DC DC - Relisha Tenau Rudd, 8, SE DC, 26 Feb 2014 - #3

[mpnola]

A couple of things:

First of all, the timeline is great and very helpful.

FOR THE TIMELINE- I am pretty sure there was internet activity in the early morning hours of the 21st. Maybe, someone can check that so it can be added.

After looking at the timeline for a second, something hit me... maybe he went to Richmond to pick a couple of people up! We are sure about him and Andrea, mostly sure about Robby and his wife, but the other two... It kind of struck me when I saw that the Richmond trip and the hotel meeting were on the same day. I think it is possible he went to get people. I said long ago and still think they could have been meeting at a hotel to insure that there were no bugs or people listening to their conversations. That or he knew the police were after him, at that point, and would CERTAINLY be looking for him at home. To go home meant sure interrogation and arrest! He did manage to escape ever being questioned in person by much of anyone, so if that was his plan, it worked!

Lastly, I think it is possible that at the point of the hotel, he knew he was done for. He knew he would be taking his own life and did not want to leave Andrea to have to answer questions and deal with the fallout. I'm not sure he was that thoughtful, but I think it is a possibility. I have seen many cases when people kill someone else before themselves, they think it would be better for that person.

And by the way- when I read the post, I had my hand over my mouth for quite a while after. I know its not a shocker, but it is still something I was hoping not to see, anyway. This case is very difficult to emotionally handle.

 

[kimi_SFC]

MTY denies any knowledge of Doctor's note.
"I didn't know anything about a doctor's note that Mr. Tatum was given given giving to the school (stuttering). I knew nothing of a note. I know the school had asked (inaudible) "Can I get a note from her doctor?" When I told the school that her doctor never called me back to see what I needed, *I GAVE THEM MR TATUM'S NUMBER* but it never said Dr. Tatum on it. It said Mr. Tatum, because I didn't know how to spell his name.

JVM: Thank you for clarifying that....
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

^^^This is a direct quote^^^

Did you catch that?
WHISKEY. TANGO. FOXTROT!!!!!!


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[PLT]

Question- if KT killed her - he would need to transport her - wouldn't one of the cars contain evidence of that? the only way that possibly it wouldn't is if he had put her in the trash bag. she also had a duffle bag and I assume enough clothes to last a few days. what did he do with disposing of all those items?

He had the luxury of time on his side so these items could have been thrown out in various places.

 

[Eileen730]

I don't think she is in that park!

 

[popsicle]

Bruce Leshan ‏@BruceLeshan 2h
@DCPoliceDept Asst. Chief says if someone mislead police in search for #RelishaRudd, "we take it very seriously." @wusa9

Bruce Leshan ‏@BruceLeshan 2h
Grand jury considering obstruction of justice charges against #RelishaRudd's mother. @wusa9

 

[kimi_SFC]

MTY: in the beginning, Mr. Tatum didn't kidnap her in the beginning. My daughter actually, when she, ok, I don't know what the evidence you know really is, or, what the agreement was, with my granddaughter being with

JVM: (interrupting) wait a second, did your daughter have a relationship with Khalil?

MTY: She was never in a sexual - NEVER - and you can quote me on this. She never had no type of sexual relationship with Mr. Tatum. Mr. Tatum is not Relisha's father. I personally know Relisha's father myself.

JVM puts her on hold

(Look at what she says: "didn't kidnap her IN THE BEGINNING" !!!!!!)


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[Eileen730]

Bruce Leshan ‏@BruceLeshan 2h
@DCPoliceDept Asst. Chief says if someone mislead police in search for #RelishaRudd, "we take it very seriously." @wusa9

Bruce Leshan ‏@BruceLeshan 2h
Grand jury considering obstruction of justice charges against #RelishaRudd's mother. @wusa9

About time!

 

[2Hope4]

I missed JVM... had to go get groceries.

Do they replay it later tonight? Darn it! I've wanted to watch the grandma..was she on the phone or did it show her?

 

[FindingTheMissing]

A couple of things:

First of all, the timeline is great and very helpful.

FOR THE TIMELINE- I am pretty sure there was internet activity in the early morning hours of the 21st. Maybe, someone can check that so it can be added.

<respectfully snipped by me>
bbm

Thank you for bringing that up! Because that's something I am unclear on. I also thought they were implying he used the internet that day. But it's hard to tell from the way it was worded what they meant. Do they mean that he used his gmail that morning or his bank card associated with his gmail. I am still unsure what they meant. So I just took it to mean his bank card since they stated "again" and we know he used the bank card on the 18th.

Anyone else have an idea what is meant so we can clear that up for the timeline? The quote and source is below.

Search warrants filed in D.C. Superior Court show that Tatum used his bank check card to pay for a parking meter in Washington on March 18, the day before police took up the case, and used the account, associated with his Gmail address, again on March 21 at 3:12 a.m. No other details were provided in the warrant, filed with Google. In the search warrant application, police said they were looking for the date, time and duration of communications and the Internet protocol addresses that are unique to each device.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local...7d38aa-b8d1-11e3-9a05-c739f29ccb08_story.html

 

[kimi_SFC]

There's more, but I have to take my Munchkins to youth group. Sorry for the fragmented posts!

The show isn't over yet ( DVR is running ) & IDK who will be on NG.

I am SO upset & I haven't even relayed everything to y'all yet!

Kudos to JVM for asking the tough questions. I tweeted her earlier asking her to do just that :highfive:


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[Annie1004]

Nancy Grace is carrying the story on her show, per teaser on JVM's program.

Oh, and how about KT's nephew interview?! Piece o' work, IMO.

 

[2Hope4]

NG to cover Relisha right now.

 

[Bravo]

I missed JVM... had to go get groceries.

Do they replay it later tonight? Darn it! I've wanted to watch the grandma..was she on the phone or did it show her?

By phone. Well I guess LE knows if that convo took place from phone records. Since they don't believe it to be true I guess it's not the first time we have seen a Mother lie for her Daughter :banghead: Just bouncing off your post.

 

[2Hope4]

Nancy Grace is carrying the story on her show, per teaser on JVM's program.

Oh, and how about KT's nephew interview?! Piece o' work, IMO.

:tantrum: I missed that interview as well!!

 

[FindingTheMissing]

Thank you kimi_SFC for transcribing for us!! :loveyou:

It's disgusting how this family keeps flip flopping and backpedaling so much every time they open their mouths. For the sake of Relisha pick a story and stick to it! Or better yet... just tell the truth already so that maybe she can be found :tantrum:

 

[kimi_SFC]

I missed JVM... had to go get groceries.

Do they replay it later tonight? Darn it! I've wanted to watch the grandma..was she on the phone or did it show her?

ETA: She was on the phone. I WISH she would've been in person - then she could've been analyzed after the fact (What's the name of the Human Lie Detector?)

According to my channel guide, No.

I will put together a full transcription of MTY's segment, but it will be late (after youth group)

What I saw of Andre Tatum wasn't impressive. I'm not interested in transcribing his nephew lauding his uncle posthumously :moo: - family or not - out of respect for Relisha & Andrea (& the Kelly Family) :moo: However, if he says something pertinent, I'll add it.

John Kelly, FBI Profiler ( ID Dark Minds ) is also on panel.

Busy night & no easy task via iPhone at the moment. Will be much easier @ 70wpm via keyboard

:seeya:

#pinkypromise


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[Just K]

How in the world is LE going to cut through all the different stories.
What did each significant person, in Relisha's life understand to be her location and situation?
When did they get the info and did they question it?
Did anyone ask why Relisha was away with this so-called Doctor?
Finally, when did any information become suspicious to either, maternal great grandma, maternal grandma, maternal aunt, bio father, paternal grandma, and mother's boyfriend...who they referred to as Relisha's step-father, ugh!

What a pile of garbage LE must shovel through to even begin to figure out where and how Relisha ended up where she is, now.

 

[Annie1004]

NG Breaking News beginning of program - FL mom who shot children over 3 years ago... ?! Rerun, maybe?

 

[Bravo]

:tantrum: I missed that interview as well!!

Nephew basically said he was a good guy. Would give you whatever you needed. Not the guy portrayed in the press. (Not verbatim) I cant remember if it was JVM or somebody else responded with sometimes bad people present well. Words to that effect.

 

[FindingTheMissing]

NG Breaking News beginning of program - FL mom who shot children over 3 years ago... ?! Rerun, maybe?

Is that what she was talking about? I had it on for a minute. Had to turn it off as soon as she started with the desk slapping and yelling about insanity blah blah blah. That woman's voice and antics drive ME to insanity just trying to listen to her "show" :floorlaugh: I'll wait for someone to be kind enough to transcribe the important stuff.