Dan Abrams ABC to Interview Lisa's parents 10/17/2011 & Today Show

[Linda7NJ]

Did she never have a licence or did she lose it for DUI?

A mom that tosses her SICK baby in her crib at 6:30 so she get stupid drunk is a poor excuse for a mother! "Adult time" my butt! Wouldn't surprise me if she dosed the baby up on something and when that didn't work...gave her some wine to shut her up.

The whole thing about not talking to her boys and not allowing LE to talk to them is beyond hinky!!!!!!!!!!!!

The baby's father seems dumb as a stick and his affect is frightening to me. It's alomost like he's a shell of a human being and I do not believe that is shock I am seeing during these interviews. He's either on something or he's as dumb as a box of rocks.

I don't know HOW the interviews were edited....but she sure talked about how everything was effecting HER and very little about her daughter.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Just now watching the interview. DB is full of horsepit, imo. She won't allow LE to re-interview her boys because she refuses to put them through any more upset?! Hey lady! You're baby is missing? Remember HER?!

 

[luckyme]

I watched the Today show interview first, so that's the one I'm referring to. Still haven't watched all of the GMA piece.

I've alluded to the HaLeigh Cummings disappearance a few times on this board. The entire disappearance in the wee hours scenario is eerily familiar

ur not kidding! she admitted to watching all of the missing children stuff and always thought the mother was responsible. WTH? moo

 

[Kamille]

Also interesting that at the end of one of the interviews the reporter states that DB has followed other cases and always suspected the parents but her opinion of that has changed.

So which cases did she follow?

 

[frankie069]

I think the I got drunk a "little", knew exactly what was going on and decided Lisa was getting in the way of mommy's playtime and had to be disposed of is a more accurate scenario.

Now its time for mommy, no, not mommy, too good a word for her, its time for Deb to take responsibility and tell where her daughter is so she can come home to rest. Its also time to take a look and possibly have child protective services come in and take a look at those other children. Uh, shouldnt she be arrested for lying to police about the time frame? I do recall someone else getting in trouble for that and being on probation (well, time served). How about we get this ball rolling, handcuff her, charge her with obstruction right now and see if she breaks or someone else in her family who knows what happened as well can then tell what happened to that baby.

 

[yllek]

I drank enough to get drunk. I may have blacked out. I know I didn't hurt my baby because alcohol wouldn't change a person that much. I know I didn't hurt my baby because there is a God. It's okay that I drank so much as to get drunk, possibly blacked out, and don't know what happened other than my baby is gone; I gots to have my adult time. It's okay that I am changing my story. No responsibility taken whatsoever.

It's not okay for LE to re-interview my children that could hold vital information (surely they weren't passed out drunk that night). Why? Because I care so much about my children. Bull. They can have an advocate present and be taped; that can be a condition of the interview and arranged immediately. Debbi and her PR team have the power and knowledge to mandate such (unlikely Riley Fox's father). The affects of a drunk mom who claims not to know what happened the night their precious sister disappeared (and who may be repressing information) is more damaging than a conditioned and monitored chat with well a trained interviewer, imo.

This is a self-absorbed woman (putting it kindly) who is defending/protecting herself above anything else, including all of her children. Where are those phones? WHERE IS LISA?

If Debbi admits to being so drunk she can't remember what happened that night but claims she just couldn't have done anything wrong, harder to charge her with lying to police and hold her responsible for the costs of investigating and searching for a baby if all arrows point back to her as the culprit (as the poly allegedly indicates - she knows where her daughter can be located). Easier to blame it on somebody else, against all odds and cirumstantial evidence, because it's not 100% impossible to refute it being someone else if she "can't remember" and there is no witness (we've seen it happen with a jury). I think there is an accomplice/witness. I hope that person does the right thing.

I'm glad the neigbors are on record as saying the homeless/handyman Mr. Tanko wasn't seen in the area for days before Lisa went missing. I think there was a strategy in how LE handled the handyman issue. Good job LE; one easy possible scapegoat that likely won't be able to be falsey persecuted by our doting mom and her attorneys.

I'm very upset. I have little doubt about who is responsible for Lisa being missing. All of this chiite that Debbi's flinging in her major MSM appearances can wait until she's arrested - which she clearly anticipates (with good reason, imo). Save it for the defense. WHERE IS LISA?

(Sorry for such a long post - I'm not a cryer, but I've shed a few tears of sadness and anger this morning. These interviews say it all, imo). :tears:

JMO...

 

[Turnadot]

Just now watching the interview. DB is full of horsepit, imo. She won't allow LE to re-interview her boys because she refuses to put them through any more upset?! Hey lady! You're baby is missing? Remember HER?!

I'm sure I'm in the minority, but there's no way in hell LE would interview my 5 year old more than once, even if my other child was missing. I won't have my 5 year old traumatized, dealing with this the rest of his life. I still have to protect him, too.

Especially seeing how LE f'd up the Fox boy.

 

[vasportsmom]

Also interesting that at the end of one of the interviews the reporter states that DB has followed other cases and always suspected the parents but her opinion of that has changed.

So which cases did she follow?

VERY good question because this is starting to mimic parts of some recent high profile cases.

 

[Quiche]

I'm sorry but she didn't state she had enough to be drunk in the interview I saw.
Is there another one, I missed?

There are actually three interviews this morning, Em-- the Today show, Good Morning America, and Fox. I think she admitted to being drunk on the Today interview. hth


btw :seeya:

 

[luckyme]

I'm sure I'm in the minority, but there's no way in hell LE would interview my 5 year old more than once, even if my other child was missing. I won't have my 5 year old traumatized, dealing with this the rest of his life. I still have to protect him, too.

Especially seeing how LE f'd up the Fox boy.

I dont think children are interrogated. They usually have a trained professional come in and work with them. moo

 

[Linda7NJ]

Did the neighbor ever actually SEE little Lisa alive that night? Hear her crying?

 

[not_my_kids]

10/17/2011 Dan Abrams GMA Interview
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/missing-baby-lisas-parents-microscope-14752251
Abrams: …”I started by asking Deborah how she learned she’d apparently failed a lie detector test.”
Deborah: “He said, you failed. And I said, failed what? What question did I fail? And he said, you failed the one where you know where your daughter’s at. And I said, that’s not possible. I don’t know where she’s at. And I just proceeded to come unglued. That’s not possible, freakin out, tellin them no, and he looked in my face and he said, I met bad mothers like you. And proceeded to say, probably, something along the lines of, I need to tell the truth or…It’s hard to hear that, but, if it means I have to go through all this to get her back, I don’t care.
Abrams: “Would you take another lie detector test?”
Deborah: “Yeah. Why not?”
Abrams: “Do you think it’s possible that they’re going to arrest you?”
Deborah: “I don’t know. They’d be wrong.
Abrams: “A lot of people have been asking whether you were drinking, a lot, that night and whether that might explain something here?”
Deborah: “Doesn’t explain anything, because I had nothing to do with anything.
Abrams: “Were you drinking a lot that night?”
Deborah: “I was drinking, but it has nothing to do with my daughter’s disappearance.”
Abrams: “You said that what you have been told has been lies. What do you mean by that?”
Deborah: “During interrogation, they found this. They showed me burnt clothes. They showed me a f, Doppler thing with pings from a, that my cell phones, and I’m, I’m led to believe at this point, that none of that was real. I hope the burnt clothes weren’t real.
Abrams: “So, as time passes, and you feel like you’re cooperating and communicating with them, you’re getting, what, fed up with the fact that they’re continuing to…”
Deborah: “Yeah.”
Abrams: “…focus on you?”
Deborah: “Because I know I have absolutely nothing to do with my daughter’s disappearance. You know, and I still understand it, they’re doing their job, but they’re not, it’s not personal, but it, it doesn’t make me feel any better about it.
Abrams: “In your most private moments, have you for a second, ever thought, maybe there was an accident? Maybe something happened?”
Jeremy: “No.”
Abrams: “Maybe she tried to cover it up afterwards?”
Jeremy :”No. There, I mean, there, the first time I even thought that was when the, the people, or the, uh, police had started asking us about it, and, uh, it’s just, uh, it’s not possible.
Abrams: “How did you realize that Lisa was gone?”
Jeremy: “I, I had come home, and, uh, Deborah had woke, woken up when I got there, and uh, and we talked for a couple minutes, and then, uh, I asked her, you know, what’s going on. And she said what do you mean? And that’s when I told her, you know, the lights, the door, the window, and uh, she kinda jumped up outta bed, like something was wrong, and that was when I, I kinda realized that something might be wrong.
Abrams: “So when you first came home, you didn’t immediately realize that Lisa was gone?”
Jeremy: “No.”
Abrams: “Has this put a strain on your relationship as a couple?”
Jeremy: “It’s actually kinda done the opposite. We, um, we’ve spent a l, you know, every waking moment together since this happened. Um, it’s act, it’s actually made us a lot closer.”
Abrams: “Are you hopeful that Liss’s going to be found?”
Deborah: “Oh, we’re gonna find her. I have no doubt in my mind, we’re gonna find her.”
Abrams: “How are you so certain?”
Deborah: “I just know. Because there’s still a God.”

(It helps me absorb it better to transcribe as I listen. I pick up on the words that people almost said, and things like that. I would also like to point out that despite Jeremy's claim that they are now stronger than ever, in a previous article:
"We need her. We have to have her. She's our link that ties everybody together," Irwin said.
http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/news...l-in-Search-of-Missing-Missouri-Baby_93744685 )

 

[Cappuccino]

I'm sure I'm in the minority, but there's no way in hell LE would interview my 5 year old more than once, even if my other child was missing. I won't have my 5 year old traumatized, dealing with this the rest of his life. I still have to protect him, too.

Especially seeing how LE f'd up the Fox boy.

I fully agree with you. If the child knows anything, they can get that info in one interview. Re-interviewing child witnesses again and again is not good practice, either from a forensic perspective, or a child psychology perspective.

 

[curiousc]

10/17/2011 Dan Abrams GMA Interview
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/missing-baby-lisas-parents-microscope-14752251
Abrams: …”I started by asking Deborah how she learned she’d apparently failed a lie detector test.”
Deborah: “He said, you failed. And I said, failed what? What question did I fail? And he said, you failed the one where you know where your daughter’s at. And I said, that’s not possible. I don’t know where she’s at. And I just proceeded to come unglued. That’s not possible, freakin out, tellin them no, and he looked in my face and he said, I met bad mothers like you. And proceeded to say, probably, something along the lines of, I need to tell the truth or…It’s hard to hear that, but, if it means I have to go through all this to get her back, I don’t care.
Abrams: “Would you take another lie detector test?”
Deborah: “Yeah. Why not?”
Abrams: “Do you think it’s possible that they’re going to arrest you?”
Deborah: “I don’t know. They’d be wrong.
Abrams: “A lot of people have been asking whether you were drinking, a lot, that night and whether that might explain something here?”
Deborah: “Doesn’t explain anything, because I had nothing to do with anything.
Abrams: “Were you drinking a lot that night?”
Deborah: “I was drinking, but it has nothing to do with my daughter’s disappearance.”
Abrams: “You said that what you have been told has been lies. What do you mean by that?”
Deborah: “During interrogation, they found this. They showed me burnt clothes. They showed me a f, Doppler thing with pings from a, that my cell phones, and I’m, I’m led to believe at this point, that none of that was real. I hope the burnt clothes weren’t real.
Abrams: “So, as time passes, and you feel like you’re cooperating and communicating with them, you’re getting, what, fed up with the fact that they’re continuing to…”
Deborah: “Yeah.”
Abrams: “…focus on you?”
Deborah: “Because I know I have absolutely nothing to do with my daughter’s disappearance. You know, and I still understand it, they’re doing their job, but they’re not, it’s not personal, but it, it doesn’t make me feel any better about it.
Abrams: “In your most private moments, have you for a second, ever thought, maybe there was an accident? Maybe something happened?”
Jeremy: “No.”
Abrams: “Maybe she tried to cover it up afterwards?”
Jeremy :”No. There, I mean, there, the first time I even thought that was when the, the people, or the, uh, police had started asking us about it, and, uh, it’s just, uh, it’s not possible.
Abrams: “How did you realize that Lisa was gone?”
Jeremy: “I, I had come home, and, uh, Deborah had woke, woken up when I got there, and uh, and we talked for a couple minutes, and then, uh, I asked her, you know, what’s going on. And she said what do you mean? And that’s when I told her, you know, the lights, the door, the window, and uh, she kinda jumped up outta bed, like something was wrong, and that was when I, I kinda realized that something might be wrong.
Abrams: “So when you first came home, you didn’t immediately realize that Lisa was gone?”
Jeremy: “No.”
Abrams: “Has this put a strain on your relationship as a couple?”
Jeremy: “It’s actually kinda done the opposite. We, um, we’ve spent a l, you know, every waking moment together since this happened. Um, it’s act, it’s actually made us a lot closer.”
Abrams: “Are you hopeful that Liss’s going to be found?”
Deborah: “Oh, we’re gonna find her. I have no doubt in my mind, we’re gonna find her.”
Abrams: “How are you so certain?”
Deborah: “I just know. Because there’s still a God.”

(It helps me absorb it better to transcribe as I listen. I pick up on the words that people almost said, and things like that. I would also like to point out that despite Jeremy's claim that they are now stronger than ever, in a previous article:
"We need her. We have to have her. She's our link that ties everybody together," Irwin said.
http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/news...l-in-Search-of-Missing-Missouri-Baby_93744685 )

Jeremy: “I, I had come home, and, uh, Deborah had woke, woken up when I got there, and uh, and we talked for a couple minutes, and then, uh, I asked her, you know, what’s going on. And she said what do you mean? And that’s when I told her, you know, the lights, the door, the window, and uh, she kinda jumped up outta bed, like something was wrong, and that was when I, I kinda realized that something might be wrong.

So now they talked for a few minutes too? This is very different then the other stories he had put out in the media.

 

[darnudes]

A few things I've been considering with the latest revelations -

1. How pissed off was the dad to come home and find? - door unlocked, window open, lights on, mum passed out drunk, signs of drinking while he's working. Pissed off enough to teach mum a lesson?

2. Mum suffered from black out, female friend didn't, female friend sees lights turned off after she goes home at 1030pm. female friend could be considered as last person to see Lisa (and remember it) was female neighbour pissed off and took Lisa?

3. The women spend the night drinking on the front porch for anyone to see thus allowing someone to be able to sneak into the back of the house.

4. To believe a stranger abduction it can only go one of two ways - a stranger sees the family so targets and stalks them as they want to abduct the baby and are waiting for just the right moment when dad is at work and mother is distracted.

OR

A total stranger just happens to be on that street and randomly picks out that house to enter it for the sole purpose of randomly taking a baby as opposed to either the mother or her two other children.

Sorry eta, that it appears from photos that the porch is on the back of the house, is this right?

 

[Mountain_Kat]

When the interviewer asks her is she was drunk, she arrogantly nods and says, "Yeah." Am I the only one who found her response defiant and arrogant? I could flat out hear the "so what" in her voice.

Also, she plays JI like a fiddle, imo.

 

[jjenny]

I fully agree with you. If the child knows anything, they can get that info in one interview. Re-interviewing child witnesses again and again is not good practice, either from a forensic perspective, or a child psychology perspective.

Oh please.

 

[SilkySifaka]

I fully agree with you. If the child knows anything, they can get that info in one interview. Re-interviewing child witnesses again and again is not good practice, either from a forensic perspective, or a child psychology perspective.

agreed

 

[natsound]

Casey was arrested on the stolen check charges first, she was not charged for Caylee's murder until after her remains were found.

All of what things? There isn't any evidence of a murder that we know of. LE can't bring charges against someone without proof. So far, there is no proof yet that Lisa is dead... accidental or otherwise.

I just checked. KC was arrested for first-degree murder in October 2008, BEFORE Caylee's body was found.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Just now watching the interview. DB is full of horsepit, imo. She won't allow LE to re-interview her boys because she refuses to put them through any more upset?! Hey lady! You're baby is missing? Remember HER?!

The boys probably told the police something about that night that did not add up. I bet this is one of the reasons the GJ is meeting. They are going to subpena the boys.