DC DC - Chandra Levy, 24, Washington DC, 1 May 2001 *found deceased in 2002*

  • #321
Thanks for that link, Fran. Nice to know that Condit was surrounded by a gang of weasels and losers.

I bet Condit is just thrilled to see the attention. He deserved much more attention than he ever got in this case.
 
  • #322
Looking back, I think it was probably the guy who was attacking female joggers in the park, although, at the time, I was convinced Condit did it.
I think that is the point this series is going to make, too.

Two things they've glossed over so far, though: They make it sound like Condit was straight with the police from the beginning, and I don't believe he was. Also, they mention Chandra being dropped from her internship, but don't mention speculation that Condit could have been behind that.
 
  • #323
Can anyone tell me who the other interns murdered were? I don't remember reading about that. TIA
 
  • #324
  • #325
Joyce Chiang was one, I think.
 
  • #326
I think the section on Condit made it pretty clear he was evasive with the police, I had a different impression of that.

Also, the first section explained that she was dropped from the internship in April because she had actually graduated in December. The internship position requires being a college student. However, she'd already overstayed her position by several months...so maybe Condit had a hand in informing the Bureau of Prisons she wasn't eligible anymore to be an intern.
 
  • #327
  • #328
I think the section on Condit made it pretty clear he was evasive with the police, I had a different impression of that.

Also, the first section explained that she was dropped from the internship in April because she had actually graduated in December. The internship position requires being a college student. However, she'd already overstayed her position by several months...so maybe Condit had a hand in informing the Bureau of Prisons she wasn't eligible anymore to be an intern.

I wonder if he ever did give LE another statement?:confused:

fran
 
  • #329
I'm sorry! I forgot to post this yesterday when I mentioned the three women who were murdered. This article talks about the similarities between the three murders. It was Joyce and Christine and Chandra.
http://www.unsolved.com/0206-Chiang.html
 
  • #330
Man, Condit sure is a piece of work, isn't he?
 
  • #331
my question, of course, is more technical - is this case worth a 10 part series in one of the nation's great newspapers? It was an interesting case in many ways, and certainly became a brief pop culture phenomenon, but really is it worth sending the Post's talented crew of reporters and editors off on such a massive project, particularly in a city where dozens of murder cases remain unclosed every year? I don't see new leads or new developments here. I don't think the story illustrates any great truths or makes any new and transcendent points about culture, political power or even shoddy police work in D.C., which, as a former longtime resident I can testify is old and unsurprising news.
 
  • #332
my question, of course, is more technical - is this case worth a 10 part series in one of the nation's great newspapers? It was an interesting case in many ways, and certainly became a brief pop culture phenomenon, but really is it worth sending the Post's talented crew of reporters and editors off on such a massive project, particularly in a city where dozens of murder cases remain unclosed every year? I don't see new leads or new developments here. I don't think the story illustrates any great truths or makes any new and transcendent points about culture, political power or even shoddy police work in D.C., which, as a former longtime resident I can testify is old and unsurprising news.

It depends on how you look at the newspaper. If you look at it as a source of legitimate news that should rank items in order of importance and then match that up with the page number it falls on, then maybe this isn't an important story.

If you look at it as a business that is actually trying to earn money to pay its reporters during tough economic times with fierce competition from online news sources, then it becomes a different issue. Because it's interesting.

The AJC recently did a multi-part series on eugenics. Was there anything new or newsworthy to report? Uh, no. But it was a fascinating article, most importantly from the perspective of our initial reaction by today's standards (horror) and then walking back through how society came to view it as acceptable. The writer did a terrific job of making you squirm a little and see how a judge or social worker might have really believed they were doing a good thing. And yet...it's wrong...isn't it???

In the same way, although I haven't read the Chandra Levy article, they might be trying to look back at this case with an eye on how events in the news can make or break a murder case. But for 9/11, this case might have been solved. And some conspiracy theorists might even suggest, had someone more important than that 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 Condit been involved, that it was a coverup to divert our attention from Chandra's death. Ever see Wag the Dog?

IOW, there's a bigger picture than just Chandra Levy. It's the age old question of what is news. Why do some missing people get splashed across the front page and others are never mentioned? Sure race and sex are factors, but plenty of pretty blonde girls never get that kind of coverage either. So what causes us to latch onto certain cases and skim over others?

Which I guess is what you were asking to begin with. Since we're still talking about it, I suppose this qualifies.
 
  • #333
Oh, I don't argue that it ISN'T news; I just wonder at the sense of perspective. I've been around the business a long time and you almost never see a 10 part series on anything at all. That's an astonishing commitment of time, effort and real estate on the page. I don't see any obvious news hook - not even an anniversary of note. And if the Post were sitting on something truly explosive - like a serious suspect, or evidence that Condit was connected - I doubt they'd hold it to the end of a multi-week, multi-part series - the danger such info would leak and they would be scooped on their own story is far too high.

It all just seems very strange to me.
 
  • #334
Oh, I don't argue that it ISN'T news; I just wonder at the sense of perspective. I've been around the business a long time and you almost never see a 10 part series on anything at all. That's an astonishing commitment of time, effort and real estate on the page. I don't see any obvious news hook - not even an anniversary of note. And if the Post were sitting on something truly explosive - like a serious suspect, or evidence that Condit was connected - I doubt they'd hold it to the end of a multi-week, multi-part series - the danger such info would leak and they would be scooped on their own story is far too high.

It all just seems very strange to me.

The exact same thoughts crossed my mind, Seanibus.
 
  • #335
It made sense to me. Summer is a slow news month, the Washington Post is always doing in-depth series like this, and what was there to report on? They did the series on Darfur, they did an depth look at Cheney, they might be working on a oil prices series now or gearing up for election coverage, but you can only have so many Obama/McCain/Oil stories.

There's a lot of human interest in this story. The timing is the thing--you have this congressman with the fishy story, the disappearing intern, and all eyes on him and then BOOM! 9/11.

He scurries off to the back page and the story is forgotten.

And it focuses attention on some old but still current DC issues: the Washington Police protecting the politicians, the inept and incompetent nature of the Washington police.

I can see why they saw it as win-win.
 
  • #336
Maybe they're hoping the group of students studying the case are going to come up with some really new evidence.

They may have done an online search of the number of hits CNN website got on the articles etc they're doing on this student investigation.

Eyes, interest, = advertising = $$

Maybe?

:twocents:

fran
 
  • #337
Next part: Chandra's mother meets with Condit; he says "Can I give you a hug" at the end and she says, "Absolutely not." Condit downplays relationship.

Cell phone records show Chandra and Condit talked on April 29; he told detectives he couldn't recall what they said. On May 1, she disappeared.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/metro/specials/chandra/ch5_1.html
 
  • #338
I'm kind of shocked to see so many people who think Gary Condit had anything to do with Levy's death.

I don't see that a US congressman would kill his mistress in this day and age when affairs/sex tapes/drug use and so forth do nothing to harm anyone's career...that stuff happens in the movies not in real life. This is one instance where I believe the guy was completely innocent and wrongly suspected of any involvement.
 
  • #339
Mark Foley and Eliot Spitzer, for starters, are two politicians who would disagree with you about sex scandals ruining careers. And the infamous "Wide Stance" congressman as well, I can think of almost a dozen off the top off my head in the last two or three years alone.

Interestingly enough, the way Condit handled his disclosures, and his obvious lack of cooperation with the press, were what earned the calls for resignation from his home district and others:

http://archive.seacoastonline.com/2001news/8_14_e1.htm

(lead Modesto newspaper calling for his resignation.)

He obviously thought that full disclosure would hurt his career, or he would have been more forthcoming immediately. And as a long term congressman who knew the conservative nature of his constituents, it seems he had a better grasp of their reaction than a "that only happens in movies." He resisted calls to resign, but he was defeated in the primary election before the general election.
 
  • #340
I suspect that Condit merely made a spectacularly bad miscalculation, one that should be a case study in any PR or crisis management class. Here's my guess - Condit really didn't have anything to do with her disappearance, but he clearly had an affair with her. When speculation began to build about the affair, he simply figured her body would turn up fairly quickly and the story would fade away. He would get away with only a minor blot on his record, the sort of innuendo he could simply charm his way out of back home. But as days and weeks passed with no body, and the media had nothing much else to talk about, his too-cute-by-half refusal to talk in more detail went from being annoying to sinister looking. I can only imagine his horror as he realized he was trapped in a box entirely of his own making - he couldn't come clean without looking like a liar, but there was nothing he could do to make the story go away since the key event driving it - that Chandra was still missing - was entirely out of his control.

I think Condit gave himself a length of rope and hung himself with it.
 

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