custody given to nancy's family

[Skittles]

Breaking news. Brad indicted by grand jury. There's a thread started already.

 

[reddress58]

What do ya know, SG. Your words today obviously will have put a few people in their places. I am so thankful for CPD, for the sake of Bella, Katie and the whole Rentz clan.

 

[SleuthyGal]

Wow. I was just making an observation and of course being snarky.

 

[momto3kids]

Hi there RaleighNC,

Well the spin on this is that the intense media glare and initial rush of LE, combined with BC's grief was such that it wouldn't have been healthy for the girls to be in Cary, so BC graciously and generously agreed to extend the temp custody until the initial onslaught passed. This action has nothing, repeat, nothing to do with any potential criminal case and was definitely not done to bypass any legal issue relating to a criminal investigation.

However, since the bright glare seems to have subsided a bit, BC is ready to assume/resume full custody, and now those evil Rentz/Lister families are trying to either replace Nancy altogether by keeping custody of the girls {this makes no sense} or outright steal the girls because {insert strange reasoning that has to do with KL's ability to have kids or not, based on wild speculation of KL's fertility}. Of course this was the nefarious/hidden plan all along {wink/wink}, and it's just so convenient that NC was murdered so this devious plan could finally be put into action.

Obviously the judge is in on this conspiracy and is fully in collusion with the plaintiffs, as is the State of North Carolina, the entire U.S., and perhaps the entire country of Canada. It might include Al Qaeda, but that's not been determined yet since the CIA has been unresponsive in answering requests for information. The ultimate answer to this conspiracy may in fact lie in the world of Faye Resnick.

I am still LMAO :floorlaugh: with your post! The ludicrous thoughts some have :bang:
But, IMO it is coming from BC camp who believes this.

 

[momto3kids]

And WHO made it this way Mr Cooper
Is reality starting to settle in? :boohoo:
Do you realize this :behindbar is your new home?:clap:

EDMONTON - Brad Cooper is more concerned about being away from his daughters than his arrest for the murder of his wife, one of his lawyers says.

"He is very sad," said Seth Blum, who is representing Cooper alongside lawyer Howard Kurtz. "He is certainly concerned for what's happening to him, but his greatest concern is that he is not with his daughters."

http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/story.html?id=d0f33237-c105-4905-a5b5-f026e8887939

 

[CyberPro]

And WHO made it this way Mr Cooper
Is reality starting to settle in? :boohoo:
Do you realize this :behindbar is your new home?:clap:

EDMONTON - Brad Cooper is more concerned about being away from his daughters than his arrest for the murder of his wife, one of his lawyers says.

"He is very sad," said Seth Blum, who is representing Cooper alongside lawyer Howard Kurtz. "He is certainly concerned for what's happening to him, but his greatest concern is that he is not with his daughters."

http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/story.html?id=d0f33237-c105-4905-a5b5-f026e8887939

{bolding is mine}

Ok Kiddies, we are going to have a test now.... please get out your phonetic alphabet chart and look up the following reference:

Bravo Sierra (BS)

CyberPro

 

[momto3kids]

{bolding is mine}

Ok Kiddies, we are going to have a test now.... please get out your phonetic alphabet chart and look up the following reference:

Bravo Sierra (BS)

CyberPro

Now I have to clean up the coffee I have spit all over my laptop!

 

[sunflowers]

BC doesn't have to shed tears in order to express emotion. Emotion comes in many more forms than tears. Body language, words spoken, facial expression and responses displays emotion as well.

BC needed to get on the stand. Tell the court what his intent is when he gets his girl's back, what arrangements have been made, including both families in their lives, why he agreed to let them go to Canada in July, how he can't wait for his webcam visits to see them again....all the time he has his head tilted down and obvious to us he is hurting. They show him a picture of Bella & Katie and he smiles to say how much he misses them in his life. No tears, just moving testimony.

We have all done things we absolutely dreaded, but this is one time he had to put those feelings to the side and do what ever it took to get those girl's back.

It might, just might have changed his outcome, IMO.

With most people, it's absolutely the right thing to put the person on the stand. For some reason, his attorneys quite consciously decided not to put him on the stand, and also not to put his famlly on the stand. It's so totally strange that he wasn't put on the stand---tells me that his lawyers, for some reason that was clearly thought out, didn't want him testifying.

i don't think it was brad's decision, but rather the wisdom of his attorneys.

perhaps, just perhaps, the real concern has been masked behind all of the platitudes of his attorneys about wanting his children, and the real concern was not the custody, but rather being implicated in murdering his wife while he was testifying about the kids.

the attorneys directed what happened in that hearing. if i were brad, i would defer to whatever they said within reason because they're the experts and i need their wisdom to navigate this custody/murder defense maze

 

[ncsu95]

With most people, it's absolutely the right thing to put the person on the stand. For some reason, his attorneys quite consciously decided not to put him on the stand, and also not to put his famlly on the stand. It's so totally strange that he wasn't put on the stand---tells me that his lawyers, for some reason that was clearly thought out, didn't want him testifying.

i don't think it was brad's decision, but rather the wisdom of his attorneys.

perhaps, just perhaps, the real concern has been masked behind all of the platitudes of his attorneys about wanting his children, and the real concern was not the custody, but rather being implicated in murdering his wife while he was testifying about the kids.

the attorneys directed what happened in that hearing. if i were brad, i would defer to whatever they said within reason because they're the experts and i need their wisdom to navigate this custody/murder defense maze

I agree completely.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Originally posted by Momto3kids: EDMONTON - Brad Cooper is more concerned about being away from his daughters than his arrest for the murder of his wife, one of his lawyers says.

"He is very sad," said Seth Blum, who is representing Cooper alongside lawyer Howard Kurtz. "He is certainly concerned for what's happening to him, but his greatest concern is that he is not with his daughters."

http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/...5-f026e8887939

And if you believe this from the defense team, I have a lovely bridge for sale...

If you think for one second that he is more concerned with the girls than his arrest...think again! It is and always will be about Brad.

People like Brad don't relate to emotional issues such as the "love for his girls". The loss he is feeling is just that...he lost. It is about possession instead of love, imo.

Btw~ The reason Brad could not be put on the stand is because it could cross over into incriminating testimony as to why the children are there in the first place, imo.

 

[raisincharlie]

And if you believe this from the defense team, I have a lovely bridge for sale...

If you think for one second that he is more concerned with the girls than his arrest...think again! It is and always will be about Brad.

People like Brad don't relate to emotional issues such as the "love for his girls". The loss he is feeling is just that...he lost. It is about possession instead of love, imo.

Btw~ The reason Brad could not be put on the stand is because it could cross over into incriminating testimony as to why the children are there in the first place, imo.

SS - on this issue I totally agree with you. Of note, in April Brad could not wait for Nancy and the girls to leave - he didn't want to see them again, he just wanted them gone. What changed his mind was a separation agreement which involved money. Pretty dramatic turn around by Brad following that - the super dad act begins. The vacation Nancy and the girls took the week before Nancy was murdered was taken at High Rock Lake and Hilton Head, for some reason Brad was unaware of that and thought they were at Lake Norman - kinda close but no cigar. Obviously he didn't care to find out where they were actually going, he had a garage and a car to clean up instead.

To me this whole custody issue was about two things - one, control as you state. The second IMO is spite. He wanted the kids back so he could hand them over to his Mother who has been staying with him for most of time since the murder. In his deposition he states his Mother was to return in October prepared to stay up to one year. No way did he want the Rentz's, Nancy's family, to have those children. The first hearing was a game, the second hearing was a bit more serious but in the first case - Brad agreed to this arrangement outside of a court room. In the second case he was just plain too chicken to get on the stand and fight for his kids. It is obvious from that fact alone, his major concern was for himself and not for his kids. I don't buy his whinning nor his lawyers whinning - as Cyber Pro pointed out - Bravo Sierra = BS.

 

[fran]

FWIW, I don't have a link as to which affidavit it is, but the way Brad talked about Krista (Nancy's twin) and how she was afflicted with the same medical condition as Nancy (chrones disease) and how it would effect her and make it impossible for her to appropriately take care of the children, gives me great pause.

Was this a glimpse into the type of treatment Brad gave his wife when she'd be ill because of a flare-up of symptoms? Was he as hostile, or more so (as everyone knows abusers hide behind closed doors) with Nancy?

Although it is hear-say from NC's friends as to the treatment BC and his mom inflicted on her during a recent visit where NC was ill, these statements about Krista give more credance to the 'friends' and the believeablity of NC's statements about BC being controlling and uncaring, etc as NOT being 'imbellished,'........ but truth!

IMHO, when the judge made her decision, I'm sure she took these various statements by BC and NC's friends and compared them. This shows a jekyl/hyde personality for BC, imho. NOT to mention, as others have stated, 'control issues!'

JMHO
fran

 

[SleuthyGal]

I was remembering the questioning of Krista on the stand and her being asked how she felt about the girls seeing Brad in the future and she said that wouldn't be an issue because he'd be in JAIL (and the emphatic way she said it and the collective gasp/churtling of the gallery). She was right...we just didn't realize how close it was to happening. She must have known it was coming soon.