DC DC - Relisha Tenau Rudd, 8, SE DC, 26 Feb 2014 - #3

[zwiebel]

They have a distinctive kind of stripy carpet there. I have to find the cctv images to compare now though.

http://www.travelweekly.com/Hotels/Washington-DC/Comfort-Inn-Suites-New-York-Avenue-p4560611

 

[zwiebel]

At this link it states it was a holiday Inn. Carpet doesn't look the same as previous pic, to me.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/03/2...dd-case-posed-as-girl-doctor-authorities-say/

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I wish I could say what I feel about that interview with JVM. :X Best not go there.

 

[zwiebel]

Trouble is, hotels usually have different carpets in the hallways and rooms. But they rarely show images of their hallways - they don't make for attractive photos usually.

Here are two carpets used in public spaces in a Holiday Inn in northeast DC. The ones in the rooms are just plain beige. This hotel does have a pool (grandmom mentioned a pool party?)

http://www.booking.com/hotel/us/hol...992ad5aee272adf84bd70d0_pool-couk_slice-99999

 

[zwiebel]

No luck with carpets, but look at these lights. One from the Holiday Inn, the other from cctv. They look identical to me.

http://www.ebookers.com/hotels/Unit...ess_&_Suites_WASHINGTON_DC_NORTHEAST.h267552/

 

[mysteriew]

Reading Grandma's interview brought me to a question. LE searched the stable and found nothing. What led them back there?

I can see Tatum not wanting to go to prison and offing himself. But I can also see if he was pimping baby girl that others might have reason to kill him. He is the one linked to Relisha. He is the one LE was looking at. And he is the one who might be linked to others. If he was out of the picture that really lessons the chance of anyone else being linked to it.

My theory. Tatum had too much money for a janitor. I think he was trading in . But he spent it too fast and got evicted. He needed more money quick. He had contacts. I think he took Relisha not only to get her for himself but also to make money for him.

The only thing I haven't figured out is why kill his wife? Was she aware or unaware of a sideline? Did she balk at a real live girl and threaten to report him? Who were the others there and what did they know?

 

[lillybell]

Thanks for posting updates etc, much appreciated! X

Had we heard of this supposed pool party before? I can't remember if we have.

Why are Relishas family still defending KLT?
Grandma says she doesn't think he killed his wife, it was one of the others at the hotel,
Then she says KLT didn't kill himself, someone else did and placed his body right where LE were searching????

They are all nutty, in my opinion, in a way, I hope the family keep talking, because they are gonna trip themselves up at this rate.

A man took your granddaughter, was seen taking her to a hotel, pretended to be a Dr, police found his wife murdered, KLT bought shovel, heavy duty bags and a lime. He went into hiding, no sight of Relisha, then the man is found to have commited suicide.
Still no sign of Relisha.

Now we learn of possible child link and they still defend this man??
Where's the angry, hurt and desperate family members, pleading for their little girl?

Yep, keep talking, we're listening! X

 

[Abstar80]

<a href="http://www.tripadvisor.com.au/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g28970-d125476-i44245689-Fairfield_Inn_Suites_Washington_DC_Downtown-Washington_DC_District_of_Columbia.html"><img alt=" " src="http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/02/a3/22/b9/filename-img-0203-jpg.jpg"/></a><br/>This photo of Fairfield Inn & Suites Washington, DC / Downtown is courtesy of TripAdvisor

Found this....Does this look like the carpet....Its of the Fairfield Inn on New york ave DC.....The lights are the same..the door handles appear the same and I'll be damned if the carpet doesn't look the same.....

 

[SilkySifaka]

Thanks for posting updates etc, much appreciated! X

Had we heard of this supposed pool party before? I can't remember if we have.

Why are Relishas family still defending KLT?
Grandma says she doesn't think he killed his wife, it was one of the others at the hotel,
Then she says KLT didn't kill himself, someone else did and placed his body right where LE were searching????

They are all nutty, in my opinion, in a way, I hope the family keep talking, because they are gonna trip themselves up at this rate.

A man took your granddaughter, was seen taking her to a hotel, pretended to be a Dr, police found his wife murdered, KLT bought shovel, heavy duty bags and a lime. He went into hiding, no sight of Relisha, then the man is found to have commited suicide.
Still no sign of Relisha.

Now we learn of possible child link and they still defend this man??
Where's the angry, hurt and desperate family members, pleading for their little girl?

Yep, keep talking, we're listening! X

As far as the relatives (not the mom) I feel they are just in deep deep denial that they were so short of judgement about Tatum. It can't be true to them or they would have to look at their own beliefs and actions. And I am not so sure I would be much different (i dont think i would ever have allowed such a situation to come up but if I did completely trust someone who was a pedo) denial would seem like the only option that allowed me to live with myself.

They also can't believe their daughter, niece etc. would have allowed Relisha to be in a dangerous situation imo. Everything they thought they knew about a family member would be upside down then. Plus its the only way to have some hope she is alive. Even posters here have difficulty believing she is dead, i can see family having double the difficulty.

Not defending them but just pointing out some non nefarious reasons for family's statements.

 

[mysteriew]

Why was he found at the stable? He wasn't there when LE searched the first time so I think we can rule out him hiding out there. Did he go there to be close to where he left Relisha? Then why not do it on top of her grave? It isn't like he would be prosecuted. Or that people might find out he was associated with her. So why would he choose the stable?

And where was Tatum hiding out anyway?

 

[PLT]

Although funny, I am assuming she probably meant didn't know how to spell Kahlil. lol

And as for why she gave his number, I think she was trying to say that she didn't know the doctor's number, Relisha was with Mr. tatum, so call him and he can give you that info.

Maybe?

Thank you!!! it now makes sense!

 

[popsicle]

Thanks Kimi!

I am not sure what is up. In the interview she also states:

they searched that same very exact location when they first started searching for my granddaughter. They found nothing. No signs of him, nor my granddaughter, at that very exact location. On Monday, Monday just past, you get a tip that leads you right back to that location. What you find what you get back to that same very location that you already searched prior to beginning the search for my granddaughter? And you find his body. That should tell you something.

Huh? To be clear, I DO NOT think LE told the family this....if it is true.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

JVM: Shocking new developments in Relisha Rudd’s disappearance, as secrets and lies surface. Why does the missing 8-year old girl’s mom keep changing her story? Relisha’s maternal grandmother is joining me live tonight. Plus, I’ll talk exclusively with the alleged kidnapper’s nephew. Were there warning signs? Good evening, I’m JVM coming to you live….

(VIDEO CLIP)

JVM: Cops say Relisha’s family gave her away on February 26th to Khalil Tatum, a janitor at the Washington DC homeless shelter where the famly was living. He was supposed to take her to his house. But there’s surveillance video, right here, of the two of them walking into a hotel room - an ominous sign. Cops say the last confirmed sighting of little Relisha was March 1st. The next day, March 2nd, Tatum buys heavy duty trash bags, a shovel, and lime, tools often used to dispose of bodies. Fast forward to March 19th-20th, soon after, cops start searching for Relisha on March 20th, they find Tatum’s wife murdered in a hotel. And then just this week, cops find the body of Tatum himself, in a Washington DC park. They think he killed himself.

So now that this accused murderer and kidnapper is dead, have cops lost the only person who knew where the child was hidden? And is she dead or alive? How did Tatum convince everybody at this homeless shelter he was a great guy?

(PARTIAL VIDEO CLIP of SY’s interview with @ShomariStone of NBC Washington)

JVM: But, should we trust what Relisha’s mom says? What do you think happened to little Relisha? Call me at 1-877-JVM-SAYS. We have a fantastic Lion’s Den debate panel tonight.

But first, my special guest, Relisha’a maternal grandmother, Melissa (Turner Young), I am so sorry that you’re going through all this. I know it’s gotta be gut-wrenching - heartwrenching - but, you had told us that you do not blame the now dead janitor Khalil Tatum, for murdering his wife or kidnapping your missing grandchild. WHY NOT? And look at this precious child! (VIDEO of RELISHA DANCING in her room at the shelter is playing on-screen - continuous loop - byline “FROM FACEBOOK/INSTAGRAM)

MTY: (crosstalk) What I said was, I don’t believe that he killed his wife.

JVM: (pause) Uh, why not?

MTY: I, I, what I said to the reporter that interviewed me - I never said I don’t blame him? (***she ends her sentences, at times, as though she is ending a sentence as a question / just as AY did; when I hear this, I will transcribe it with a question mark at the end, because that’s how it sounds to me***) what I said was, I don’t believe that he killed his wife? What I believe, what I feel right now, and what I believe since finding out that he was found murdered, well that he committed suicide - I believe his wife his wife walked in and saw something, or interrupted something, or heard something, or seen something, that she wasn’t supposed to see, or know, and that’s why she lost her life.
(crosstalk - JVM interrupted her - :banghead: )

JVM: well, if he didn’t kill her, who did?

MTY: I don’t know. Maybe it coulda been one of the ones that left - that was seen at the hotel with him.

JVM: (slight pause) Ah…

(crosstalk)

MTY: Really, really, I don’t know who coulda took her. I don’t know...

JVM: Tell us, tell us (cuts MTY off :banghead: ) about that, because authorities are saying, as we see the surveillance video of our precious grandchild - with this man, this janitor, on February 26th, walking to a hotel room, never a good sign for an adult man and an 8 year old girl, to be walking into a hotel room. There it is. Now,

MTY: (crosstalk, speaking over JVM) Well, what we got, what the family got…

JVM: authorities haven’t said that about anything else, about anybody else, but you’re giving us new information. What are you saying?

MTY: What, what the family got, far as that video, about him being, ‘bout him and her being seen in the hotel, in the COMFORT INN over there on, uh, well, that hotel over there on New York Avenue? She was, she went to a pool party. They was supposed to had her his 9 year old granddaughter was supposed to have a pool party at a hotel, at the indoor pool there at the hotel. I found out that...(crosstalk)...we never….the indoor pool

JVM: (talking over her) You mentioned something other people...

MTY: I don’t know if a party took place there or not.

JVM: You said just now about, something just now about other people. What other people?

MTY: The hotel where his wife was found was in Oxon Hill. The hotel where Relisha and Mr. Tatum were seen at is here in the District of Columbia.

JVM: Right

MTY: It was five people, it was three other people seen entering that hotel room with him and his wife. So we don’t know who could have killed his wife.

JVM: Wow (speaking quietly as MTY talks)

MTY: Maybe one of them, maybe Mr. Tatum. We don’t know. Only those who was actually in the room know who killed his wife.

JVM: Now, some might say, why are you so quick to defend somebody who your granddaughter disappeared on him watch? And let me just set it up….

(crosstalk - MTY interruts JVM)

MTY: I’m not defending him at all. My thing is, you got two people that turned up dead, OK? In Mr. Tatum’s case, where they found him at, they searched that same very exact location when they first started searching for my granddaughter. They found nothing. No signs of him, nor my granddaughter, at that very exact location. On Monday, Monday just past, you get a tip that leads you right back to that location. What you find what you get back to that same very location that you already searched prior to beginning the search for my granddaughter? And you find his body. That should tell you something.

JVM: And you’re suggesting that something (crosstalk) that somebody dropped his body there, and planted his body there, you’re almost suggesting a conspiracy!

MTY: If you didn’t find a body when you find when you searched it (major crosstalk!) RIGHT! That’s what I feel. That someone killed him, someone else, and put his body there, and then called Metropolitan and told them to go back, that they will find something.

JVM: It’s almost like you’re suggesting….

MTY: So I’m not defending Mr. Tatum in any type of way, I’m (inaudible because JVM won’t let her talk :banghead: )

JVM: Well, what do you think happened to your granddaughter? (they keep cutting each other off) What do you think happened to your granddaughter?

MTY: I don’t know what happened to her. See, right now, it’s a lot, only, like I said, in his wife’s case, the only ones know that killed her is the ones that was there. The whereabouts of my granddaughter. the only one that knows the whereabouts right now is Mr. Tatum and he’s deceased. Now, if he killed hisself, the question leaves now, who was she present when he murdered hisself? Or did he leave her with someone else. ***Interestingly, the 2nd (underlined)part was said as a statement - not a question****

JVM: Well, you know, what you’re suggesting is also, if you extrapolate, you’re suggesting maybe he didn’t kill himself, that he was killed and planted there. Oh my gosh my…

MTY: Right!

JVM: ...head is exploding with this conspiracy theory…

MTY: That’s that I feel (crosstalk again); That’s not a suggestion, that’s what I feel. That’s MY opinion on how they found the body, and where they found the gun laying at. That’s MY opinion on it. I feel as though...

JVM: OK (interrupts), I want to...

MTY: Mr. Tatum’s body was put there by someone else.

JVM: I wanna stop you for a second, and I appreciate your candor. Hang on. Don’t hang up.

(Goes to Areva Martin for commentary. AM starts off with (paraphrasing) Grandmother is grieving, and then says,“Now’s not the time to trash the grandmother….” when NO ONE’s said a WORD to MTY so FAR! :censored: :censored:

As you can tell, this transcription is EXHAUSTING - as I’ve barely completed segment #1, and AM’s drivel isn’t worth the keystrokes!

Taking a breather, and will keep at it until I pass out! (I'm only at the 18:00 mark!!!
:thud:

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On Monday, Monday just past, you get a tip that leads you right back to that location. What you find what you get back to that same very location that you already searched prior to beginning the search for my granddaughter? And you find his body. That should tell you something.

JVM: And you’re suggesting that something (crosstalk) that somebody dropped his body there, and planted his body there, you’re almost suggesting a conspiracy!

MTY: If you didn’t find a body when you find when you searched it (major crosstalk!) RIGHT! That’s what I feel. That someone killed him, someone else, and put his body there, and then called Metropolitan and told them to go back, that they will find something.



This makes sense to me.I personally don't think Tatum committed suicide.I feel he might have been placed but probably killed at the scene.I feel this is going to go much much deeper than just Tatum.



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It was five people, it was three other people seen entering that hotel room with him and his wife. So we don’t know who could have killed his wife.


Who were these people?

 

[popsicle]

Police Halt Search For Relisha Rudd At Kenilworth Park

&#8220;We came up here based on a theory. And that theory was based on the information we had available, the information we could confirm at the time. And the theory was that potentially we would find Relisha in this area,&#8221; Newsham says.

http://wamu.org/news/14/04/03/police_halt_search_for_relisha_rudd_at_kenilworth_park

 

[PLT]

This case really is a bit of a mystery. I've been reading the posts on here and I'm thinking along the same lines as some of you. So here's my two cents:

1. KLT buddied up to "Mom" with money, drugs and probably giving her rides in his shiny car. We KNOW he buddied up to Relisha, but I'd be willing to bet that Mom was the primary target of KLT's grooming because he needed to get the mother's consent to take Relisha out of the shelter.

2. NO innocent parent lies to LE when their child is missing. She lied because she has something to cover up. She also did not report the child missing on her own BECAUSE SHE KNEW SHE HAD DONE SOMETHING WRONG. Clearly there was no "trip to Disneyland" or "medical seminar" because if that were the case she would have said so. The truth was something that could have gotten her locked up. I think she was prostituting this little girl. I think she really did want the girl back but could not tell on KLT without also telling on herself.

3. This "Dr. Tatum" mess is VERY DISTURBING. I bet you they told the little girl he really was a doctor to make her comfortable with being handled and disrobed by KLT.

But what I can't understand is why he would kill RR if he was also going to kill himself? He killed himself to escape punishment for killing his wife. Even if he did assault RR in some way, he knew he'd never do a day in prison because he was going to kill himself. So what's going on there?

The only thing I can come up with is that he killed RR very soon after that video of the two of them at the hotel. He killed her because she was slowing him down. It was easier to run without an 8 year old girl.

I could have written this as every single point is my belief as well although I did not consider that maybe they were telling Relisha KT was a doctor and that makes sense as well. I believe everything above and that child was involved hence the hotels (for the pictures).

I read in some articles and FB that KT had a long relationship with the family - and was being called Relishas godfather so that may answer the question others had about why grandma had his phone number.

 

[popsicle]

Retweeted by wusa9
Russ Ptacek, WUSA9 &#8207;@RussPtacek 4m
Relisha Rudd: Was missing 8-year-old sold? Our @MolaReports listens to theory. http://www.wusa9.com/story/news/local/dc/2014/04/02/relisha-sold/7237501/ &#8230; @wusa9 pic.twitter.com/mqBZ0CqRuA

AMBER Alert: Group thinks missing DC girl was sold

A national missing persons organization in Washington, D.C. thinks that a missing 8-year-old girl could have been sold into a human trafficking network.

"This case has really rocked me to the core. I personally feel that this little girl was sold. I think her mother sold her to Tatum and I think Tatum has sold her in this world wide industry of trafficking," said the former officer.

 

[Bravo]

Thank You Kimster and tlcya. I submitted my question on the Sars thread. I knew we had Sars people but didn't know all this time we had a thread. Awesome :seeya:

 

[popsicle]

Retweeted by wusa9
Delia Gonçalves &#8207;@9NewsDelia 3m
Prosecutors consider charging mother of #relisharudd. What do u think? 8 y/o Girl missing more than a month. $25K reward offered @wusa9

 

[ohhieliz]

MTY: What, what the family got, far as that video, about him being, ‘bout him and her being seen in the hotel, in the COMFORT INN over there on, uh, well, that hotel over there on New York Avenue? She was, she went to a pool party. They was supposed to had her his 9 year old granddaughter was supposed to have a pool party at a hotel, at the indoor pool there at the hotel. I found out that...(crosstalk)...we never….the indoor pool

RSBM for length

well this is all new..has the Comfort Inn ever been mentioned?? it seems that we've discussed literally every other hotel chain in the tri-county area, but this one is new. No surveillance was released of a granddaughter, and I haven't heard anything about a pool party. Was this a lie Tatum made up for MTY and SY, or was this fabricated by MTY for the interview?? hmmmm.

 

[ohhieliz]

In regards to Relisha's family, I waiver between "were in on whatever it was/were getting paid by KT" and "were grossly negligent, took everyone's word for it, never checked up"

in either situation, her family failed her.

I hope today's the day we find you, sweet girl!!