Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #23

[3blue1pink]

Apparently, MT told LE that FD returned home to 4JX sometime between noon and 1:30 pm that day, and they shared a 15 minute lunch together.

Interesting how she nailed down the amount of time eating lunch but can only give an hour and a half window of when he might have been home .

 

[citygirl]

Patch Update:
New Search For Missing New Canaan Mom In West Hartford: Report

This report mentions that dogs were present today at the search.

But what are they looking for?
Could this be an early part of the Albany Ave spree?
How does this fit into the time line?
Is this location the beginning of the 4 mile drive down Albany Ave?

 

[Svyt]

Of the gad order:

“It changes nothing," Pattis said.

Like what!?

Unless you’re with most of the thinking public, it changes EVERYTHING cause we won’t have to hear (or hopefully see) your utterly lame ridiculous alternate universe nobodys-buying-it-norm theories anymore.

Hey though, since mum’s the word and you’re less public as of today...maybe a good Opportunity for you to restyle your demeanor or at least YOUR hair...there’s enough for a hipster he-hive. IMO.

(Back to catching up. Actually reading AW’s! Watched that fascinating YouTube -the guy that calls FD Fructose lol, and trying to comb through stuff in deference to all you amazing hard workers/thinkers on the case. We all love you )

 

[afitzy]

Confirmation that the dogs being used on the ground in Farmington are cadaver dogs.

Jennifer Dulos disappearance: State police resume search of West Hartford reservoirs

Quotes from article:

WEST HARTFORD — A few hours after Fotis Dulos pleaded not guilty Thursday to a new charge in the disappearance of his wife, state police investigators descended on reservoirs near his Farmington home.

There was a heavy police presence at the MDC reservoirs off Farmington Avenue Thursday afternoon as officers and police dogs renewed their search of the area. According to WTNH, officials are using cadaver sniffing dogs — used to detect human remains — to search areas near the water.

The reservoirs are separated by about a half-mile of woods from the back of Fotis Dulos’ house at 4 Jefferson Crossing, and it has been a point of interest for investigators since Jennifer Dulos disappeared on May 24.
When contacted about the search in West Hartford, New Canaan Police Lt. Jason Ferraro said the gag order prevented him from commenting on the case.

“No information will be provided from this date forward regarding this case until the order is lifted or additional arrests are made,” he wrote in an email.

 

[afitzy]

But what are they looking for?
Could this be an early part of the Albany Ave spree?
How does this fit into the time line?
Is this location the beginning of the 4 mile drive down Albany Ave?

No not near Albany, this location is according to GT:
"The reservoirs are separated by about a half-mile of woods from the back of Fotis Dulos’ house at 4 Jefferson Crossing, and it has been a point of interest for investigators since Jennifer Dulos disappeared on May 24".

 

[Alkali13]

Confirmation that the dogs being used on the ground in Farmington are cadaver dogs.

Jennifer Dulos disappearance: State police resume search of West Hartford reservoirs

Quotes from article:

WEST HARTFORD — A few hours after Fotis Dulos pleaded not guilty Thursday to a new charge in the disappearance of his wife, state police investigators descended on reservoirs near his Farmington home.

There was a heavy police presence at the MDC reservoirs off Farmington Avenue Thursday afternoon as officers and police dogs renewed their search of the area. According to WTNH, officials are using cadaver sniffing dogs — used to detect human remains — to search areas near the water.

The reservoirs are separated by about a half-mile of woods from the back of Fotis Dulos’ house at 4 Jefferson Crossing, and it has been a point of interest for investigators since Jennifer Dulos disappeared on May 24.
When contacted about the search in West Hartford, New Canaan Police Lt. Jason Ferraro said the gag order prevented him from commenting on the case.

“No information will be provided from this date forward regarding this case until the order is lifted or additional arrests are made,” he wrote in an email.

Well, I guess we know exactly what they're looking for. Hoping for a canopy.

 

[sleuth66]

I see your point, and that was just my own opinion. I don't believe that it is the NCPD's fault. I just do not personally think that they are equipped with the resources nor experience to tackle this investigation with the amount of force that it needs. Local law enforcement in the area I am sure is making it a priority. But I question the length of the investigation, and after seeing the amount of overtime the officers have worked on the case, I just worry that they are in over their heads. MOO

I see the frustration with a PD that spends most of their time hiding behind bushes to give out speeding tickets and sleuthing out underage drinking at HS parties.
On the other hand, what has been absolutely invaluable in this case, IMO, is the very quick speed with which LE, beginning from the very first minute of the missing report being called into NCPD, has acted. If JD lived in another municipality where there were higher rates of crime (yes, many very nice upscale places that people like JD live happen to be contained within and thus served by municipalities and PD that include urban high crime areas as well) then the response might not have been as fast and taken as high priority. This is a very complicated case with some very bad, intentionally bad actors involved who put a lot of time into thinking about how to foil and mislead LE when they carried out their crime.
NCPD was able to prioritize this case, call the nanny to get permission to enter, find her car, ID the bloodstains, and call in the state crime scene processing unit incredibly quickly on a timescale that would not happen in a bigger place with a more taxing crime scene, lower paid officers, etc. Not only that, NCPD was able to interview and wrest the phone away from FD very quickly that weekend. They apparently did not flub up in getting a warrant to search it either.
I also want to point out that to his credit, far prior to this case, Chief Krowlikowski has spoken and written about DV as "New Canaan's violent crime" and I want to thank him for that if nothing else. I know he has his critics and I am not here by any means to champion NCPD unconditionally but this is the crux of why we are all here in this forum, because DV is such a serious and widespread problem and because even all the money and privilege in the world doesn't prevent these outcomes.
MOO.
Police Chief: Domestic Violence ‘Is New Canaan’s Violent Crime’

 

[sds71]

@sds71, thanks for posting. I'm not seeing why the court would not be making documents public. Do you think the Press just misunderstood what this all meant? Confused. Thanks! MOO

That may be in the memorandum.
I haven’t seen it posted yet.

 

[enelram]

But what are they looking for?
Could this be an early part of the Albany Ave spree?
How does this fit into the time line?
Is this location the beginning of the 4 mile drive down Albany Ave?

1- We don't know
2- not too far away
It's just odd to me that this is the 3rd search of
this area reported in msm. I have to think there's something to it.

 

[Alkali13]

No not near Albany, this location is according to GT:
"The reservoirs are separated by about a half-mile of woods from the back of Fotis Dulos’ house at 4 Jefferson Crossing, and it has been a point of interest for investigators since Jennifer Dulos disappeared on May 24".

It's also not technically on the way to Albany, especially if they're near reservoir 6.

 

[Jmoose]

SA on "gag order ruling"

Jennifer Dulos case: Judge grants gag order, Pattis says ‘it changes nothing’

Quotes from article:

“The court finds that a substantial likelihood exists that the continued dissemination of extrajudicial comments by the parties identified in this order carries a substantial likelihood of materially prejudicing a fair trial in this case,” Blawie wrote in his order".

“The court finds that entering a narrowly-tailored order is the least restrictive means of ensuing and safeguarding the right to a fair trial for the benefit of the defendant, the state and the public.”

He said the order applies to the state, defendant, as well as their “respective associates.”

"Defense attorney Norm Pattis said the order “merely restated existing law.”

It better change one thing-that Pattis can’t keep pulling lies out of his a**, and running them up the media flagpole. Really, he pretends to be fighting the prejudice against FD because of leaks coming from the prosecution; there hasn’t been any of that. If he is talking about all the chatter here and on other social media, well, we are entitled to our educated opinions, based on the interviews FD has been giving.

 

[MemPat]

I’m at my usual countless pages behind, and typically try to catch up before posting, but since you directly address your post personally to me, I’m going to jump right in. To others desperately trying to keep up,I apologize in advance if some of my thoughts are repetitive!! I know everyone only has so much time to read and contribute to this forum each day!


My theory is just a theory; a suggestion of a way to analyze the information we have in order to reach a conclusion. I am not sure what you mean by whether or not I put it here in “good faith”? I made the suggestion as a way to fill in an equation that I felt was not adding up. My intentions were as honest as everyone else on WS who is throwing out suggestions, theories or hypotheses in trying to ‘solve’ this murder. Also like most WSers, I have no first person knowledge or personal involvement in this issue! I have nothing to gain or lose in the outcome of this case, and therefore would not intentionally post anything meant to deceive or falsely direct free thinking!

I’m more than a little taken aback by your suggestion that I may be. If you read my previous posts, I have been clear about my process of flow chart thinking and my approach to analysis.


That said, I’m really more taken aback by your statement, “I also am certain Pattis is doing a fist pump as he reads it”, in regard to my post! I don’t know where to start...Do you really imagine NP is sitting around keeping abreast of WS??? I mean, it takes quite a bit of time to get through these pages. You actually think between filing ridiculously superfluous motions, grandstanding on whatever air time he can find, shuffling between clients and meetings, spending his time on his couch, and just thinking deeply in general, he is now “fist pumping” over my post? Like he’s digging through countless blogs to come up with that one idea, one morsel from someone so far removed from the case that it’s going to be the “yes” moment he’s looking for? I sincerely doubt my theory is the gem for which he has been searching. I’m sorry, but to me that’s almost laughable.


I’m going to go out on a very short limb here to say, if I’ve thought it, guaranteed NP or his minions have thought it. And I’m going to also propose quite strongly, that my suggestions about anger felt by MT are most likely correct, as they’re realistic emotions experienced someone in her position. I said previously exactly what I meant, the equation doesn’t add up TO ME. I suggested, in order for FD to potentially trade a divorce action for a murder charge , there had to be a catalyst- rage. I suggested that catalyst may be found in the other person 100 % directly involved in FDs life; the person who had completely turned her life upside down to be with him, and the person FD and NP would absolutely be trying to manipulate the most.


I think you’re incorrect in assuming FD would simply move on from MT if she was making “demands”. You’re forgetting my major premise, ‘follow the money’. It seems apparent, MT is drenched in the shenanigans of FORE and who knows what else. She may have not been so easily dumped. She knows a lot. There is that peaty bank loan for one. MT also put a lot on the line to finally end up at JC. And she put her child there with her. In my estimation, as the holiday weekend loomed, the first with 5 additional children taking their father’s time, MT was a little out of sorts. I will go back to my original question. Where were MT and her child supposed to spend the weekend? Do you know?


I think it’s more important to examine the “good faith” offered by MT in this scenario than me; the “good faith” she has exhibited since meeting a married father of five through the violent disappearance of his wife; the “ good faith” she has exhibited by lying through the investigation. IMO NP is fist pumping over her inability to be honest, not my ability to ‘add’. IMO AB is rueing the day he met MT and FD. IMO both FD and MT are thick as thieves. IMO JD deserved much better. May she Rest In Peace.

MOO

Great post, Chicago54. I have pages of posts to read before I'm caught up but I have one question:

You weren't also "taken aback" by Ruminations calling MT "pretty"?

Could anyone state that in "good faith"?

 

[Caroline Lago]

The red truck was somewhere along Lapham Road, and JD's car was found abandoned on that road as well. The road borders Waveny Park, which the police thoroughly searched with helicopters and K-9 units the day after she was reported missing and they discovered her car.

The woods in this area go for miles, especially along the Merritt Parkway. What can helicopters really see through the woods?! Though the FBI and K9 dogs investigated, let's face it, sometimes they stop at a certain point, when the crucial point might lie just ahead. Another thought came to mind, how many people who have known/worked with FD would say that his extreme buzz haircut was totally out of character for him when he was first arrested. In every pre-suspect picture, he has luscious lucks, even in his last arrest picture. That buzz cut was a red flag in and by itself! Don't let anyone pull my hair!

 

[Jmoose]

NP says the gag order "changes nothing" and "Merely restates existing law." If it "changes nothing" and merely restated existing law, then why didn't he gag himself up to now?

(NP =No Principles. Moron. He looks like an incel, on top of it.)

He won’t gag himself-he said he wouldn’t

 

[MsBetsy]

It has already begun. He was enamored with her. She sucked him in like the vixen she is. Not love. Never love. Only fascination. MOO.

And possibly love sickness. He wasn't in his right mind. Imo

 

[afitzy]

I see your point, and that was just my own opinion. I don't believe that it is the NCPD's fault. I just do not personally think that they are equipped with the resources nor experience to tackle this investigation with the amount of force that it needs. Local law enforcement in the area I am sure is making it a priority. But I question the length of the investigation, and after seeing the amount of overtime the officers have worked on the case, I just worry that they are in over their heads. MOO

The investigation is not a solo operation of the NCPD.

I would refer you to the first arrest warrant as well as the second arrest warrant which makes it clear that this is a sizable operation being run by CT State Police along with Federal authorites including the FBI. NCPD IMMEDIATELY contacted State Police in this case so this was NEVER IMO a NCPD solo operation. NCPD knew they had a 'violent assault' on their hands immediately and IMO brought in outside help to process the scene at Welles.

Here is the language describing the individuals involved with this case from the first AW Section 5:

5. The New Canaan Police Department contacted the Connecticut State Police

Western District Major Crime Squad (WDMCS) for investigative and crime

scene processing. From this point forward, this case proceeded as a Joint

investigation between New Canaan Police, Connecticut State Police, andother federal and local agencies.

 

[MassGuy]

Interesting how she nailed down the amount of time eating lunch but can only give an hour and a half window of when he might have been home .

And seriously. This man just came back from murdering his wife. He still had bags of bloody items and likely a body to dump.

But they sat down to lunch.

Give me a break.

 

[afitzy]

The red truck was somewhere along Lapham Road, and JD's car was found abandoned on that road as well. The road borders Waveny Park, which the police thoroughly searched with helicopters and K-9 units the day after she was reported missing and they discovered her car.

JD Suburban was found at Waveny Park on the same day she was reporting missing 4/24/19. The Suburban was found shortly after 7 pm. The Source of this information is the first AW.

 

[BellaVita]

Interesting how she nailed down the amount of time eating lunch but can only give an hour and a half window of when he might have been home .

We know from AW2 that FD arrived at MS at 12:22. Nothing confirmed after that as to when he got to 4JC unless I have missed that info.

 

[MsBetsy]

1- We don't know
2- not too far away
It's just odd to me that this is the 3rd search of
this area reported in msm. I have to think there's something to it.

Why now? Is the scorned lover talking?