Dan Abrams ABC to Interview Lisa's parents 10/17/2011 & Today Show

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I heard her admit she was drinking, but she also stated it didn't have anything to do with Lisa. I never heard her state she was drunk..JMHO

Then you didn't listen very carefully. She admitted she had enough to be DRUNK.
 
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I don't for a minute believe that! If that was my baby I'd question my other 2 kids right away!

I couldn't have restrained myself from asking the boy's questions and I'm sure they are asking mom and dad questions too!! I wonder if the boys are with them or have they been sent off to stay with relatives and out of the limelight!:waitasec:
 
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I get the feeling that being vilified for being drunk is worth it to all of a sudden have an incapacitation alibi. I just don't know what to think about this couple... I say couple, because the dad knew she was drinking and didn't say anything, to the public anyway.

I do get a chuckle for ABC's Dan Abrams moaning about the "exclusive" lol, these folks have signed up for the full glory package with NBC and ABC-- it won't be long until Disney World!! :woot:

Despicable. imo

BBM. I wondered about exactly that earlier in this thread. Nothing she is 'releasing' now makes her look good but she has to be doing it for a reason so is it 1) to put her own spin on it before it comes out in the GJ tomorrow or 2) to start setting up her defense because she expects to be arrested once the GJ is finished? Either way she needs a lawyer (yesterday) because I can't see how she is helping herself at all.

I stayed away from this thread for the past 2 days because I felt bad for falling off the fence and being so judgemental late last week but now DB has only served to convince me that I was right to start questioning her. If I was the father/family of her older child I would be filing NOW to get him out of her care given this drunken, possibly blacked out interview she has given.
 
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At some point on another case we all got a lesson on visual cues and lying. (We also covered this briefly in one of my undergrad classes).

If you are facing a right-handed person and asking them a question, and the person looks up and to the left from your point of view (to their right), it indicates they are visually constructing a scenario (as opposed to remembering the scene). Just throwing that out there for folks to keep in mind when they watch the female interviewee. Wonder if she's right-handed.
 
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I don't think it is looking worse at all. I actually feel like the more that comes out the more it clears her.

If Lisa were taken by a stranger, then why lie about when she put her to bed and checked on her? The truth is what will help Lisa come home safe! Initially LE were looking at the window of 10:30pm-3:30am when Lisa was last checked on but now it could have been anywhere from 6:40pm to 3:30pm. Something's not right with her stories.
 
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Lisa Irwin's mother drank enough wine at home while relaxing with a neighbor that she has no recollection of whether or not she checked on her daughter or turned off the house lights before she went to bed.

Did the alcohol cause her to black out? "It's a possibility," Deborah Bradley tells PEOPLE.


http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20537543,00.html

I think Deborah's concept of drunk is distinctly different from Bill Stanton's concept.

But previously she was saying she checked on her. WTF?
:furious:
 
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Does "I was passed out drunk, so I couldn't have done anything" work as an alibi?
 
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Why hasn't Debra sat and talked with the 2 older children ? she wont let LE interview them but says she hasn't even talked with them to see what they might have heard or saw ??:furious:

Ok that's got to be a lie, or she is the most clueless, negligent mom on the planet! Those poor boys!


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If Lisa were taken by a stranger, then why lie about when she put her to bed and checked on her? The truth is what will help Lisa come home safe! Initially LE were looking at the window of 10:30pm-3:30am when Lisa was last checked on but now it could have been anywhere from 6:40pm to 3:30pm. Something's not right with her stories.

FWIW in this people magazine link it says that the neighbor left at 10:30. even if for whatever reason 10:30 is inaccurate, you still have to account for the time the neighbor was over.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20537543,00.html
 
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Does "I was passed out drunk, so I couldn't have done anything" work as an alibi?

Does "I was drunk and accidently gave her to much cough medicine" diminish her responibility in any way or get her a lesser charge?
 
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Then you didn't listen very carefully. She admitted she had enough to be DRUNK.

I'm sorry but she didn't state she had enough to be drunk in the interview I saw.
Is there another one, I missed?
 
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At some point on another case we all got a lesson on visual cues and lying. (We also covered this briefly in one of my undergrad classes).

If you are facing a right-handed person and asking them a question, and the person looks up and to the left from your point of view (to their right), it indicates they are visually constructing a scenario (as opposed to remembering the scene). Just throwing that out there for folks to keep in mind when they watch the female interviewee. Wonder if she's right-handed.

Here's a helpful link that butwhatif kindly sent me on this subject.

http://www.blifaloo.com/info/lies_eyes.php

wm
 
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Does "I was passed out drunk, so I couldn't have done anything" work as an alibi?

It would if it were true, but is it true? If she were that drunk that she blacked out the night before, she would still be drunk at 4 am when LE were called. Was she given a blood test to determine the amount of alcohol in her system? Was the neighbour asked how much DB drank in her presence?

We just don't know, so still sitting on the fence here. :fence:
 
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Wow, drinking on the porch, if someone was watching that would be a nice heads-up. IF there is a kidnapper. If not, anything could have happened, and there may not be an accomplice. I hate to say this, but my first thought was LE needs to check the street sewers. :(


http://www.fox4kc.com/news/wdaf-lis...rch-for-missing-baby-20111006,0,2371703.story

Police also searched storm drains and lifted manhole covers to search the sewer system, saying that it's just another lead and that all leads are being investigated.
 
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All of this "I don't remember..."

I call it the Ollie North "I do not recall..." defense. Only Ollie was at least taking the proverbial bullet for his President, IMO, and not because he was too hammered, though he may have wanted to be when it all blew up, but I digress.
*cough*

Also, I don't understand the husband's reaction. My husband has never lay a finger on me, but if I was getting hammered and couldn't remember checking on my own kid, or not, he'd be in my face about it. Loud, and would have to restrain himself from smacking me. No public support. He'd most likely move out and take the other children with him.
 
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Hi BDE.. I didn't hear that in the interview I watched. Is there more than one interview... I haven't had time to read the People article either... BTW.. Good to see you again. Are you seeing shades of Ron C and Misty C with these two like I am?

I watched the Today show interview first, so that's the one I'm referring to. Still haven't watched all of the GMA piece.

I've alluded to the HaLeigh Cummings disappearance a few times on this board. The entire disappearance in the wee hours scenario is eerily familiar ;)
 
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DB's demeanor in the NBC/PA interview is Very Composed...Very few "tears" this time. She looks from side to side, up and down and holds one hand on JI's right knee.

Now he adds that she slept with "the fan on high." Another detail to say...she wouldn't hear anything. Then DB says that an intruder may have come through that window "a lot quieter than the police."

When PA asks her if there is any way that something could have happened and DB just doesn't remember, her answer goes only to something done on purpose...she never even entertains the possibility of an "accident." Instead, she suggests that drinking doesn't change a person's basic personality.

I still think something may have occurred before JI went to work and that they did everything else that was done that night and into the evening to cover up the demise of their baby. I want to know, DID, ANYONE (other than JI and DB) SEE LISA ON MONDAY, at all.
 
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