Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #28

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MsJosie said:
and that is why with the violation of the gag order he needs to be in jail....moo
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Amen to that! If only the were both in jail from the beginning, we wouldn’t have to be dealing with ankle bracelet neglect/tampering, gag orders, secret hand signals, risk of absconding justice etc.
 
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spaz1959 said:
You know I think these court appearances are starting to annoy MT!
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This isn't today.
Afitzy had mentioned her sister came to one of the court appearances.
MOO
 
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afitzy said:
Yes, but he has multiple vehicles, gas, insurance, taxes on real estate that he has been paying and food etc. Entire situation IMO is an absolute SHAM!
MOO
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I was just being silly on the mortgage; I have no idea how he’s doing it but feel sure it’s nefarious! :) MOO.
 
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Caroline Lago said:
I'm surprised FD's page is up again on that social media site because it had been inactive for a while. His friends are no longer
visible as they once were...can't imagine why!
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Wow. I don’t know much about FB and related sites; do you mean the public can see his pages?
 
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dkryder said:
as far as the two using unknown phones, LE does have a remedy if they care to wade into the possible legal mind field. it's known as a mobile stingray device. in active mode it acts like a cell tower. basically local phones connect and info from the phone is collected, the voice aspect is not. by using at location where target is the idea is that reoccurring numbers or even just IMSI info determines those devices are probably being used by the target then it's just a jump to other tech to record. i've read that u.s. govt. agencies as well as foreign govt use them quite a bit. fbi has also. current theory is some group, supposedly Israel, has been using those to monitor trump. fbi supposedly used one to gain infos on trumps one-time lawyer Michael Cohen. many times one reason fbi is brought into an investigation is due to that agency having ability to use this tech. MOO
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That is just so interesting! I learn so much here! Thank you!
 
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afitzy said:
Isn't the Atty. P disciplinary hearing in the Jones case coming up soon?

Here is DA's story about the situation with the Pattis disciplinary hearing:

Lawyer for Alex Jones faces possible censure for submitting false affidavit in Sandy Hook lawsuit

Interesting quotes from the article to 'explain the improperly signed affidavit"

“We were up against a strict timeline. Mr. Jones was in Texas. Two representatives of his were with me in Connecticut, one with power of attorney, the other an attorney and Mr. Jones swore to the truth of his statement,” Pattis said. [BBM - doesn't this sound like something a 5th grader would say when their homework dropped down a storm drain and they wanted to stay out playing rather than going home and redoing their homework or some other wacky 🤬🤬🤬 excuse a 5th grader might come up with?]

“The Sandy Hook plaintiffs are doing all they can to leverage discovery issues to avoid a decision on the merits as to our motion to dismiss,” Pattis said. [BBM - OK, here comes the adversary, I'm under attack and the bombs are dropping, situation is dire and I have absolutely NO CHOICE but to do something unlawful - the CHOICE IS TAKEN AWAY FROM ME BY THE BEHAVIOUR OF THE OTHER PARTY]!

Chris Mattei, a lawyer for the families, said they had no position on the affidavit dispute.

“We believe that is an issue between you and his (Jones) attorney,” Mattei said.


I haven't been following this Jones case that closely but what immediately jumped out at me in this particular situation was that YET AGAIN Atty. P resorted to "WHATEVER WORKS" tactics and then turned around and blamed others (in this case the Sandy Hook plaintiffs) for creating a scenario where doing the legal and technically correct thing simply wasn't an option!

What I find so stunning in watching these 'Pattis events' play out it that external forces can simply push him to the point of doing things that are simply against the law and over and over there are no consequences for unlawful choices. In the Jones case it was allegedly filing a false affidavit and in the Dulos Family Court matter it was leaking a sealed draft psych report to the press because he was 'trying to avert a hit job by the press against his client'. We see this compulsive behaviour over and over and the lack of moral and ethical framework doesn't seem to exist to temper these impulses and IMO this is disturbing to see in a legal professional.

I really wonder if Atty. P. when he is in these moments where a decision must be made about doing something or doing the right thing, whether he is simply incapable of doing anything but whatever works to accomplish his goal at that particular moment? Scary to have the inability to make a clear cut choice on right or wrong decisions and not be able to control bad/unlawful impulses, but Atty. P I sense simply rolls the dice on these things and hopes to not be caught or called out.

Sadly IMO nothing about the Pattis behaviour will ever change if Judge's like Judge Heller don't call him out or report him or censure him or fine him or refer his behaviour to the CT Bar for review. Further none of the Atty's dealing with Pattis in the Family Court matter regarding the psych report appear to have reported him either. My recollection of the matter was that Atty. Dranginis was so 'exercised' by the matter that she personally went to go visit Pattis to address the situation about the psych report. But, so far as I have been able to figure out it doesn't appear she or any of her partners reported Atty. P either. Wonder why? Guess it simply looks like this is what is meant by 'professional courtesy' in the State of CT amongst members of the bar.

MOO MOO MOO
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The CT Supreme Court heard the arguments one week ago. They haven't issued a ruling to date (at least that I'm aware or can find).

Norm's arguments sound a great deal like his statements relating to his representation of Dulos. It is not my fault....the judge was wrong.
From the outstanding HC....I had to read almost one half of the article before the "lawyer representing Alex Jones" was identified:

The justices challenged Pattis on why he didn’t ask the judge to hold a hearing or file a motion for her to reconsider the decision to take away Jones ability to file a special motion to dismiss. Pattis said her ruling so violated Jones’ First Amendment rights that he decided it wasn’t worth it.

Normally the Supreme Court doesn’t take appeals on cases until they have been completely adjudicated. Pattis filed what is called a public interest appeal arguing that the issue was important enough for the court to hear arguments on it in the middle of the case. The ruling has halted the civil case in front of Bellis.

They also pointed out the fact in her ruling Bellis spelled out all of the issues, with Jones not complying with discovery as another reason why she was sanctioning him.

“It didn’t occur to me in my wildest dreams that she was going to deny our motion without even having a hearing,” Pattis said.

Supreme Court hears arguments on Alex Jones civil case with Sandy Hook families

MOO
 
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afitzy said:
Yes
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The 1st photo is when he was breaking the court order (not to allow his children to be in MT / her daughter’s company) And then FD asked his innocent children to lie to their mom and the court.
 
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JillR said:
The 1st photo is when he was breaking the court order (not to allow his children to be in MT / her daughter’s company) And then FD asked his innocent children to lie to their mom and the court.
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Yes, isn't it stunning to still see these pictures defiantly shared TO THIS DAY on FB!

What kind of message is FD sharing with his children about basic respect, self respect, let alone respect of the LAW? These pictures IMO send the message of defiance and absolute lack of respect to JD, Judge Heller, Family Court and the rule of law in CT. Ditto on this entire paragraph for MT as she was there and not only that brought her daughter into the entire situation of defiance of the court order regarding the Dulos children. What parent would do such a thing? We have our answers, FD and MT!

I do hope to one day see where each and every choice FD has ever made with regard to his life, children and marriage will be laid BARE in court when the inevitable IMO day comes to terminate his parental rights occurs and the 5 children will no longer be faced with having FD in their lives legally. This FB picture to me can simply be another exhibit as to why some people should just not be parents. What kind of sick mind would even think that that picture of the Dulos Family with MT and daughter represented "Winning" on any level? Delusion pure and simple IMO. I truly wonder if the FD Greek Family are aware of the depths of the psychological damage that FD inflicted on his entire family and in particular his oldest sons? Could they know all this and yet still defend FD as publicly as they seem to have done in this case? IDK. I know there are 2 sides to every story but I cannot come up with any second side to justify any of the FD behaviour in Family Court.

Its not only the prioritising of the relationship with MT and her daughter over his own 5 children regarding the Family Court order for over 8 months but it was the ongoing actions of using his 2 oldest children to lie on his behalf to the detriment of their mental health that I believe will eventually be Exhibit A in the case against FD being a parent. But the kicker in this entire situation was how both MT and FD used MT daughter as part of their entire scheme as well and this in my mind was what made it all so sick and diabolical. Any of the comments here IMO could be applied directly to MT without qualification as to parental decision making (or lack thereof IMO).

Why the State of CT did not intervene to protect the Dulos children is a mystery to me and I truly wonder if any case can be made to support malpractice against GAL Meehan as he was supposedly in place TO SAFEGUARD THE INTERESTS OF THE DULOS CHILDREN! GAL Meehan by all accounts seems to have 'melted away' when the older children needed him most and I truly wonder why this might have been the case?

Given the seals in place on the records its impossible to answer any of these questions. We do know both sets of attys have put in motions to terminate GAL Meehan but it appears that Judge Heller has not yet done so. I just have to wonder what is causing the delay in terminating GAL Meehan? We saw his clear role in the 'stolen psych report' and prior to this his choices regarding the safeguarding of the oldest Dulos children. Why did GAL Meehan not petition the court about the situation with the ongoing games being played by MT, FD and her daughter with regard to the court order that 'MT not be present when the Dulos children are present' and how FD and MT twisted this order to mean that because MT daughter was not technically included in the order that it was somehow OK for her to be present with the Dulos children. IDK, but if the GAL were aware of this entire situation going on at 4Jx where MT daughter was with the Dulos children when they visited (while MT was absent) and did nothing you really have to wonder how this was justified based on the fact that the GAL mission is to safeguard the interests of the children? How many other similar type judgment calls were made by GAL Meehan about the children such that the situation evolved to the point where JD atty called for him to be terminated? Where was Judge Heller when all this was going on too?

IMO this is all so profoundly disturbing and deeply upsetting that we have all these so called 'professionals' surrounding a family situation that seemed to be clearly spiralling and that there was no intervention. I know looking back is sometimes not productive, but in this case I truly do wonder if putting FD in jail for any period of time to extricate him from a situation where he couldn't control himself, might have better safeguarded his children and averted any disastrous consequences. The situation in Family Court IMO was simply heartbreaking.


MOO
 
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JillR said:
JD said he fantasized about seeking revenge on people who did him wrong. She mentioned the word “sick”. Everyone has to let their mind go to dark places. Think of movies he may have seen or areas that he knew of that were appealing to him. Maybe new development areas that are currently desolate.
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Ok , good point.

I’m going to rule out the dumpster switching for now . I’ll assume LE thought of it and interviewed all the drivers that day . LE also met with crowbar guy .

I’m going to take an educated guess that FD wouldn’t know how to mix a bag of concrete to save his life to anchor her down in water .
He could have used cinder blocks, bricks whatnot but ..

He didn’t have access to a boat on any reservoir , he couldn’t just slide her off the bank and into the water . I seriously don’t think he had enough time to get her to a body of water .

If he disposed of JD’s body himself with no accomplice other than MT (maybe), that just leaves the:

Shovel and the knife

So, your movie plot idea got me thinking .

*He could have dismembered her body, cut it up and froze the parts .

*Made a stew fed to a dog /pig , Buried the stew .

*Boiled body parts then used a blender or Grinder , made chili and it’s been sitting in
His freezer ever since ..

According to MT ,they had lunch that day (granted that could be a lie) . So, that places him at his home .

This theory seems too bloody though and where would he have chopped her up without leaving any DNA.

That leaves the SHOVEL ...
 
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afitzy said:
Yes, isn't it stunning to still see these pictures defiantly shared TO THIS DAY on FB!

What kind of message is FD sharing with his children about basic respect, self respect, let alone respect of the LAW? These pictures IMO send the message of defiance and absolute lack of respect to JD, Judge Heller, Family Court and the rule of law in CT. Ditto on this entire paragraph for MT as she was there and not only that brought her daughter into the entire situation of defiance of the court order regarding the Dulos children. What parent would do such a thing? We have our answers, FD and MT!

I do hope to one day see where each and every choice FD has ever made with regard to his life, children and marriage will be laid BARE in court when the inevitable IMO day comes to terminate his parental rights occurs and the 5 children will no longer be faced with having FD in their lives legally. This FB picture to me can simply be another exhibit as to why some people should just not be parents. What kind of sick mind would even think that that picture of the Dulos Family with MT and daughter represented "Winning" on any level? Delusion pure and simple IMO. I truly wonder if the FD Greek Family are aware of the depths of the psychological damage that FD inflicted on his entire family and in particular his oldest sons? Could they know all this and yet still defend FD as publicly as they seem to have done in this case? IDK. I know there are 2 sides to every story but I cannot come up with any second side to justify any of the FD behaviour in Family Court.

Its not only the prioritising of the relationship with MT and her daughter over his own 5 children regarding the Family Court order for over 8 months but it was the ongoing actions of using his 2 oldest children to lie on his behalf to the detriment of their mental health that I believe will eventually be Exhibit A in the case against FD being a parent. But the kicker in this entire situation was how both MT and FD used MT daughter as part of their entire scheme as well and this in my mind was what made it all so sick and diabolical. Any of the comments here IMO could be applied directly to MT without qualification as to parental decision making (or lack thereof IMO).

Why the State of CT did not intervene to protect the Dulos children is a mystery to me and I truly wonder if any case can be made to support malpractice against GAL Meehan as he was supposedly in place TO SAFEGUARD THE INTERESTS OF THE DULOS CHILDREN! GAL Meehan by all accounts seems to have 'melted away' when the older children needed him most and I truly wonder why this might have been the case?

Given the seals in place on the records its impossible to answer any of these questions. We do know both sets of attys have put in motions to terminate GAL Meehan but it appears that Judge Heller has not yet done so. I just have to wonder what is causing the delay in terminating GAL Meehan? We saw his clear role in the 'stolen psych report' and prior to this his choices regarding the safeguarding of the oldest Dulos children. Why did GAL Meehan not petition the court about the situation with the ongoing games being played by MT, FD and her daughter with regard to the court order that 'MT not be present when the Dulos children are present' and how FD and MT twisted this order to mean that because MT daughter was not technically included in the order that it was somehow OK for her to be present with the Dulos children. IDK, but if the GAL were aware of this entire situation going on at 4Jx where MT daughter was with the Dulos children when they visited (while MT was absent) and did nothing you really have to wonder how this was justified based on the fact that the GAL mission is to safeguard the interests of the children? How many other similar type judgment calls were made by GAL Meehan about the children such that the situation evolved to the point where JD atty called for him to be terminated? Where was Judge Heller when all this was going on too?

IMO this is all so profoundly disturbing and deeply upsetting that we have all these so called 'professionals' surrounding a family situation that seemed to be clearly spiralling and that there was no intervention. I know looking back is sometimes not productive, but in this case I truly do wonder if putting FD in jail for any period of time to extricate him from a situation where he couldn't control himself, might have better safeguarded his children and averted any disastrous consequences. The situation in Family Court IMO was simply heartbreaking.


MOO
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I’m glad you got that off your chest! This situation is mind boggling!!!

Without getting too personal several years ago I went through the process in CT to gain custody of a grandchild.

The other “parties” NEVER once told the TRUTH to their friends and family members about what went on in court. As we run into some of these mutual acquaintances I am amazed at the different stories that were told to them. There isn’t a semblance of truth in any version.

I by no means am trying to infer that MT is a saint however I do not believe FD ever went “home” to MT and told her the truth. MOO
 
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afitzy said:
Yes, isn't it stunning to still see these pictures defiantly shared TO THIS DAY on FB!

What kind of message is FD sharing with his children about basic respect, self respect, let alone respect of the LAW? These pictures IMO send the message of defiance and absolute lack of respect to JD, Judge Heller, Family Court and the rule of law in CT. Ditto on this entire paragraph for MT as she was there and not only that brought her daughter into the entire situation of defiance of the court order regarding the Dulos children. What parent would do such a thing? We have our answers, FD and MT!

I do hope to one day see where each and every choice FD has ever made with regard to his life, children and marriage will be laid BARE in court when the inevitable IMO day comes to terminate his parental rights occurs and the 5 children will no longer be faced with having FD in their lives legally. This FB picture to me can simply be another exhibit as to why some people should just not be parents. What kind of sick mind would even think that that picture of the Dulos Family with MT and daughter represented "Winning" on any level? Delusion pure and simple IMO. I truly wonder if the FD Greek Family are aware of the depths of the psychological damage that FD inflicted on his entire family and in particular his oldest sons? Could they know all this and yet still defend FD as publicly as they seem to have done in this case? IDK. I know there are 2 sides to every story but I cannot come up with any second side to justify any of the FD behaviour in Family Court.

Its not only the prioritising of the relationship with MT and her daughter over his own 5 children regarding the Family Court order for over 8 months but it was the ongoing actions of using his 2 oldest children to lie on his behalf to the detriment of their mental health that I believe will eventually be Exhibit A in the case against FD being a parent. But the kicker in this entire situation was how both MT and FD used MT daughter as part of their entire scheme as well and this in my mind was what made it all so sick and diabolical. Any of the comments here IMO could be applied directly to MT without qualification as to parental decision making (or lack thereof IMO).

Why the State of CT did not intervene to protect the Dulos children is a mystery to me and I truly wonder if any case can be made to support malpractice against GAL Meehan as he was supposedly in place TO SAFEGUARD THE INTERESTS OF THE DULOS CHILDREN! GAL Meehan by all accounts seems to have 'melted away' when the older children needed him most and I truly wonder why this might have been the case?

Given the seals in place on the records its impossible to answer any of these questions. We do know both sets of attys have put in motions to terminate GAL Meehan but it appears that Judge Heller has not yet done so. I just have to wonder what is causing the delay in terminating GAL Meehan? We saw his clear role in the 'stolen psych report' and prior to this his choices regarding the safeguarding of the oldest Dulos children. Why did GAL Meehan not petition the court about the situation with the ongoing games being played by MT, FD and her daughter with regard to the court order that 'MT not be present when the Dulos children are present' and how FD and MT twisted this order to mean that because MT daughter was not technically included in the order that it was somehow OK for her to be present with the Dulos children. IDK, but if the GAL were aware of this entire situation going on at 4Jx where MT daughter was with the Dulos children when they visited (while MT was absent) and did nothing you really have to wonder how this was justified based on the fact that the GAL mission is to safeguard the interests of the children? How many other similar type judgment calls were made by GAL Meehan about the children such that the situation evolved to the point where JD atty called for him to be terminated? Where was Judge Heller when all this was going on too?

IMO this is all so profoundly disturbing and deeply upsetting that we have all these so called 'professionals' surrounding a family situation that seemed to be clearly spiralling and that there was no intervention. I know looking back is sometimes not productive, but in this case I truly do wonder if putting FD in jail for any period of time to extricate him from a situation where he couldn't control himself, might have better safeguarded his children and averted any disastrous consequences. The situation in Family Court IMO was simply heartbreaking.


MOO
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FD’s other demented and deranged move was requesting that his 2 oldest boys have their own attorney .

What alternate universe does this man live in ..

Does FD really think a Judge would separate his 5 children and give him full custody of
(JUST) the two eldest boys .

Sickening

Moo
 
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