminishment of her participation in the cover-up itself is what leads me conclude she is withholding information from LE even now.

Now that we know LE has been meticulously piecing this puzzle together for a long time, especially from the movement of vehicles, how many of you fellow sleuths think it's likely JD may be buried in a deep grave at 80MS where MT and FD were again "cleaning? FD clearly pre-meditated this and knew where he was going to put her body.

 

[dlharris2712]

Such an interesting question!

Reading through the AW from yesterday it was oddly silent in key parts IMO on MT and what she was/wasn't doing and where she was/wasn't on the 24th.

I've been trying to put together a MT timeline for the 24th - 29th and even with what we learned yesterday there are big gaps. I find this quite curious but don't think there is any mystery at all, it just wasn't disclosed by LE in the AW. Its OK IMO as LE have this all down pat, so all will be disclosed at the right time.

IMO these are intentional gaps by LE as to MT timeline as even though MT WASTED LE TIME FOR 81 DAYS, they must have her timeline down by now complete with CCTV where possible.

Looks like MT got 'religion' and only began to reluctantly cooperate on 8/13/19 so my guess is that to the extent she is able she is assisting LE with the last 25 miles of the FD trip in the EE Red Truck to figure out where the body was disposed of or whether it came back to 80MS. Even the MT comments in the AW indicated at best 'lukewarm' cooperation so I hope she is being treated appropriately by LE and gets no sweetheart deal as she is far from a sweetheart IMO!

The AW was fairly silent on the 'cleaning' that EE saw going on at 80MS being done by FO + HO (it looked to be both in the house and in the Red Truck). But we also don't clearly know yet how long MT was at 80MS and 'assisting' FD with whatever was going on there. Again, we see gaps in timeline for MT/HO.

We also don't have full details of MT phone pings in the latest arrest warrant even though LE references that she is an ATT customer and they used the pings I believe to place her in a couple of spots. So, IMO LE have the MT ping records but just didn't share them. This no doubt has to be highly stressful for No Case Norm! Sorry NOT SORRY NO CASE NORM!

Anyway, today my plan is to go back and try to put the pieces together on MT for the 24th through the Car Wash timeframe so any comments on this would be helpful and see exactly where the gaps are and then try to figure out what might have been going on with FO + HO.

IMO there is no denying MT knowledge in anything that happened to JD. I still am processing how a fellow mother could wait 81 days before stepping up to 'kinda' help in a very weak way IMO with the investigation is absolutely unconscionable. I don't buy for a second she was fearful as the AW states that FD was driving her to/from her atty meetings in Westport and they were traipsing around Farmington and Avon during this period living the 'good ole life'. Its mind blowing on so many levels to me and will take awhile to fully process I am sure!

MOO

While she is a mother - simply because she gave birth - at the end of the day - she is truly a word that begins with 'C'...I'll leave it to your imagination. Fyi..I am not a big fan of this word - but if the "hunt" fits...wear it! jmo

 

[oviedo]

The Range Rover stayed with the nanny according to all LE accounts. Jennifer had a Porsche that was parked in her garage and that vehicle had blood on it. This also is an established fact. IMO the Porsche from which the seats were removed is not the same Porsche as the one parked in Jennifer's garage. As part of the divorce filings, Jennifer alleged that FD almost ran over her with his vehicle and also specifically alleges he permitted one of the kids to drive it. This is the vehicle from which I believe the seats were taken. Two separate vehicles, one (in Jennifer's garage) with blood on it; he other (in FD's possession), where the replaced sets came from.

https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.tow...-11e9-991d-536198256533/5d704b7b09ca8.pdf.pdf

LE identifies the Porsche at the Jefferson Crossing house as registered to the victim - page 12. I believe FD drove that car to his house to remove the seats - else this is a big mistake by LE identifying the vehicle as incorrectly belonging to the victim. JMO

 

[Deleted member 229974]

FO forgot to ask the car wash for the “i murdered someone” detail package. A few extra bucks. MOO.

Probably not sneakers...but I am guessing Louis Vuitton loafers...lol!!! jmo

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[afitzy]

Sleuth, just read in NC paper that Waveny is
2.2 mi. from JD home which would be an easy
30 min. jog for FD.

Also anyone else notice in the AW LE says they
got phone data from carrier records and from
JD's PHONE> so they got the phone, I guess.

Actually I'm not sure they ever got the JD phone.

I just think its cosmic justice that it was JD phone that tracks the Suburban from Welles to Waveny!

The AW IMO was silent on the JD phone status and ping trail post Lapham Rd. and my guess is that is by design.

Wonder if/when FD ditched the JD phone or if he was such a control freak that he wanted to read each and every item on her phone!

Could his curiousity about the JD phone have effectively cooked his goose?!?!? We will have to see. FBI was in Waveny with the electronic sniffing dogs looking for devices.

I'm not convinced they ever found JD phone but I hope they did!

MOO

 

[oceancalling]

https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.tow...-11e9-991d-536198256533/5d704b7b09ca8.pdf.pdf

LE identifies the Porsche at the Jefferson Crossing house as registered to the victim - page 12. I believe FD drove that car to his house to remove the seats - else this is a big mistake by LE identifying the vehicle as incorrectly belonging to the victim. JMO

I believe they are two separate vehicles. LE has never alleged that FD removed Jennifer's Porsche from the garage; it was there when they arrived to investigate. Just because the other Porsche was still titled to Jennifer does not mean it was at her home; it was in FD's possession.

 

[Niner]

I found this in an article, but lost the link.... sorry!

Dulos was arrested on Wednesday (9/4/19) afternoon for the second time in connection with the case. He was charged for tampering with evidence involving the borrowed car from a work colleague on the same day his wife, Jennifer, disappeared that was later found to contain traces of her blood. Dulos was released on Wednesday after posting a $500,000 bond hours after he was taken into custody. His lawyer, Norm Pattis, said Dulos planned to plead not guilty at an arraignment scheduled next Thursday.

Looks like he has an arraignment for these charges on 9/5 - today??

I can't access CT court site - can anyone here? Or did I miss the post about this? TIA!

 

[enelram]

Now that we know LE has been meticulously piecing this story together, particularly the traveling of the cars, how many of you out there beleive she is most likely buried somewhere at


Now that we know LE has been meticulously piecing this puzzle together for a long time, especially from the movement of vehicles, how many of you fellow sleuths think it's likely JD may be buried in a deep grave at 80MS where MT and FD were again "cleaning? FD clearly pre-meditated this and knew where he was going to put her body.

My guess is still she's buried deep but nowhere near any of his property. FD knew he would be under scrutiny so IMO he wouldn't risk putting her anywhere connected to him.
But I would believe him to take her to a secured or owned by a friend property further
out in the boonies, more NW Ct.
There's loads of untamed acreage there where
almost no one ever walks or travels. Also
several large reservoirs but I still go back to a
deep burial in the ground.
He may have put her somewhere temporarily
for a few days and then taken her out for final burial the following week. There was a long
lapse between the 24th and the day he had
the truck detailed so IMO he had time to do
a final disposal after the 24th.
@afitzy, I agree we need to put all our heads together on the time span from 24th at noon
on I 84 and the 10 days following.
Lots of things happened here that aren't explained. The gaps have me scratching my head.

 

[oviedo]

I believe they are two separate vehicles. LE has never alleged that FD removed Jennifer's Porsche from the garage; it was there when they arrived to investigate. Just because the other Porsche was still titled to Jennifer does not mean it was at her home; it was in FD's possession.

Now that could be the case - if she had her Porsche in the garage but his Porsche was still titled in her name post -divorce - that would make sense but holy cow - leaving a car titled in her name but his possession is dangerous and I can't believe her divorce lawyer wouldn't have had her sign that title over to him just to be rid of the liability. Of course, they had not finalized the asset distribution so maybe she was not able to do this? In the very early threads, someone found all the vehicles and registrations - it's a small point but I would like to confirm that both vehicles were still registered in her name as of 5/31/19. JMO

 

[MassGuy]

I believe they are two separate vehicles. LE has never alleged that FD removed Jennifer's Porsche from the garage; it was there when they arrived to investigate. Just because the other Porsche was still titled to Jennifer does not mean it was at her home; it was in FD's possession.

Yeah. That vehicle certainly was not at her home at the time.

FD clearly had access to this vehicle, as the seats were exchanged with that red Tacoma.

 

[enelram]

I found this in an article, but lost the link.... sorry!

Dulos was arrested on Wednesday (9/4/19) afternoon for the second time in connection with the case. He was charged for tampering with evidence involving the borrowed car from a work colleague on the same day his wife, Jennifer, disappeared that was later found to contain traces of her blood. Dulos was released on Wednesday after posting a $500,000 bond hours after he was taken into custody. His lawyer, Norm Pattis, said Dulos planned to plead not guilty at an arraignment scheduled next Thursday.

Looks like he has an arraignment for these charges on 9/5 - today??

I can't access CT court site - can anyone here? Or did I miss the post about this? TIA!

9/12 Thurs. is his hearing- next week.