Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #21

[oviedo]

I found this in an article, but lost the link.... sorry!

Dulos was arrested on Wednesday (9/4/19) afternoon for the second time in connection with the case. He was charged for tampering with evidence involving the borrowed car from a work colleague on the same day his wife, Jennifer, disappeared that was later found to contain traces of her blood. Dulos was released on Wednesday after posting a $500,000 bond hours after he was taken into custody. His lawyer, Norm Pattis, said Dulos planned to plead not guilty at an arraignment scheduled next Thursday.

Looks like he has an arraignment for these charges on 9/5 - today??

I can't access CT court site - can anyone here? Or did I miss the post about this? TIA!

I think "next Thursday" is 9/12.

 

[Caroline Lago]

Actually I'm not sure they ever got the JD phone.

I just think its cosmic justice that it was JD phone that tracks the Suburban from Welles to Waveny!

The AW IMO was silent on the JD phone status and ping trail post Lapham Rd. and my guess is that is by design.

Wonder if/when FD ditched the JD phone or if he was such a control freak that he wanted to read each and every item on her phone!

Could his curiousity about the JD phone have effectively cooked his goose?!?!? We will have to see. FBI was in Waveny with the electronic sniffing dogs looking for devices.

I'm not convinced they ever found JD phone but I hope they did!

MOO

Yes, in the AW when they show JD's vehicle leaving Welles Lane with FD apparently at the wheel, it indicates that cellular data obtained from JDs cellphone is consistent with the phone moving from Welles Lane to Lapham, so FD likely took it with him because he's not all that smart. That bit of information alone is so damning...his victim could be tracked. I wonder when her cell phone stopped giving LE clues as to her location.

 

[Jealoushe]

To clarify vehicles;

I read it as the Tacoma already had different seats in it, it had seats from a Ford that were previously changed.

The request was to remove those and put the Porsche seats in, which he did.

He kept the "Ford" seats which were actually the ones in the Tacoma.

It is fairly easy to replace seats and done often when people make improvements to their car etc whether for show, comfort, racing etc.

 

[afitzy]

I don’t understand why PG said he kept the seats for the police. Was LE already involved at that point?

Yes, my guess is that LE used the bus cams to look at Lapham Rd parked vehicles and then they backtracked and checked them all out. Just a guess. MOO

 

[afitzy]

The Range Rover stayed with the nanny according to all LE accounts. Jennifer had a Porsche that was parked in her garage and that vehicle had blood on it. This also is an established fact. IMO the Porsche from which the seats were removed is not the same Porsche as the one parked in Jennifer's garage. As part of the divorce filings, Jennifer alleged that FD almost ran over her with his vehicle and also specifically alleges he permitted one of the kids to drive it. This is the vehicle from which I believe the seats were taken. Two separate vehicles, one (in Jennifer's garage) with blood on it; he other (in FD's possession), where the replaced sets came from.

I originally believed the 2 Porsche theory as well as we spent so much time going over the vehicle tax records. The current tax records in NC and Farmington just show a 2009 Porsche Cayenne.

Maybe another Porsche fell off the tax rolls in Farmington? I am going to go back and see if the vehicle involved in the FD I 84 accident might have been a Porsche?

I agree this is very confusing.

Originally when I read this I thought that JD had a Porsche Panorama which is a popular car in NC and has a 2 or 4 door configuration. But when I went back to look at the tax records such a sports car was nowhere to be found. I could have sworn that we talked about it sometime in the past but I guess my memory failed me on this one!

 

[dlharris2712]

...hair evidence might be in the vehicle because he’d hugged his estranged wife...Pretty sure this in no way, no how, not on God's green earth, if hell froze over, in any fairy tail that NP or Fo-D*** have been telling each other; did this happen...Fo-Dumbo is a JOKE!!! jmo

 

[dlharris2712]

hair evidence might be in the vehicle because he’d hugged his estranged wife

NP in that article is quoted as saying the State is trying to "wear down OUR will to exist?!" You mean like your sorry client did to his poor wife and her mother for years, and when he couldn't do that, he MURDERED her? The will to exist that poor Jennifer fought for in her own home.? That will?

When I think of Jennifer's final moments, I know that NP is as soulless as his client. How dare he talk of he and his client's will to exist when his client (excuse me) wiped the actual existence of a loving human being off the face of the earth! What a callous and unfeeling thing to say.

The C Team continues to dig itself into a hole from which it will never recover. A savvy defender would have, at most, said,"We have not had the opportunity to review the most recent charges, but we plan to vigorously defend Mr. Dulos against them." We call the types of repeated mistakes being made here 'forced errors' where I come from. Egg meet face.

I would prefer FIST MEET FACE...but that's just me. moo

 

[afitzy]

https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.tow...-11e9-991d-536198256533/5d704b7b09ca8.pdf.pdf

LE identifies the Porsche at the Jefferson Crossing house as registered to the victim - page 12. I believe FD drove that car to his house to remove the seats - else this is a big mistake by LE identifying the vehicle as incorrectly belonging to the victim. JMO

This part is very confusing still as it would mean that he would have had to go back to Welles again? Not getting this at all. There must be 2 different Porsches and we are only seeing 1 on the tax rolls. MOO

 

[oviedo]

To clarify vehicles;

I read it as the Tacoma already had different seats in it, it had seats from a Ford that were previously changed.

The request was to remove those and put the Porsche seats in, which he did.

He kept the "Ford" seats which were actually the ones in the Tacoma.

It is fairly easy to replace seats and done often when people make improvements to their car etc whether for show, comfort, racing etc.

Please help me out here - what paragraph has this information regarding the Tacoma having Ford seats? Para 13 is the one that specifies he was instructed to put the Porsche Cayenne seats in the Tacoma - I'm still re-reading the warrant so it could be further down. Thanks

 

[DetectiveFoyleWannabe]

Crap. Well, do we know that she knew of his plans to murder his wife?

No we don’t from the AW but perhaps there is some evidence of conspiracy.

 

[DetectiveFoyleWannabe]

Please help me out here - what paragraph has this information regarding the Tacoma having Ford seats? Para 13 is the one that specifies he was instructed to put the Porsche Cayenne seats in the Tacoma - I'm still re-reading the warrant so it could be further down. Thanks

Can’t remember the paragraph but it’s somewhere near end and it is a Note in parentheses that the Tacoma had Ford sets in it at the time of the crime.

 

[oviedo]

This part is very confusing still as it would mean that he would have had to go back to Welles again? Not getting this at all. There must be 2 different Porsches and we are only seeing 1 on the tax rolls. MOO

I know - it is confusing. I think this whole seat switch thing is important to this case - it shows FD knew something happened in that Tacoma that he needed to make go away - and the flimsy excuse of the hug/hair transfer is ridiculous. I want to get this straightened out in my mind.

When JD left - she took 3 vehicles? Her Suburban, the Range Rover and the Porsche, right?

He ended up with the vehicles registered to Fore Group - the Jeep, Suburban, Ford truck and the other Porsche?

Guess I need to go check out our early threads. I know we laid vehicles out - it's probably in the timeline. JMO

 

[oviedo]

Can’t remember the paragraph but it’s somewhere near end and it is a Note in parentheses that the Tacoma had Ford sets in it at the time of the crime.

Thank you !! Para 16 and 17 - now I'm baffled. The Tacoma had Ford seats in it on 5/24 and then on 5/31 FD wanted to pull those out and put the Porsche seats in? I've suspected the Tacoma had bloody seats (true) and that's why FD wanted them pulled out but were these Ford seats in the Tacoma on 5/21 (or when he left the Tacoma at FD's house)? Jeez.

 

[afitzy]

NC Patch article about AW:
New Details On How Jennifer Dulos May Have Died: Warrant

 

[bubby girl]

MT has a very, very long road to redemption. I have said from day one, she has a choice, but if she is to get the benefit of cooperation, she has to be 100% truthful to LE. IMO she still hasn't revealed all she knows. Where is the body MT? She saw Jennifer's body, IMO. If not, why was she present for the clean up? Why did she drive EE's truck away from 80MS otherwise.

I would also like to recall something thekirbyfamily told us after that magnificent trek into the heart of FD's darkness at 80MS. Kirby TOLD us there was something about that place, there was a presence of Jennifer, like Jennifer was trying to tell us to pay attention, an eery feeling that this residence was going to be very significant once LE finished its investigation. How prescient, how insightful. Arm chair sleuths, indeed.

Totally agree!!!

That house will never sell now..

 

[nina318]

You are correct. Blood has a distinctly metallic smell and a human body produces a lot of blood. Post-mortem changes to the body also result is a smell that is noticeable, even before decomposition sets in. We know there were bloody items in those garbage bags, maybe even Jennifer herself was in them. And, of course, that does not even take into account the fact that MT and FD were 'cleaning" 80MS when EE arrived there on the day FD murdered Jennifer.

She is no innocent bystander. She is an active participant. For me, the only question is when her participation began, before or after FD murdered Jennifer. It is beginning to seem like she may have been involved in planning this murder long before she has told LE. The diminishment of her participation in the cover-up itself is what leads me conclude she is withholding information from LE even now.

IMO the motive for this murder is financial gain. MT had access to all FORE financial transactions. This, combined with her shady, jet-setting past and her mother's criminal activity in Florida, leads me to believe she has been involved from the start. I, too, believe she is still withholding information from LE. MOO!!

 

[pandaknows]

Yes, in the AW when they show JD's vehicle leaving Welles Lane with FD apparently at the wheel, it indicates that cellular data obtained from JDs cellphone is consistent with the phone moving from Welles Lane to Lapham, so FD likely took it with him because he's not all that smart. That bit of information alone is so damning...his victim could be tracked. I wonder when her cell phone stopped giving LE clues as to her location.

@afitzy and @Caroline Lago I like both your ideas about FD trying to snoop in JD's phone and cooking his goose by holding on to it for longer that one second. IMO, if the EE was smart enough to keep some blood covered car seats to cover his a**, wouldn't FO and HO individually have held something back that implicates each other in the actual murder/conspiracy before hand which carries the same sentence after taking into account the aggravating factors? Does FO think that he has a solution to the prisoner's dilemma a la the house always wins? Not quite, FO, not quite. There is something you didn't learn in math class or Cap Gemini. Professional ethics. Some older professionals know that this murder investigation and the corruption investigation that will surely follow into the next 5-10 years+ will leave no stone unturned and no guilty party unpunished. I still believe in CT Justice for Jennifer. MOO.

 

[MsJosie]

NC Patch article about AW:
New Details On How Jennifer Dulos May Have Died: Warrant

His smirking....thinks he is going to win. I am surprised he has not fired and hire another lawyer....but then he may stick with this guy and then claim he was not fairly represented for an appeal.

Wonder what LE knows that the are holding back until his @$$ is arrested. It’s coming.

 

[Jmoose]

This is good news and what I wanted to hear. I'd like to see him LE charge him with murder, but at least, for now, they've charged him with additional evidence charges, released a timeline, and video evidence. Folks gave me a hard time on him wanting to see his kids but I felt I needed to know more from LE. Well, I've got that now. I'd still like to him him charged with murder.

Welcome aboard the Conviction for Fotis Express, BluesClues!

 

[Mimi in London]

IMO JD was still in EE’s truck when he turned up at MS. I just don’t believe they’d have planned to take her into the house as they must have known LE would comb the place with sniffer dogs and Luminol.

EE says FD gets him to help ‘shuttle cars’ between MS and JX on the afternoon of 5/24. As someone mentioned, this seems unnecessary as both their cars were already at MS.

Was the car shuttling just a charade to get EE away from his truck and the MS property, once they realised he wasn’t going to just leave in the Raptor?

https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.tow...-11e9-991d-536198256533/5d704b7b09ca8.pdf.pdf

LE identifies the Porsche at the Jefferson Crossing house as registered to the victim - page 12. I believe FD drove that car to his house to remove the seats - else this is a big mistake by LE identifying the vehicle as incorrectly belonging to the victim. JMO

Did it have the added benefit that MT’s car would then be at MS? Why would they need an extra vehicle at that point? Maybe it was the beaten-up Porsche and they were thinking of swapping out the seats that evening.

The reference to ‘THE (dented? damaged?) Porsche in the AW suggests to me that 1) that particular car and its damage has been discussed at an earlier point, and 2) that there may be a second Porsche.