CT CT - Westport, WhtFem 25-30, UP58393, skeletal remains @ home excavation, Jul'75

[astridxx]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

Est Age: 25-30
Est Year of Death: 1962-67
Height: 5'4"
Straight brown hair.

Skeletal remains found during home excavation done.

 

[PayrollNerd]

I wonder what the history is on the use and ownership of that land prior to excavating it. Did someone's wife pass away at home back in the late 50s / early 60s? Any history of a family burial plot there?

 

[HopeRains]

Finding nothing further. Apparently the location was not provided due to privacy and investigative concerns.

 

[Onfortuneswheel]

I was looking at some mob missing person cases recently since they often aren't in any of the databases since the case is tied up with criminal investigations and a separate missing person report that is needed to publish their case somewhere like NamUs doesn't exist.

I wonder if this could be Barbara Delmar. She was a girlfriend of Joe Stassi, a high-up figure in the mafia. She was last seen June 21, 1963 in Danbury, CT. She reportedly got a call from Stassi, packed a bag, said she was going to Manhattan, and would be back in a few days. She's never been seen again.

The FBI thought they would find her at a mafia body dump in 1967, but she wasn't among those found there.

 

[HopeRains]

I wonder if this could be Barbara Delmar.

Distance between missing and discovery location is 20 miles. Same race, hair color (I think). Some minor differences in articles on the Doe and Namus (ht, age) - Ms. Delmar is within reasonable age range, and most likely height as well. Her disappearance date works with the PMI.

If Ms. Delmar was not recovered, she could be entered into Namus.

I wish there was additional info on the Doe, the whole secrecy/privacy thing regarding location and other details did nothing to help resolve the case.

 

[digitective]

Finding nothing further. Apparently the location was not provided due to privacy and investigative concerns.

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Just calling out that the article on the left says she was 5'2", while NamUs says 5'4".

 

[Soulmagent]

Just calling out that the article on the left says she was 5'2", while NamUs says 5'4".

You can dehydrate that many inches. 2 to 4 , depending! IMO

 

[digitective]

I was looking at some mob missing person cases recently since they often aren't in any of the databases since the case is tied up with criminal investigations and a separate missing person report that is needed to publish their case somewhere like NamUs doesn't exist.

I wonder if this could be Barbara Delmar. She was a girlfriend of Joe Stassi, a high-up figure in the mafia. She was last seen June 21, 1963 in Danbury, CT. She reportedly got a call from Stassi, packed a bag, said she was going to Manhattan, and would be back in a few days. She's never been seen again.

The FBI thought they would find her at a mafia body dump in 1967, but she wasn't among those found there.

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Interesting thought, how can we get Barbara added to NamUs? Adding a few additional details about her below.

Maiden Name: Barbara Harvin
Age: 35
Hair: Brown or black?

 

[victoriarobinson642]

I was looking at some mob missing person cases recently since they often aren't in any of the databases since the case is tied up with criminal investigations and a separate missing person report that is needed to publish their case somewhere like NamUs doesn't exist.

I wonder if this could be Barbara Delmar. She was a girlfriend of Joe Stassi, a high-up figure in the mafia. She was last seen June 21, 1963 in Danbury, CT. She reportedly got a call from Stassi, packed a bag, said she was going to Manhattan, and would be back in a few days. She's never been seen again.

The FBI thought they would find her at a mafia body dump in 1967, but she wasn't among those found there.

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Ken and Angelo were found on the property. I'm not finding anything about O'Brien or Delmar being found, though. I'm not finding much of anything on Barbara, period.

Mar 25, 1967, page 1 - The Post-Standard at Newspapers.com - Newspapers.com

View the digital scanned newspaper from The Post-Standard dated Mar 25, 1967, page 1.

www.newspapers.com

 

[Soulmagent]

Federal narcotics beau of 1961 ?
Federal Bureau of Narcotics - Wikipedia

we gotta start at a place.

 

[digitective]

I wish they could get some physical description info from Parabon NanoLabs, and use that and her skull to try to create what she looks like...

 

[digitective]

I feel like this Jane Doe could possible be Joan Risch. Several details align.

Westport is only 14 miles away from Ridgefield, CT, where Joan lived just a few months before moving to Lincoln, MA.

And Westport is only 30 miles away from New Rochelle, NY, where Joan's adoptive parents lived. Joan accused her adoptive father of abusing her as a child and some people think he was involved in her disappearance. If so, Westport could be an area that he was familiar with.

 

[dotr]

July 14, 2025 lengthy.

https://www.ctinsider.com/news/article/westport-ct-1975-cold-case-hockanum-road-20421561.php

'The skeletal remains belonged to a woman, who authorities estimated to have been about 25 to 30 years old and died eight to 13 years prior to being unearthed from an unmarked grave in a quiet, budding residential neighborhood on July 14, 1975.'

'The woman — whose name remains unknown to this day — had straight, brown hair and a measured height of 5 feet, 4 inches, according to the National Missing and Unidentified Persons System. Her case information on NamUs lists her race as white and the condition of her remains as unrecognizable.'

'Locating the woman’s burial site could be the key to identifying her after all these years, according to authorities, who say forensic techniques developed over the last three to four decades could lead to a break in the 50-year-old cold case. '

'Based on her dental charting, he said the unidentified woman’s gold foil restorations likely dated to the 1940s, '50s, or possibly '60s.'

 

[kb821]

July 14, 2025 lengthy.

https://www.ctinsider.com/news/article/westport-ct-1975-cold-case-hockanum-road-20421561.php

'The skeletal remains belonged to a woman, who authorities estimated to have been about 25 to 30 years old and died eight to 13 years prior to being unearthed from an unmarked grave in a quiet, budding residential neighborhood on July 14, 1975.'

'The woman — whose name remains unknown to this day — had straight, brown hair and a measured height of 5 feet, 4 inches, according to the National Missing and Unidentified Persons System. Her case information on NamUs lists her race as white and the condition of her remains as unrecognizable.'

'Locating the woman’s burial site could be the key to identifying her after all these years, according to authorities, who say forensic techniques developed over the last three to four decades could lead to a break in the 50-year-old cold case. '

'Based on her dental charting, he said the unidentified woman’s gold foil restorations likely dated to the 1940s, '50s, or possibly '60s.'

I signed on to share the story and see you already beat me to it. I wrote the article, and it was a lot more frustrating of a process than expected due to the lack of information available on the case.

 

[The4TierBridge]

I signed on to share the story and see you already beat me to it. I wrote the article, and it was a lot more frustrating of a process than expected due to the lack of information available on the case.

Do you know if there are any plans to try and relocate the gravesite using ground penetrating radar? There was a John Doe from 1974 in Indiana whose burial location was recently rediscovered this way after they used a photo of the funeral service to triangulate a rough area he might have been in:

Unidentified Torso 10/23/1974

www.in.gov

 

[dotr]

I signed on to share the story and see you already beat me to it. I wrote the article, and it was a lot more frustrating of a process than expected due to the lack of information available on the case.

Welcome to Ws @kb821, hoping you are pleased nonetheless, that your fine article was shared here quickly!

 

[kb821]

Do you know if there are any plans to try and relocate the gravesite using ground penetrating radar? There was a John Doe from 1974 in Indiana whose burial location was recently rediscovered this way after they used a photo of the funeral service to triangulate a rough area he might have been in:

Unidentified Torso 10/23/1974

www.in.gov

I'm not entirely sure but it didn't seem like it from what I gathered, unfortunately.