Still Missing CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #58

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  • #221
[Moment I have been waiting for:]

Swab from the garage door opener.

Three contributors, one male.

FD is eliminated.

[Gloves. IMO]

One son had high probability--

JMO
 
  • #222
Recess for lunch. Back at 2. Court will end at 3pm today.
 
  • #223
The scientific language is such a mouthful because the expert can't ever reference Jennifer, only the profile of the contributor on the electric toothbrush...
For the record Your Honour, I would like to state that reference to the VICTIM IN THIS CASE, JENNIFER Farber Dulos, for purposes of DNA and identification purposes as, "...the sample on the toothbrush" simply excessively panders to a Defence Counsel with no defence for their client and renders the VICTIM IN THIS CASE TO THE STATUS OF AN INANIMATE OBJECT WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY DISRESPECTFUL AS WELL AS WRONG IMO.

Seriously, I have never seen the VICTIM ever referred to via the use of an INANIMATE OBJECT. ANYBODY ELSE EVER SEEN THIS DONE?

The Victim was a human being, DNA AND BLOOD IS HUMAN and THE VICTIM deserves, even in presumed death for purposes of this trial only as VICTIM IS DECEASED, to be accorded the dignity of being referred to as such by this Court imo.

This imo is an absolutely SHAMEFUL and DEHUMANIZING decision by the Judge. The VICTIM in this case imo was dehumanised by her husband and years of DV and now in death is being dehumanised by the State of CT. Simply no words.
 
  • #224
I'm behind on the thread, but two questions:
  • Did I mishear or was there a bloody fingerprint on the faucet that was 100 billion times more likely than not to be a mixture of JFD's and FT's DNA?
  • Did we ever get a sample of KM's DNA?
Yes and Yes I believe
 
  • #225
If the defense is going to attempt to include PG as "reasonable doubt" this DNA testimony pretty much shuts that down
This. I assumed they were either going with a "Gone Girl" defense or a PG could've done it defense, and I think this shuts down both.
 
  • #226
[Moment I have been waiting for:]

Swab from the garage door opener.

Three contributors, one male.

FD is eliminated.

[Gloves. IMO]

One son had high probability--

JMO
I don't think we would find FD's DNA there... I believe he snuck in behind JFD as she pulled the Suburban into the garage this morning (or as she left the first time). MOO.
 
  • #227
For the record Your Honour, I would like to state that reference to the VICTIM IN THIS CASE, JENNIFER Farber Dulos, for purposes of DNA and identification purposes as, "...the sample on the toothbrush" simply excessively panders to a Defence Counsel with no defence for their client and renders the VICTIM IN THIS CASE TO THE STATUS OF AN INANIMATE OBJECT IMO.

Seriously, I have never seen the VICTIM ever referred to via the use of an INANIMATE OBJECT.

The Victim was a human being and deserves in presumed death to be accorded the dignity of being referred to as such by this Court imo.

This imo is an absolutely SHAMEFUL and DEHUMANIZING decision by the Judge.
Agreed. Again my own personal outrage. So dehumanizing.

But I am reminded once again that this trial isn't for justice for Jennifer, it's too late for that. This is about justice really for MT and I hope she gets hers. Complete loss of the freedom she's been flaunting.

While painful to hear Jennifer diminished in court to a toothbrush, MT will be exposed as a small dark soul for all time.... and Jennifer's unquenchable spirit will triumph, in the lives of her children.

Even when it looks like evil is winning, it never does ultimately.

JMO
 
  • #228
Personal opinion -- all these bloodlike and biological stains are matched to odds in the billions to JFd (or her toothbrush, at any rate) and, where it appears there might be a second contributor, FD and MT (and the strong of others) are eliminated.

I think the State is just getting out ahead of this so there's no thunder for the Defense.

No one expects MT's blood to be there. Not FD's. No reason to believe he was bleeding, every reason to believe he was wearing gloves, thereby reducing DNA transfer.

Because we all know how much JS would like to sing and dance that FD's DNA wasn't all over that garage floor. IMO he took measures to ensure it wouldn't be!

It's good to remind myself we have 4+ more weeks IIRC.

Lots of testimony and dot connecting ahead!

JMO
My recollection is that on the bike FD was wearing leather gloves or some kind of cycling glove. If they were new could they perhaps prevent DNA transfer at the scene? Or, do folks think he might have placed some other kind or even surgical gloves over those gloves he wore on the bike ride?
 
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  • #229
Yes and Yes I believe
Interesting that he's not being mentioned at all at this point... Obviously, he wasn't charged with anything or really on the radar until much later, and it appears they're really presenting all of this in a narrative form from beginning to end, but I also didn't think PG was tested until much later (although perhaps they tested him when he came forward shortly thereafter about the cleaning of his truck and the replacement seat iirc).
 
  • #230
If I have time this weekend, I plan on driving around the Albany Ave area and taking pictures of where evidence was found as well as hopefully stop by the reservoir with the memorial to JFD. I will take pictures if I remember since they Albany Ave trip will likely come up next week (I live all of 5-10 minutes away).
 
  • #231
I don't think we would find FD's DNA there... I believe he snuck in behind JFD as she pulled the Suburban into the garage this morning (or as she left the first time). MOO.
Was it the visor garage door opener or the wall one?

FD did shut the garage door.

JFd was unable to. Probably because her ability to do was spattered along the undercarriage of the vehicle left behind.

Utter monster, out of control.

JMO
 
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My recollection is that on the bike FD was wearing leather gloves or some kind of cycling glove. If they were new could they perhaps prevent DNA transfer at the scene? Or, do folks think he might have places surgical gloves over those gloves he wore on the bike ride?
In the garbage bags recovered by LE from Albany Ave, they recovered two pairs of black gloves (or maybe it was one pair and a single) - garden gloves and Husky work gloves. One had JFD's DNA on the outside and the other had FD's DNA on the inside. Implication: FD wore two pairs of gloves so that his DNA and JFD's DNA would not appear on the same pair.

ETA: Item 14 from the Troconis arrest affidavit, signed 1/6/2020:
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Agreed. Again my own personal outrage. So dehumanizing.

But I am reminded once again that this trial isn't for justice for Jennifer, it's too late for that. This is about justice really for MT and I hope she gets hers. Complete loss of the freedom she's been flaunting.

While painful to hear Jennifer diminished in court to a toothbrush, MT will be exposed as a small dark soul for all time.... and Jennifer's unquenchable spirit will triumph, in the lives of her children.

Even when it looks like evil is winning, it never does ultimately.

JMO
Thank you for this reminder as I was stewing in outrage for a bit with this unnecessary and imo distracting decision by the Court which imo was undertaken solely to DEHUMANIZE JF.

Moving on.....slowly....
 
  • #234
Was it the visor garage door opener or the wall one?

FD did shut the garage door.

JFd was unable to. Probably because her ability to do was spattered along the undercarriage of the vehicle left behind.

Utter monster, out of control.

JMO
Both. I don't think he disposed of the gloves until later, which would explain the blood on the steering wheel. I have to check what was found on Albany Ave again, although not every piece of evidence dump was retrieved.
 
  • #235
In the garbage bags recovered by LE from Albany Ave, they recovered two pairs of black gloves (or maybe it was one pair and a single) - garden gloves and Husky work gloves. One had JFD's DNA on the outside and the other had FD's DNA on the inside. Implication: FD wore two pairs of gloves so that his DNA and JFD's DNA would not appear on the same pair.
Yes, thanks for confirmation as that is precisely what I was thinking based on what is popping now in the trial testimony on the blood analysis.

Sometimes you can be too smart for your own good imo as his glove choice most definitely is being picked up imo in the blood analysis almost as if it were his 'personal signature' which in a big way it very much was!

Hope the jury sees this and State hammers it home but we will have to slog through much more testimony to get there.

Deep breath.
 
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My recollection is that on the bike FD was wearing leather gloves or some kind of cycling glove. If they were new could they perhaps prevent DNA transfer at the scene? Or, do folks think he might have places surgical gloves over those gloves he wore on the bike ride?
Someone added rubber gloves to the scene....

I wonder if FD purchased new cycling gloves as part of his uniform that morning. Possible that the unknown contributors to some of the samples came from a cashier who handled those gloves somewhere along the way...

I think it's safe to say that FD took basic measures to limit transfer.

JMO
 
  • #237
So far consistent with the AW.
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  • #238
This. I assumed they were either going with a "Gone Girl" defense or a PG could've done it defense, and I think this shuts down both.
Yep, 'Gone Girl" has left the building and PG is "off the board". Getting closer to CHECKMATE IMO but can't count the chickens yet imo as long way to go!
 
  • #239
And for a refresher, evidence found in the bags recovered from Albany Ave area.
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MOO, but we've got the paper towels, sponge from the cleaning supplies, and gloves (wondering if those Husky gloves have a similar texture to dishwashing gloves).
 
  • #240
Someone added rubber gloves to the scene....

I wonder if FD purchased new cycling gloves as part of his uniform that morning. Possible that the unknown contributors to some of the samples came from a cashier who handled those gloves somewhere along the way...

I think it's safe to say that FD took basic measures to limit transfer.

JMO
Totally see this based on what we are now hearing. I do wonder at what point he took off the gloves and did he possibly even attempt to wash his hands or wipe his hands with paper towels while the gloves were off at Welles? Curious how the State puts a point on the entire issue in terms of narrative here.

The gloves must have been covered with blood and perhaps he knew he couldn't keep them on without creating more of a mess. Just speculation but its fascinating how he thought of some things but not all things as it related to keeping his DNA out of Welles.
 
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