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There is also a lot of prostitution and problems with drugs in this area. I haven't heard any recent updates on this case, but I sure am curious.
CT - Pastor Charged With Raping Girl, 11, Who Had His Baby
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LOL, that made me laugh.BillyGoatGruff said:
Anyway, to be fair, it was probably "UNTHINKABLE" to the people that were affected, namely the wife, the congregation, and the community.
But the pastor who impregnated this young girl...I hope this action is unthinkable to everyone.
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Shock And Disappointment
Pastor's Arrest On Rape Charges Stuns City's Frog Hollow Neighborhood
June 24, 2006
By JEFFREY B. COHEN and ELIZABETH HAMILTON, Courant Staff Writers
Carmen Pinto remembered the talk in the neighborhood about the pregnant girl.
"They were like, `Oh, my God. How? How can it be? She was always with the pastor.'"
"Exactly," said her friend, Jeanette Figueroa. "She was always with the pastor."
The pastor, Modesto Reyes, 52, was arrested and charged with sexually assaulting the girl several times at the church when she was 11. Before the arrest, Pinto said, the talk around the city's Frog Hollow neighborhood was that the father of the baby "has to be one of them kids from church, then, you know?"
"Unfortunately," Pinto said, "it wasn't like that."
Reyes, the pastor of the Iglesia De Dios, Cristo Te Llama church on Broad Street, is the father of the child, police said, based on DNA testing. He was arraigned Friday at Superior Court in Hartford on four counts each of first-degree sexual assault, second-degree sexual assault and risk of injury to a minor.
Dressed in a white, button-down shirt and brown pants, the neatly groomed Reyes said nothing as Judge Bradford Ward set bail at $750,000 and continued the case to July 11.
Many of Reyes' supporters sat in the front row of the courtroom, weeping as marshals escorted him back to a holding cell, some shouting "I love you" to Reyes as he left. Outside the courthouse, the crowd of supporters declined to talk about Reyes' arrest.
"We are just here because the Lord has sent us here," one woman said. Members of his family were not available for comment.
A few blocks from the courthouse, as word of Reyes' arrest spread, residents of Frog Hollow reacted with shock, disbelief and disappointment. Some dismissed the charges against Reyes, while others said that they had suspicions.
Luis Pabon, who has attended Cristo Te Llama, had mixed feelings.
"No, no, I don't believe it," said Pabon, a father of a 12-year-old girl and the owner of a house two doors down from the church.
"I never, never saw a person like that, I always saw a very serious person," said Pabon. "He'd help people, he'd respect people, ayudaba," he said, using Spanish to stress how much Reyes helped. "Un tremendo persona, un hombre bueno, tu me entiendes?"
A tremendous person. A good man.
But he also said he remembered after evening services ended about 9:30 or so seeing the pastor back at the church at 10:30 or 11 p.m.
"I always saw him with girls 11 or 12 years old," he said. "Ten. Ten thirty. And I used to think, where are these girls' parents?"
Police spokeswoman Nancy Mulroy said Friday that they have a "firm belief" that Reyes could have more young victims, and police are asking any to come forward.
The girl that Reyes is accused of molesting, now 12, had been wearing baggier and baggier clothes over the past few months, arousing the suspicions of Pinto and Figueroa - both mothers themselves.
But they said they were shocked to learn that Reyes might be the father. Pinto and Figueroa are good friends with the girl's family, which they said was suffering. The family knew the pastor, they ate at his house, they knew his kids.
The girl's family, Pinto and Figueroa said, encouraged her to go to church.
"They never thought he would do a thing like this," Pinto said. A parent should not have to worry, Pinto said, when a child is at church.
"We're trying to put our kids in a safe place, where we think they can be safe," Pinto said. "And not even in church we could do that."
The church is a two-story building made of gray concrete blocks, with a vacant lot on one side and a vacant building on the other. Reyes' name is displayed on a large blue sign over the front door. Little was known Friday about Reyes or how he became a Pentecostal minister.
Scott Thumma, a professor of sociology of religion at the Hartford Institute for Religious Research, said that Pentecostal churches generally fall into two categories - those that are affiliated with a major denomination, such as the Assemblies of God and the Church of God in Christ, and those that are not.
Pentecostalism is a term used to describe a growing segment of conservative Christians who experience God primarily through the Holy Spirit. Pentecostal churches stress the active involvement of the Holy Spirit through divine healing, prophecy and speaking in tongues.
"Groups like the Assemblies of God have a fairly strict ordination process [for ministers]," Thumma said. "That's not generally true when you're talking about the non-denominational churches."
These so-called storefront churches, like the one Reyes heads, are often led by people who deem themselves to be ministers, without any kind of selection process, outside approval or formal religious education, Thumma said.
But without knowing whether Iglesia De Dios, Cristo Te Llama is affiliated with a denomination, he said, it is difficult to know whether Reyes is ordained in any formal sense.
On Friday evening, when there would usually be a service at 7 p.m., the door to the church was padlocked, as it had been all day. No one came. Across the street, members of the Iglesia Mahanaim gathered for their own worship.
"He did wrong, and he's got to pay man's law, I mean the law down here," said Amparo Nieves, the church's founder and former pastor. "Because if we don't know how to live by the law down here, how are we going to live by the law up there?"
But she wanted two things to be clear.
"We're not perfect," Nieves said. "No man on this earth is perfect. Only Jesus."
Second, she said, is that even though the door to Reyes' church was closed, there are still people who need it to be open.
"There's good people here," she said. "And I'm worried about them. I'm worried about the people. What is going to happen to them? Where are they going to go? What is the next step for them?"
June 24, 2006
By JEFFREY B. COHEN and ELIZABETH HAMILTON, Courant Staff Writers
Carmen Pinto remembered the talk in the neighborhood about the pregnant girl.
"They were like, `Oh, my God. How? How can it be? She was always with the pastor.'"
"Exactly," said her friend, Jeanette Figueroa. "She was always with the pastor."
The pastor, Modesto Reyes, 52, was arrested and charged with sexually assaulting the girl several times at the church when she was 11. Before the arrest, Pinto said, the talk around the city's Frog Hollow neighborhood was that the father of the baby "has to be one of them kids from church, then, you know?"
"Unfortunately," Pinto said, "it wasn't like that."
Reyes, the pastor of the Iglesia De Dios, Cristo Te Llama church on Broad Street, is the father of the child, police said, based on DNA testing. He was arraigned Friday at Superior Court in Hartford on four counts each of first-degree sexual assault, second-degree sexual assault and risk of injury to a minor.
Dressed in a white, button-down shirt and brown pants, the neatly groomed Reyes said nothing as Judge Bradford Ward set bail at $750,000 and continued the case to July 11.
Many of Reyes' supporters sat in the front row of the courtroom, weeping as marshals escorted him back to a holding cell, some shouting "I love you" to Reyes as he left. Outside the courthouse, the crowd of supporters declined to talk about Reyes' arrest.
"We are just here because the Lord has sent us here," one woman said. Members of his family were not available for comment.
A few blocks from the courthouse, as word of Reyes' arrest spread, residents of Frog Hollow reacted with shock, disbelief and disappointment. Some dismissed the charges against Reyes, while others said that they had suspicions.
Luis Pabon, who has attended Cristo Te Llama, had mixed feelings.
"No, no, I don't believe it," said Pabon, a father of a 12-year-old girl and the owner of a house two doors down from the church.
"I never, never saw a person like that, I always saw a very serious person," said Pabon. "He'd help people, he'd respect people, ayudaba," he said, using Spanish to stress how much Reyes helped. "Un tremendo persona, un hombre bueno, tu me entiendes?"
A tremendous person. A good man.
But he also said he remembered after evening services ended about 9:30 or so seeing the pastor back at the church at 10:30 or 11 p.m.
"I always saw him with girls 11 or 12 years old," he said. "Ten. Ten thirty. And I used to think, where are these girls' parents?"
Police spokeswoman Nancy Mulroy said Friday that they have a "firm belief" that Reyes could have more young victims, and police are asking any to come forward.
The girl that Reyes is accused of molesting, now 12, had been wearing baggier and baggier clothes over the past few months, arousing the suspicions of Pinto and Figueroa - both mothers themselves.
But they said they were shocked to learn that Reyes might be the father. Pinto and Figueroa are good friends with the girl's family, which they said was suffering. The family knew the pastor, they ate at his house, they knew his kids.
The girl's family, Pinto and Figueroa said, encouraged her to go to church.
"They never thought he would do a thing like this," Pinto said. A parent should not have to worry, Pinto said, when a child is at church.
"We're trying to put our kids in a safe place, where we think they can be safe," Pinto said. "And not even in church we could do that."
The church is a two-story building made of gray concrete blocks, with a vacant lot on one side and a vacant building on the other. Reyes' name is displayed on a large blue sign over the front door. Little was known Friday about Reyes or how he became a Pentecostal minister.
Scott Thumma, a professor of sociology of religion at the Hartford Institute for Religious Research, said that Pentecostal churches generally fall into two categories - those that are affiliated with a major denomination, such as the Assemblies of God and the Church of God in Christ, and those that are not.
Pentecostalism is a term used to describe a growing segment of conservative Christians who experience God primarily through the Holy Spirit. Pentecostal churches stress the active involvement of the Holy Spirit through divine healing, prophecy and speaking in tongues.
"Groups like the Assemblies of God have a fairly strict ordination process [for ministers]," Thumma said. "That's not generally true when you're talking about the non-denominational churches."
These so-called storefront churches, like the one Reyes heads, are often led by people who deem themselves to be ministers, without any kind of selection process, outside approval or formal religious education, Thumma said.
But without knowing whether Iglesia De Dios, Cristo Te Llama is affiliated with a denomination, he said, it is difficult to know whether Reyes is ordained in any formal sense.
On Friday evening, when there would usually be a service at 7 p.m., the door to the church was padlocked, as it had been all day. No one came. Across the street, members of the Iglesia Mahanaim gathered for their own worship.
"He did wrong, and he's got to pay man's law, I mean the law down here," said Amparo Nieves, the church's founder and former pastor. "Because if we don't know how to live by the law down here, how are we going to live by the law up there?"
But she wanted two things to be clear.
"We're not perfect," Nieves said. "No man on this earth is perfect. Only Jesus."
Second, she said, is that even though the door to Reyes' church was closed, there are still people who need it to be open.
"There's good people here," she said. "And I'm worried about them. I'm worried about the people. What is going to happen to them? Where are they going to go? What is the next step for them?"
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Some of this pastor's followers don't think he did it! Come on now - DNA evidence proves this sicko's the father!
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We once had a couple who headed our middle school/high school youth group on Wednesday nights. The kids loved this couple and they did a lot of things with the group. There were some troubled kids in the group and the male leader used to take some of the boys out for a coke or coffee after the group.
We later learned that cokes and coffee wasn't what was actually going on at all. This youth group leader could spot the boys that could be easily groomed and eventually they would have sex. I'm not sure how many boys he was involved with but I would say a few.
The couple who were the leaders were high middle class folks...had two daughter's in high school and just seemed to have it made. Come to find out the male had known he was bi for quite a while. At one point he had even had a male mate on the sly during a strike at the refinery where he worked. He was a manager so he worked as did his "friend." After that affair is when he started picking out young teen boys at church. This all came to light when it was discovered that he had full blown aids and his wife was HIV positive! She had not a clue that he was bi-sexual. He had done nothing to protect her as he didn't know he was HIV positive until it turned into full blown aids. To make matters worse his youngest daughter got married right out of high school to her high school sweetheart. Come to find out the daughter's husband was also bi-sexual and him and her dad had had a thing going on. The daughter had always wondered why her husband had a low sex drive and received her answer when all of this came to light! She divorced her husband....her dad didn't live but a very short time by the time he found out he had full blown aids....her mother lived for several years but is also dead now. The mother said that when her husband went into the hospital she couldn't even go visit him. He wanted her to forgive him and she couldn't. Right before his death she did spend some time with him and did forgive him although it was the hardest thing she had ever done.
One of the boys from the youth group is HIV positive and has been for years.
He is the only one that I know of that contracted HIV from the leader...thank God.
When I found out about this man I was truly in shock/denial. No way was he bi-sexual and did all of these things. It took awhile before I could even begin to believe it. Never that perfect couple with the perfect girls, a strong christian, etc, etc. I couldn't even imagine. We just don't know though. Through this one man's sin so many others were affected. He hurt so many people through his selfishness.
We later learned that cokes and coffee wasn't what was actually going on at all. This youth group leader could spot the boys that could be easily groomed and eventually they would have sex. I'm not sure how many boys he was involved with but I would say a few.
The couple who were the leaders were high middle class folks...had two daughter's in high school and just seemed to have it made. Come to find out the male had known he was bi for quite a while. At one point he had even had a male mate on the sly during a strike at the refinery where he worked. He was a manager so he worked as did his "friend." After that affair is when he started picking out young teen boys at church. This all came to light when it was discovered that he had full blown aids and his wife was HIV positive! She had not a clue that he was bi-sexual. He had done nothing to protect her as he didn't know he was HIV positive until it turned into full blown aids. To make matters worse his youngest daughter got married right out of high school to her high school sweetheart. Come to find out the daughter's husband was also bi-sexual and him and her dad had had a thing going on. The daughter had always wondered why her husband had a low sex drive and received her answer when all of this came to light! She divorced her husband....her dad didn't live but a very short time by the time he found out he had full blown aids....her mother lived for several years but is also dead now. The mother said that when her husband went into the hospital she couldn't even go visit him. He wanted her to forgive him and she couldn't. Right before his death she did spend some time with him and did forgive him although it was the hardest thing she had ever done.
One of the boys from the youth group is HIV positive and has been for years.
He is the only one that I know of that contracted HIV from the leader...thank God.
When I found out about this man I was truly in shock/denial. No way was he bi-sexual and did all of these things. It took awhile before I could even begin to believe it. Never that perfect couple with the perfect girls, a strong christian, etc, etc. I couldn't even imagine. We just don't know though. Through this one man's sin so many others were affected. He hurt so many people through his selfishness.
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There's an update on the case. Apparently the girls school was the ones that contacted police because the child had gained weight so quickly. She told police the pastor molested her on 4 occations over the last year. The first was in a van he parked and forced herself on her. 3 other times after that he called the girl to his office and told her he was having a heart attack and needed her to be there for him.
The jerk pleaded not guilty today in court and had many people in his congregation behind him. Tell me how someone could be not guilt when DNA results prove the perv is the father?
The jerk pleaded not guilty today in court and had many people in his congregation behind him. Tell me how someone could be not guilt when DNA results prove the perv is the father?
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