Darlie Supporters and Darin Routier

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Jules said:
Yep, Tez, I think their cheese slid off their crackers long ago. :D

Both are a taco shy of a combo plate too! :D
 
The wheel's turning, but the hamster's dead?
 
great_tezi said:
Is it me, or does Darin have the DUH look?

Between the two of them, they might have one functioning brain cell, and for the life of me, I don't understand why they are still married....


Personally, I think that its a divided we fall type of situation. I think Darlie has something on Darin that could possibly get him locked up. Likewise, I think he could also come out with info that would all but stop her appeals dead in their tracks and assure her the injection.
 
Another thing Robert, you are assuming that Darlie and Darin don't share culpablility. That's probably your biggest mistake in your reasoning. Quite frankly it's the only way this whole case adds up.

Also, there IS something worse than being on death row as a convicted child murderer....there is being on death row as a CONFESSED child murderer.
 
Jeana (DP) said:
Personally, I think that its a divided we fall type of situation. I think Darlie has something on Darin that could possibly get him locked up. Likewise, I think he could also come out with info that would all but stop her appeals dead in their tracks and assure her the injection.


To me, that's the only thing that makes sense. There would be no way Mr. Tez would stand behind me if I murdered our kids. Or the dog for that matter! Same way for me, he'd be in jail if he hurt a hair on any of the kids' heads.

It's pretty obvious she's not going to get a new trial or even get an appeal to go through, so why is she staying quiet? Personally, I think he needs to be sitting right beside her on DR.
 
RobertStJames said:
Graphic all right. And illustrative of what *fake* wounds look like. Unless you think Macdonald was attacked by "hippies."

Anyway, Darlie wouldn't be the one explaining fingerprints on the knife if she hadn't picked it up. Someone else's would have been there. You know, the guy who's hair was found on the knife, and the guy who didn't have a knife wound.

Bet he got scratched, though. LE is supposed to have photographed him. You ever hear what the photos showed, or see them yourself?



RstJ

Yeah but she lies about where she picked the knife up from. It wasn't thrown on the floor by any intruder leaving through the garage. She laid it on the carpet in the murder room for some reason.

This is one of the reasons the authorities suspected her from the beginning. Her story doesn't jive with the physical evidence. You can't drop or throw a bloody knife on tiled kitchen floor and not have it leave some blood evidence that it was there can you? Wouldn't some of the blood transfer to the floor or splatter onto the wall if near one?

So, if Darin did it, she's covering for him already on the 911 call. Somehow I don't see Darlie sitting on DR for Darin.
 
Jeana (DP) said:
I was talking about the wife's (McDonald's) injuries, not his.

Colette fought hard for her own life and to protect her two daughters. Both arms broken as she held them over her head in an effort to protect herself. Six head injuries, her skull crushed, her face beaten to a pulp. Darlie's little scratches hardly compare. and just like Darlie, the evidence against him is overwhelming. If Darin had taken after Darlie she'd be as dead as those boys.


How's this for irony. MacDonald's parole hearing is scheduled for May 10th--Colette's birthday.
 
cami said:
Colette fought hard for her own life and to protect her two daughters. Both arms broken as she held them over her head in an effort to protect herself. Six head injuries, her skull crushed, her face beaten to a pulp. Darlie's little scratches hardly compare. and just like Darlie, the evidence against him is overwhelming. If Darin had taken after Darlie she'd be as dead as those boys.


How's this for irony. MacDonald's parole hearing is scheduled for May 10th--Colette's birthday.


Thank you!!! What you explained in your post defined true DEFENSIVE wounds - EXACTLY the wounds one would expect if someone WERE fighting for the lives of their two children and themself. Moreover, as in the McDonald case, had someone wanted the mother in this case (Darlie) killed, she'd have been so.
 
Hi guys,

Computer had to be admitted to ICU earlier this week so am only checking in infrequently for the moment. Couple of comments:

RobertStJames said:
That knife has always confused me. In Darlie's original statement, it appears she took it off the "floor" and there's the outlines of a bloody knife on the floor in the Roman room, on the carpet. Makes sense. Later, for some reason, it's interpreted as her picking it up off the utility room floor, where there's no indication a knife was dropped. Ok, so Darlie fights with some guy on the couch, gets hacked and stabbed up, then sliced open. Guy drops knife and splits. Simple enough. Except she kept changing the story, dropping the struggling part, changing the location of the knife, etc.
The only reason the knife is confusing you is because you don't believe Darlie is guilty. She clearly says over and over again that the knife was located in/just past the doorway into the U-room from the kitchen... nowhere NEAR the impression in the living room. There is absolutely no way you can intepret her claims about where she found the knife (in either her vol statement, her testimony or her later 'In Her Own Words') as being from the carpet in the Roman room.

And perhaps this is the evidence which should convince you that Darlie didn't simply invent an elaborate lie to cover for Darin. She said that the intruder threw the knife down. There is absolutely no evidence of a bloody knife being thrown anywhere on that floor. What there is, however, is a blood impression of the knife on the carpet and expert testimony has shown that for the impression to have been formed the way it did (with heavy amounts of blood on the tip of the impression) the person who was holding it had to be actively bleeding (and bleeding fairly profusely). Darin was not. Darlie was. The knife was IN HER HAND in the Roman room at some point after she had been cut somewhere.

Darlie'd have to be insane not to suspect him, but suspicion is not proof.
Not if she did it she wouldn't.

Had those prints been Darin's on the knife, they would have arrested him no matter what his wife had said.
Well there were no prints on the knife. However, if there were prints on the knife they would have had to have been in blood to convict Darin I suspect considering it was his knife from his house.

As it was, they had circumstantial evidence pointing at both of them, with one (Darlie) alibing Darin.
See my point above about the knife impression

I really don't know. It's not logical. If she's guilty, why not just confess and remove any shadow of suspicion over Darin?
Huh? No way! Why on earth would she confess and send herself to the death chamber. She has everything to lose by confessing! Nothing to gain (except to clear her own conscience... but I'm not sure she has one). Why would she want to remove any suspicion over Darin? especially at cost to herself?

If she thinks he did it, why not focus her appeals on that? Instead, she clutters up her appeals with mystery perps who do not exist.
Because she KNOWS he didn't do it. She knows the evidence, including her own story if it can be called evidence, doesn't implicate him and in fact clears him. If she is going to prove she is innocent she has to keep with the story she has maintained all along. It won't work of course- but she's got no hope claiming that she was completely innocent and that Darin did it because the stories and the evidence just don't gel. Of course that hasn't stopped her from occassionally casting a little doubt on Darin and maybe she will bite the bullet as her time draws nearer in a last ditch effort.
 
Jeana (DP) said:
Thank you!!! What you explained in your post defined true DEFENSIVE wounds - EXACTLY the wounds one would expect if someone WERE fighting for the lives of their two children and themself. Moreover, as in the McDonald case, had someone wanted the mother in this case (Darlie) killed, she'd have been so.

Look at Colette's head and face in this photo . Warning very graphic.

That's a woman who fought hard to protect her children. She died trying, at the hands of her husband.

If Darin was in a homicidal rage--enough to brutally kill Devon and Damon, there's no way Darlie would escape a similar fate to Mrs. MacDonald. Who does she think she's kidding, you can still hear the rage in her voice on that 911 call. I need to stop for a while, I am getting really really really angry at Darlie again.
 
Have been reading and catching up, I find it odd that people think she would be believed if she ever decided to say now I remember it was my husband all along, if there was evidence of him doing anything at the time any defence atty worth his salt would have said flip him, tell LE what he did, but once she said difinitively no it was not him, and kept saying it, she lost her chance to ever say it, she has to stick with the intruder theory even though it does not seem to be doing much for her chances of appeal,
 
Hey to all the posters from long ago: Jenna, Mary, dasgal, cami...

Whatever became of the bloody fingerprint on the sofa table? At one time I heard that one expert, relatively new to the case, said it belonged to no one who was known to be in the house that night. If I remember correctly, the state's expert refuted this and said it might belong to Darlie.

Also, what about the allegation that came out about Darin hiring someone to ransack/rob the house so he could file a false insurance claim? I know it's extreme that it would have turned into murder, but when you deal with scum, you just never can tell what will happen!

It's good to see y'all again. :)
 
accordn2me said:
Hey to all the posters from long ago: Jenna, Mary, dasgal, cami...

Whatever became of the bloody fingerprint on the sofa table? At one time I heard that one expert, relatively new to the case, said it belonged to no one who was known to be in the house that night. If I remember correctly, the state's expert refuted this and said it might belong to Darlie.

Also, what about the allegation that came out about Darin hiring someone to ransack/rob the house so he could file a false insurance claim? I know it's extreme that it would have turned into murder, but when you deal with scum, you just never can tell what will happen!

It's good to see y'all again. :)


Hi, I think mine was one of the names you typed "Jenna"???? (close enough) :o Anywa, defense experts claim there are not enough "points" for a "match," but that it was a child's (or small adult's) print.

Darin did admit in his affidavit that he had considered and even spoke to others that he was contemplating doing somethink that this, but never went through with it.

Anyway, good to see you too and hope to see more of your posts.
 
cami said:
Look at Colette's head and face in this photo . Warning very graphic.

That's a woman who fought hard to protect her children. She died trying, at the hands of her husband.

If Darin was in a homicidal rage--enough to brutally kill Devon and Damon, there's no way Darlie would escape a similar fate to Mrs. MacDonald. Who does she think she's kidding, you can still hear the rage in her voice on that 911 call. I need to stop for a while, I am getting really really really angry at Darlie again.
........off topic, ( darlie ) i know, but thank you for the JM pics...

...totally insane that a pic pointer is required to TRY TO point out JM's cry baby injuries..........

...back On topic, i totally agree with the previous poster.........................follow the blood !

..JM...DR......the blood tells the story..............
 
accordn2me said:
Hey to all the posters from long ago: Jenna, Mary, dasgal, cami...

Whatever became of the bloody fingerprint on the sofa table? At one time I heard that one expert, relatively new to the case, said it belonged to no one who was known to be in the house that night. If I remember correctly, the state's expert refuted this and said it might belong to Darlie.

Also, what about the allegation that came out about Darin hiring someone to ransack/rob the house so he could file a false insurance claim? I know it's extreme that it would have turned into murder, but when you deal with scum, you just never can tell what will happen!

It's good to see y'all again. :)

Hey atme, how's it going.
 
dasgal said:
You don't understand. Darlie is on death row WITH supporters. If she were to admit to any part of the murders, she would still be on death row, but WITHOUT supporters. She knows she can't roll too far on Darin without Darin rolling back. She will go to the death chamber saying she didn't do it.
How does Darin rolling back remove her supporters? This is really why I started the thread--do Darlie's supporters also support Darin?

Anybody?


RstJ
 
Dani_T said:
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Because she KNOWS he didn't do it. She knows the evidence, including her own story if it can be called evidence, doesn't implicate him and in fact clears him. If she is going to prove she is innocent she has to keep with the story she has maintained all along. It won't work of course- but she's got no hope claiming that she was completely innocent and that Darin did it because the stories and the evidence just don't gel. Of course that hasn't stopped her from occassionally casting a little doubt on Darin and maybe she will bite the bullet as her time draws nearer in a last ditch effort.[/b]

She doesn't know he didn't do it. She claims amnesia. Yet her first description of her attacker matched Darin. Darin has blood on his pants. Whose? There is blood on his Reeboks, fibers of which are matched to that sock. When did he put them on to get blood on them?

Follow the blood. It leads to Darin, not to Darlie.


RstJ
 
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