Dan Rassier: Former POI **Wrongly accused**

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  • #541
Can you elaborate on this or explain a bit more. I'm not quite understanding, but I really want to.

Just pay attention to the timeline, take into consideration what I'm pointing out, and ask LE to finish this case win or lose. We're 26 years deep.
 
  • #542
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So, Sasquatch, you believe it was DR and not DH? Just clarifying. I find your opinions valuable and interesting.

The holy grail of this investigation is currently gagged by a gag order. And it has everything to do with DR. I find it odd that noone but myself cares about it anymore. We're talking loads of information and proof LE has been hard at work this whole time. Three searches and items recieved that even have blood on them and being kept for future testing.
 
  • #543
There is no evidence that DR was in any way involved with Jacob's disappearance, other than as a witness. It's understandable that LE looked closely at him because the crime took place at and on his driveway. The gag order about the search is typical in investigations of this sort; LE never wants to give up information to the public. If blood was found on that property that matched Jacob's DNA, the case would have been over then. They've got the right man under arrest.
 
  • #544
There is no evidence that DR was in any way involved with Jacob's disappearance, other than as a witness. It's understandable that LE looked closely at him because the crime took place at and on his driveway. The gag order about the search is typical in investigations of this sort; LE never wants to give up information to the public. If blood was found on that property that matched Jacob's DNA, the case would have been over then. They've got the right man under arrest.

The DNA is possibly 26 years old, 21 years old when they found it. Not as easy as days, weeks, or months later. What do you have on heinrich again? One foot, one tire out of four, that are not deemed conclusive, and absolutely zero else that connects him. The gun is gone, the disguise is gone, no evidence whatsoever found in his home of Jacob.
 
  • #545
The DNA is possibly 26 years old, 21 years old when they found it. Not as easy as days, weeks, or months later. What do you have on heinrich again? One foot, one tire out of four, that are not deemed conclusive, and absolutely zero else that connects him. The gun is gone, the disguise is gone, no evidence whatsoever found in his home of Jacob.

Yes, no evidence connecting Heinrich to Jacob's abduction.....yet. Maybe never but who knows. But he was at the abduction site even if it's just 1 foot and 1 tire-LE told him that-he denied involvement but he also denied involvement in Jared's abduction + assault as well. So he lies. But the bigger thing IMO is that he fits the scenario with his behavior and his physical description. And it wouldn't surprise me at all if he was responsible for the Paynesville attacks, Jared's abduction + assault, and ultimately Jacob's abduction. His involvement has a very high probability IMO.
 
  • #546
The hat they found in Panesville does not rule him out either.
 
  • #547
Yes, no evidence connecting Heinrich to Jacob's abduction.....yet. Maybe never but who knows. But he was at the abduction site even if it's just 1 foot and 1 tire-LE told him that-he denied involvement but he also denied involvement in Jared's abduction + assault as well. So he lies. But the bigger thing IMO is that he fits the scenario with his behavior and his physical description. And it wouldn't surprise me at all if he was responsible for the Paynesville attacks, Jared's abduction + assault, and ultimately Jacob's abduction. His involvement has a very high probability IMO.

Yeah but before we ever knew Heinrich was found and his tires were taken and compared to the scene, in 2004 Sanner ruled out the use of a vehicle on Cnn. So now we know they also eliminated Heinrich from the scene at that time. Noone before October of last year knew LE had found heinrich early and compared his tires to the scene. It took this long to study the timeline, think about it, and figure this out. Sanner doesn't completely change their theory in 2004 if there is matching tire and footprints to heinrich still.
 
  • #548
CASAREZ: To Natisha Lance, NANCY GRACE producer.

One of the focuses that law enforcement really honed in on close to the beginning were tire tracks that allegedly were from a vehicle that may have abducted Jacob.

LANCE: Right. For 14 years they honed in on these tire tracks that were at the end of this driveway.

"And then in 2003 a man who was having a casual conversation with a U.S. marshal said, "You know what? I was listening to the scanner, to the radio, and I heard about this abduction that took place. I went down to the scene, I saw the bicycles that were in that ditch, and I think those were my tire tracks." And then police went in a different direction, and then they then believed that the abductor probably was on foot rather than in a vehicle."

Is this the work of LE and multiple other professionals knowing they have "matching" tire and footprints to a known criminal. I don't think so.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1102/28/ng.01.html
 
  • #549
What is LE waiting for? Why did they do this to us and run? They know what happened, I'm sure if it.
 
  • #550
Yeah but before we ever knew Heinrich was found and his tires were taken and compared to the scene, in 2004 Sanner ruled out the use of a vehicle on Cnn. So now we know they also eliminated Heinrich from the scene at that time. Noone before October of last year knew LE had found heinrich early and compared his tires to the scene. It took this long to study the timeline, think about it, and figure this out. Sanner doesn't completely change their theory in 2004 if there is matching tire and footprints to heinrich still.
I understand where you're coming from as I have vacillated myself between abduction by car or by foot. I can't explain the turnabout by LE from car to foot....but why is Heinrich the center of attention now? It certainly seems there is something going on with the wheels of justice. Without Heinrich or Kevin, then that leaves DR. At this point in time and given what we do know, I've concluded that DR is not a candidate for the crime. Over the years I've studied his statements, videos, etc and certainly some things seem odd but it doesn't appear there's any plausibility to him being the culprit. So the big question is why would LE go on CNN and abandon the car theory for the foot theory? Maybe there's a simple reason for this....it could be possible that they overlooked something back then and switched to focusing on DR but that ultimately led nowhere but with the DNA evidence of Heinrich in Jared's case confirming Heinrich's guilt then the connection between Jared's + Jacob's case became that much stronger.
 
  • #551
I understand where you're coming from as I have vacillated myself between abduction by car or by foot. I can't explain the turnabout by LE from car to foot....but why is Heinrich the center of attention now? It certainly seems there is something going on with the wheels of justice. Without Heinrich or Kevin, then that leaves DR. At this point in time and given what we do know, I've concluded that DR is not a candidate for the crime. Over the years I've studied his statements, videos, etc and certainly some things seem odd but it doesn't appear there's any plausibility to him being the culprit. So the big question is why would LE go on CNN and abandon the car theory for the foot theory? Maybe there's a simple reason for this....it could be possible that they overlooked something back then and switched to focusing on DR but that ultimately led nowhere but with the DNA evidence of Heinrich in Jared's case confirming Heinrich's guilt then the connection between Jared's + Jacob's case became that much stronger.

Well we are all pretty confused and its getting old.
 
  • #552
What is LE waiting for? Why did they do this to us and run? They know what happened, I'm sure if it.

I live in the Canadian city where 6 year old Tania Murrell was abducted in 1983. An investigative author, similar to Joy, did a piece on her abduction a couple of years ago. The amount of information that LE knew about the case, but was not made privy to the public was staggering.
They never found little Tania's body, but they know exactly who abducted and killed her. There was never enough evidence for an arrest. They almost got him to confess once, but he stopped short.
The creepiest part is that this guy now lives in Ontario and is married with children. Guess what his daughter's name is?

Tania.
 
  • #553
I live in the Canadian city where 6 year old Tania Murrell was abducted in 1983. An investigative author, similar to Joy, did a piece on her abduction a couple of years ago. The amount of information that LE knew about the case, but was not made privy to the public was staggering.
They never found little Tania's body, but they know exactly who abducted and killed her. There was never enough evidence for an arrest. They almost got him to confess once, but he stopped short.
The creepiest part is that this guy now lives in Ontario and is married with children. Guess what his daughter's name is?

Tania.

I have a lifetime friend who is now a police officer and he once had been working for relatively small town in SE Mn. He told me that his boss would have him study cold cases when there was nothing else to do, but not to do anything should an interest peak. With cases this old you are very unlikely to get a conviction. Unless DNA is solid and can save the day. So I'm putting weight on whatever LE is still testing from the farm and keep applying pressure to get it done. They don't even need it, I guarantee they can put out a very circumstancial case without it. And we'll lose, but its something.
 
  • #554
I live in the Canadian city where 6 year old Tania Murrell was abducted in 1983. An investigative author, similar to Joy, did a piece on her abduction a couple of years ago. The amount of information that LE knew about the case, but was not made privy to the public was staggering.
They never found little Tania's body, but they know exactly who abducted and killed her. There was never enough evidence for an arrest. They almost got him to confess once, but he stopped short.
The creepiest part is that this guy now lives in Ontario and is married with children. Guess what his daughter's name is?

Tania.

I agree from reading on WS. The amount of info LE has is always staggering. And what else blows my mind is that peopke do not tell what they know so it comes out to others. They really seem to keep their info private so LE can do their job
 
  • #555
It is so horribly sad. While a conviction would be ideal, just knowing where Jacob's body is at this point, might mean even more. Am I wrong to think this?
 
  • #556
It is so horribly sad. While a conviction would be ideal, just knowing where Jacob's body is at this point, might mean even more. Am I wrong to think this?

The Wetterling's seems so composed and seem as they have come to some kind of terms with their life. It seems like knowing where Jacob is would be of great relief to them.

It seems one of the avenues of invesitgation that DR was pursuing was trying to tie the
Wetterlings to the abduction.
 
  • #557
It is so horribly sad. While a conviction would be ideal, just knowing where Jacob's body is at this point, might mean even more. Am I wrong to think this?

We are down to the final 2 guys, one of them killed Jacob. We have to get used to this, as when I see Jacob and try to know him he would want for none of us to suffer. He still has a big smile on his face, like always. We have to do what it takes to give him a proper burial and bring him home. If we have to let the perp walk so be it.
 
  • #558
You better have some hard, definitive proof of this.

It seems one of the avenues of invesitgation that DR was pursuing was trying to tie the
Wetterlings to the abduction.
 
  • #559
You better have some hard, definitive proof of this.

Yes, I do. Not only does everyone in the community know it, but documentation as well.
 
  • #560
You better have some hard, definitive proof of this.

I doubt that he was actually trying to tie the family to the abduction, but he may have held suspicions. In any case I agree with your premise that it's not fair to suggest that he did. Patty was obviously a willing participant in Stearns efforts to pin it on DR, BUT, she did so because Stearns likely suggested that DR was a likely suspect. This is speculation on my part, but I would expect DR to naturally harbor a certain dislike for Patty as a result. That's only natural.

There's a lot of information I left out of the books because, although it was true, it seemed prejudicial. As an example, Patty was quoted in the media directly, as saying there was no chance a car was involved. While she did say those words, I took it with a grain of salt because LE no doubt steered her down that path.

I'll answer your other questions later when I have an actual PC available. Been on the road a couple of days....
 
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