Darlie's "Hypnosis"

[beesy]

Look at the photos again. The boys would be on the floor Darlie on the couch. There is a pic at justicefordarlie gallery 4. It is a cut out shows where boys were found. Shows placement of couches etc. Darlie is on far couch I believe. Entrance to family room would funnel the person into the sleeping Damon if he is outside the couch and table perimeter. Devon if he was where his blanket was.

I know the picture well and I don't see how someone entering from the kitchen and going towards Darlie could trip over either boy. It appears Devon died where he fell asleep or within a few inches if he fought or Darin moved him. Damon was sleeping between sofa and the table, nearest to his mother, not where he was found. There wasn't an intruder anyway, so it doesn't matter if he could have stumbled over the boys or not.

 

[beesy]

I never told Darlie my theory that someone fell on Devon and that is what started the whole mess. Kinda scary she says it about Damon.

Not really, considering that's one of Chris Brown's theories.

 

[txsvicki]

I don't see how an intruder intending to rob the home or even just to rape Darlie would have killed the boys. If a robber stumbled over one of the kids, it would have been much quicker to just get out of there instead of taking the time to stab the boys and then cut Darlie's throat. If a rapist, how was he going to rape her with her husband there in the house. Looks like he would have tied them up, brought duct tape, something. Darlie never even says that the "intruder" held the knife to her throat and made any threats.

 

[michelle]

I don't see how an intruder intending to rob the home or even just to rape Darlie would have killed the boys. If a robber stumbled over one of the kids, it would have been much quicker to just get out of there instead of taking the time to stab the boys and then cut Darlie's throat. If a rapist, how was he going to rape her with her husband there in the house. Looks like he would have tied them up, brought duct tape, something. Darlie never even says that the "intruder" held the knife to her throat and made any threats.

I know there are so many questions, its mind boggling.

 

[Pocono Sleuther]

I'm just watching the Leeza show on Darlie (again) and was wondering if anything ever came of the regression therapy. The family had such high hopes of this helping to clear her. I, for one, haven't heard anything more on it which makes me think it didn't pan out the way they hoped. Does anyone know any more on it?

And, did Darin ever take a lie detector test. I know Darlie did and failed (right?). But did Darin ever agree to one and if so what were the findings? This case is truly strange in so many ways. It's always interested me, but I've recently been reading up on it much more.

Thanks guys!

 

[whitywendy]

I'm just watching the Leeza show on Darlie (again) and was wondering if anything ever came of the regression therapy. The family had such high hopes of this helping to clear her. I, for one, haven't heard anything more on it which makes me think it didn't pan out the way they hoped. Does anyone know any more on it?

And, did Darin ever take a lie detector test. I know Darlie did and failed (right?). But did Darin ever agree to one and if so what were the findings? This case is truly strange in so many ways. It's always interested me, but I've recently been reading up on it much more.

Thanks guys!

Have no idea about the regression therapy. I agree that it didn't go as planned so it is like it never happened.

If I recall correctly Brian Pardo ??? became involved and had Darin do the lie test, which turned out to be a mess. Darin failed of course, Darin's mom almost passed out because Darin failed and Darin was fighting with the guy who gave him the test. I can't recall all of the questions he was asked. But the conclusion from the test was that Darin wasn't being truthful with some of his answers. I remember one being "Do you know who killed your boys". I need to "look" and find it. I know the info is here in the archives somewhere.

 

[Anais]

I also don't know much about the regression therapy. However I do know that when Darin was asked if he knew who'd killed his children his answer was considered deceitful.

 

[Pocono Sleuther]

Thanks so much for the info. As for the regression therapy, I'm going to stick with the idea that they brushed it under the rug since it was a negative outcome.
Was Darin's lie detector test videotaped? I'll have to search back in the archives for some more info. But I really appreciate all of the time everyone on this forum has put into research.
As for his answer to who killed his children being deceitful, do you think:
1. he justs feels she's guilty and has his doubts
2. he knows because he was involved or caught her in the act
or
3. she confessed to him?

I'm going to read up on when his test was done as well. I'm wondering how he feels now that all this time has passed and they've had zero luck on appeals for a new trial. Then there's the simple fact that a murder like this one hasn't occurred in Rowlett since the Routier case. My feeling is if there were a killer out there he/they would have struck again.

 

[Anais]

Pocono,

I also agree that the regression therapy was a bunch of hoopla over nothing because nothing would come of it. Darlie's supporters are quite good at that. In the case of Darin's polygraph exam I believe that his negative thoughts of his wife being the murderer are what did him in amongst other things.

It has been said that the attorney that set the polygraph up made it one that he would absolutely fail, and for the reason that it was a path to free and clear Darlie of the crimes. Yes Darin had looked into some insurance scams and the like.

IMO Darin is not the best guy in pack but he didn't have anything to do with the crimes etc. But he believes Darlie did and she's got something on him just not sure what.

 

[whitywendy]

Thanks so much for the info. As for the regression therapy, I'm going to stick with the idea that they brushed it under the rug since it was a negative outcome.
Was Darin's lie detector test videotaped? I'll have to search back in the archives for some more info. But I really appreciate all of the time everyone on this forum has put into research.
As for his answer to who killed his children being deceitful, do you think:
1. he justs feels she's guilty and has his doubts
2. he knows because he was involved or caught her in the act
or
3. she confessed to him?

I'm going to read up on when his test was done as well. I'm wondering how he feels now that all this time has passed and they've had zero luck on appeals for a new trial. Then there's the simple fact that a murder like this one hasn't occurred in Rowlett since the Routier case. My feeling is if there were a killer out there he/they would have struck again.

I think that he knew shortly after coming downstairs. IMO this is why Darlie was so defensive on that 911 call when she spoke to Darin.

"I don't know who did this Darin"
"Someone came in here and INTENTIONALLY did this DARIN!!!!!"

 

[Pocono Sleuther]

The way her voice changes from one of hysterics and crying to one of mean insistence in a split second says alot to me. You can hear in her tone that she's trying to convince Darin.

That is one of the strangest 911 calls I've ever heard. It's not just how her tone flips in that one instance, but it's the over dramatization. I have no idea how I would act in the same situation, but this call is just so overdone, imo. There's entirely too much out of breath screaming and she seems to fill in with 'Oh my gods' when she's not sure what to say in the silence. I'm no actress, but I think I could do a better job. It's way too 'set up'. Too much like you'd expect to see on TV. Which fits Darlie's personality I suppose.

I'm not sure of Darin's part in any of this. She has to have something on him otherwise I can't understand the unwavering support. Plus he made some strange comments about Darlie's breasts when his sons were just murdered and she was being wheeled to the ambulance. He also comments on her breasts etc on nearly every interview. It's a very strange time to be making such remarks. I used to think she deserved a new trial. And the mother in me still can't understand how she could kill her sons in such a monstrous way. But after reasearching and watching the available videos strewn across the web, I'm pretty sure she is guilty. I also feel the diet pills played a part in her snapping that night. Those coupled with severe ppd left untreated can be a nasty mix. Those in her family HAD to have seen a change in her. I can see it in pictures of her before the murder. In previous pics she looks like herself. Showy and over the top. Hair and makeup all done. But the pics taken in the last few weeks show a different Darlie. Her hair has roots and it's unkempt, no makeup or very little, and a blank look in her eyes.

This is one haunting case.

 

[Anais]

I think that he knew shortly after coming downstairs. IMO this is why Darlie was so defensive on that 911 call when she spoke to Darin.

"I don't know who did this Darin"
"Someone came in here and INTENTIONALLY did this DARIN!!!!!"

Wendy that's why I've said before, that for me anyway that 911 call/transcript tells the story pretty darn well. When I've listened to her voice I hear words void of any emotions. As Pocono says above it's hysteria but without realness. Does that make sense??? I cannot get a grasp on my words today-major brain farts! LOL :crazy:

I also believe that diet pills certainly did not help with the mix. Dr. M. Stone once said that Darlie is a narccisist/sociopathic with borderline personality disorder. Of course she's going to change and not for the better. Presentation is everything and the silly string video really backfired on her. Whew that was a mouthful! In any case I also find Darin's comments quite strange.

 

[Pocono Sleuther]

Wendy that's why I've said before, that for me anyway that 911 call/transcript tells the story pretty darn well. When I've listened to her voice I hear words void of any emotions. As Pocono says above it's hysteria but without realness. Does that make sense??? I cannot get a grasp on my words today-major brain farts! LOL :crazy:

Join the club on the brain farts! Someone asked me how old my girls were this morning and I had to really think about it!! YIKES!! :crazy:

And you hit the nail on the head, it's hysteria without realness. There are no sincere emotions. It's similiar to the Ramsey's 911 call to me. Patsy was way over the top as well. The emotions are not of surprise out of finding this crime had been committed, but more out of appropriateness (is that a word? LOL) for the situation. It's too "this is how I SHOULD react". I watch Dateline and 48hrs (any crime show really) all the time. I've heard tons of 'real' (true, not staged) 911 calls . NONE has sounded this way.

 

[whitywendy]

Now I am going to go listen to the 911 tape some more. I have only listened to it a couple of times (read it over and over). For some reason it is hard for me to listen to it.

 

[Anais]

Now I am going to go listen to the 911 tape some more. I have only listened to it a couple of times (read it over and over). For some reason it is hard for me to listen to it.

Hi Gals,

Wendy BTW I LOVE ROSES too, and you will enjoy truly enjoy the Joseph's roses! I adore mine. Once they're in full bloom I'll snap some photos for you. What color??? (sorry OT)

Okay back on topic. That 911 call is very difficult to listen to for anyone. I forced myself to listen again as my big sister said that if you really listen that Darlie's fake hysteria really comes through and is so oblvious. It also really makes her guilt prevalent amongst other clues. I have to admit she was right on!

I've never listened to the Ramsey 911 call!

BTW I'm shooting for a brain-fartless day today! (teeheeeheee) Glad I'm not alone there.

 

[whitywendy]

You are def. not alone on the brain farts.. LOL

That's cool that you have the same kind of roses. I believe my are pinkish red with some yellow. I 'll send you some pic's too!

I am going to listen to the tape again right now! Be back.

 

[Pocono Sleuther]

Oh those roses are gorgeous!!! I don't have luck with roses, but I do alright with everything else so I'm not really complaining...too much. LOL

Let me know what you think of the sound at 5:19:09 right after the "someone came in here and did this intentionally Darin" (paraphrasing here). It sounds like she smacked him. I'm not reading the trial transcripts, but not in order. I'm on Darrin's testimony right now. He is SO full of himself and his 'big' life that it's just sickening.

 

[whitywendy]

Oh those roses are gorgeous!!! I don't have luck with roses, but I do alright with everything else so I'm not really complaining...too much. LOL

Let me know what you think of the sound at 5:19:09 right after the "someone came in here and did this intentionally Darin" (paraphrasing here). It sounds like she smacked him. I'm not reading the trial transcripts, but not in order. I'm on Darrin's testimony right now. He is SO full of himself and his 'big' life that it's just sickening.

Okay, how in the world can you understand anything she is saying. It sounded so muffled to me. Maybe I just need to clear out my ears.. LOL

Really though it was hard for me to understand her. Of course the 911 operator was clear speaking, which helped me figure out where in the transcribed call I was suppose to be, however only a few times was I actually able to understand her. The oh my gods and the long whinny "their dead"'s came through loud and clear but I couldn't really understand her at all. Did you slow it down or something?

 

[GIRattlesnakeJane]

Oh those roses are gorgeous!!! I don't have luck with roses, but I do alright with everything else so I'm not really complaining...too much. LOL

Let me know what you think of the sound at 5:19:09 right after the "someone came in here and did this intentionally Darin" (paraphrasing here). It sounds like she smacked him. I'm not reading the trial transcripts, but not in order. I'm on Darrin's testimony right now. He is SO full of himself and his 'big' life that it's just sickening.

Look at the 911 transcripts too because I think, I'm not sure, that an officer was present when she snapped back at him.
Darin objected to references of him and Dana during the Pardo test, could be because Darlie accused him of it too and their fight that they now admit to, was on his mind. Even if he wasn't having an affair with Dana coming that close to a discussion about what they could have been fighting about that night crossing his mind would also make him fail. They were not revealing that info at the time.
Knowing who did it now that I'm not sure.......
If he is in denial would he fail or would he be able to fool a test, because his denial would not allow him to think Darlie is guilty. That part perplexes me.

 

[whitywendy]

If he is in denial would he fail or would he be able to fool a test, because his denial would not allow him to think Darlie is guilty. That part perplexes me.

Which leads me to believe that he knew she did when he came downstairs. Darlie sounds very defensive toward him, OCIMO