Dakota Fanning movie blasted for her rape scene

  • #181
I have tried very hard to NOT rush to judgement on this until I have more information from all sides, but, I have been reading at another forum I belong to and one poster there has read the script. She said that there is other objectionable content involving Dakota in the script. I don't know if those things made into the film or not. If the things I'm reading are indeed true, Dakota's parents, agent and manager will be answering to some other things shortly. :mad:
 
  • #182
IdahoMom said:
I have tried very hard to NOT rush to judgement on this until I have more information from all sides, but, I have been reading at another forum I belong to and one poster there has read the script. She said that there is other objectionable content involving Dakota in the script. I don't know if those things made into the film or not. If the things I'm reading are indeed true, Dakota's parents, agent and manager will be answering to some other things shortly. :mad:
The Wilmington DA has looked the film and said no laws were broken in the filming of the movie. I know there is a mutual masturbation scene and some other more mature content.
 
  • #183
southcitymom said:
The Wilmington DA has looked the film and said no laws were broken in the filming of the movie. I know there is a mutual masturbation scene and some other more mature content.
OK...but there is a fine line there between what is legal (and taking it right up to the point where it has to be investigated) and offensive content involving a child. Please keep in mind that I have waited for more facts. The content that I'm referring to may have been cut because of the controversy already surrounding this film. My question is: Dakota Fanning (by DK, I mean Dakota and her parents and handlers, too) gets to pick and choose what projects she/they are involved in. If what I read about the script is true indeed, why didn't they pass on this one?

What's "art" for some is objectionable for others and vice versa, obviously.
 
  • #184
IdahoMom said:
OK...but there is a fine line there between what is legal (and taking it right up to the point where it has to be investigated) and offensive content involving a child. Please keep in mind that I have waited for more facts. The content that I'm referring to may have been cut because of the controversy already surrounding this film. My question is: Dakota Fanning (by DK, I mean Dakota and her parents and handlers, too) gets to pick and choose what projects she/they are involved in. If what I read about the script is true indeed, why didn't they pass on this one?

What's "art" for some is objectionable for others and vice versa, obviously.
Her "people", LOL, specifically her mother, has been quoted many times as saying that she wanted Dakota to get an Oscar, and that she thought this film was the way to get it. Translation: $$$$ Fatter wallets for all! $$$$$
 
  • #185
julianne said:
Her "people", LOL, specifically her mother, has been quoted many times as saying that she wanted Dakota to get an Oscar, and that she thought this film was the way to get it. Translation: $$$$ Fatter wallets for all! $$$$$
I've heard this, but never seen a link saying her mothyer said this even once much less numerous times. There's no evidence that indicates that Dakota's family considers her or uses her as a cash cow. So this particular stone (which would be easy to throw at any parent of a child star) doesn't seem to have much weight behind it.
 
  • #186
IdahoMom said:
OK...but there is a fine line there between what is legal (and taking it right up to the point where it has to be investigated) and offensive content involving a child. Please keep in mind that I have waited for more facts. The content that I'm referring to may have been cut because of the controversy already surrounding this film. My question is: Dakota Fanning (by DK, I mean Dakota and her parents and handlers, too) gets to pick and choose what projects she/they are involved in. If what I read about the script is true indeed, why didn't they pass on this one?

What's "art" for some is objectionable for others and vice versa, obviously.
From a few interviews I've read, DK and her people get to pick and choose the projects she gets involved it. She has said that she wanted to do this movie because she felt like it was a movie about survivors and surviving. She felt like the character was not definied by the things that had happened to her or her negative life circumstances and that her character rose above these things to live and thrive and flourish. So that's my understanding of DK's interpretation of the film. And that's not a bad message for a movie to send - ever - in my opinion.

The film itself has only gotten so-so reviews. One of the reviews I read said it started kind of slow but then rushed to a contrived ending too quickly. Another review sad it really just didn't hold up as an excellent film - too quirky and disjointed - though DK was excellent in it. Unless I read some better reviews, I doubt I'll be interested in seeing it.
 
  • #187
southcitymom said:
I've heard this, but never seen a link saying her mothyer said this even once much less numerous times. There's no evidence that indicates that Dakota's family considers her or uses her as a cash cow. So this particular stone (which would be easy to throw at any parent of a child star) doesn't seem to have much weight behind it.
I do know that Cindy Osbrink, her agent, has reportedly said she sees this as a good vehicle for Dakota to win an Oscar. I found this article- it has some other info I've heard, regarding the backers of the film, etc, plus it mentions that Dakota's mom thinks this could win her an Oscar (although she isn't directly quoted here):

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/gossip/story/436553p-367837c.html
 
  • #188
IdahoMom said:
I do know that Cindy Osbrink, her agent, has reportedly said she sees this as a good vehicle for Dakota to win an Oscar. I found this article- it has some other info I've heard, regarding the backers of the film, etc, plus it mentions that Dakota's mom thinks this could win her an Oscar (although she isn't directly quoted here):

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/gossip/story/436553p-367837c.html


I think it's up to DK and her family what she does but I wonder about the rush to get an Oscar. What's left after that? Wow.

Eve
 
  • #189
eve said:
I think it's up to DK and her family what she does but I wonder about the rush to get an Oscar. What's left after that? Wow.

Eve
Good question. It seems like alot of actors try to get away from the "Disney-type" roles, like they think they'll be taken more seriously if they do.

I remember when Lindsay Lohan was promoting her Herbie movie, she was kind of cynical about the Disney stuff. It's kind of sad in a way. IMO.
 
  • #190
IdahoMom said:
Good question. It seems like alot of actors try to get away from the "Disney-type" roles, like they think they'll be taken more seriously if they do.

I remember when Lindsay Lohan was promoting her Herbie movie, she was kind of cynical about the Disney stuff. It's kind of sad in a way. IMO.


Yeah and look at her now. :rolleyes:

Eve
 
  • #191
IdahoMom said:
I do know that Cindy Osbrink, her agent, has reportedly said she sees this as a good vehicle for Dakota to win an Oscar. I found this article- it has some other info I've heard, regarding the backers of the film, etc, plus it mentions that Dakota's mom thinks this could win her an Oscar (although she isn't directly quoted here):

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/gossip/story/436553p-367837c.html
Thanks - yes, I'm not suprised that her agent and Mom think it might be an Oscar-worthy role but that doesn't convince me that they only decided she should take it based on that fact and the fact that that would make her more money.

Maybe I'm just not jaded enough, but I believe that DK's mom and DK's agent actually care for her on multiple levels! :)
 
  • #192
From everything I've read, they seem to be a pretty grounded family. Dakota learned to read at the age of 2 and used to perform skits for her family, including one where she pretended to give birth to her baby sister. Her parents' family and friends convinced them to take her to an agent. I also read that on movie sets, she not only memorizes all of her lines, but other actors' lines as well and will help them when she can't remember. Hmmm, what else - oh yes, she still shares a bedroom with her younger sister (also an actress) and when War of the Worlds premiered, Tom Cruise gave her a cell phone, which was against her parents' wishes.
 
  • #193
Masterj said:
From everything I've read, they seem to be a pretty grounded family. Dakota learned to read at the age of 2 and used to perform skits for her family, including one where she pretended to give birth to her baby sister. Her parents' family and friends convinced them to take her to an agent. I also read that on movie sets, she not only memorizes all of her lines, but other actors' lines as well and will help them when she can't remember. Hmmm, what else - oh yes, she still shares a bedroom with her younger sister (also an actress) and when War of the Worlds premiered, Tom Cruise gave her a cell phone, which was against her parents' wishes.


Gee, Tom gave her a cell phone? I didn't even think KATE was allowed to have a cell phone! Maybe it had L. Ron Hubbard's spirit on speed dial.

Eve
 
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Thanks for your link, SCM. Regarding her rape scene, from the above link:

"Once it happens, it’s never discussed. The culprit is never accused or apprehended. The child never tells her story to anyone. There’s no great moment of revelation that could possibly help someone who’s watching the film. It’s simply there for shock value.

The fact that Kampmeier and the producers have somehow conned rape-assistance groups into using the movie as a public-service announcement is bizarre to me."

I find that quite interesting, because the agent and other supporters of the movie have touted this as being something that will show rape victims that they can rise above it, and that it is empowering to them, and shows everyone else what a horrific crime this is. If it is truly never discussed, the perp never apprehended, and the child victim never speaks out.....well, it seems evident that it really IS in there just for shock value. Why even put it in the movie???
 
  • #196
julianne said:
Thanks for your link, SCM. Regarding her rape scene, from the above link:

"Once it happens, it’s never discussed. The culprit is never accused or apprehended. The child never tells her story to anyone. There’s no great moment of revelation that could possibly help someone who’s watching the film. It’s simply there for shock value.

The fact that Kampmeier and the producers have somehow conned rape-assistance groups into using the movie as a public-service announcement is bizarre to me."

I find that quite interesting, because the agent and other supporters of the movie have touted this as being something that will show rape victims that they can rise above it, and that it is empowering to them, and shows everyone else what a horrific crime this is. If it is truly never discussed, the perp never apprehended, and the child victim never speaks out.....well, it seems evident that it really IS in there just for shock value. Why even put it in the movie???
Not to be difficult and we'll probably never see this film to know, but movies can show a person overcoming hardships and terrible life circumstances without having to wrap all the pieces of pain up directly. It sounds like the movie writer/director had a story to tell about being a survivor, but it doesn't sound like she told it very well. Still, I'm hard-pressed to believe such a scene was included just for shock value.
 
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Thanks, d_s----I have to say that it sure doesn't make me sad that there are no buyers for this movie. Course, it's still early in the game and that may change, but I have a feeling that this may be a case of where the pre-publicity just may end up being it's demise.
 
  • #200
yep, its great that no distributors are picking the movie up--let it now sink into oblivion
 

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