DC DC - Relisha Tenau Rudd, 8, SE DC, 26 Feb 2014 - #5

[Guidedbyfaith]

I just went on Shamika's facebook account....out of frustration...
she is stating her jobs were manager at Hugo Boss And earlier Ralph Lauren.... Is it another one of her lies?

It could be or it could be from a hundred years ago. We all know, it hasn't been in the last 18 months atleast...JMO.

 

[Guidedbyfaith]

I know, riiight?! It's "normal" for a bunch of grown-A folks to be up in a tiny hotel room...and the next day, one of them is dead. Something about that is not right...do we know yet who all these people were? For me, this is a huge red flag, of many, in this case...

Ok, I haven't done much sleuthing (you guys pretty much have it covered :loveyou, and I haven't shared any theories (as a newbie, I was so scared to even post...but after 50+ posts, I think I'm getting over that, lol). Here's what I think:

IMO, this was all about KT's personal pleasure. He groomed Relisha and her family, and he was sexually abusing her (and probably other little girls too). MOO from personal experience, he exhibited all the classic signs of a pedophile...and I know them well. My first assault was during a game of "doctor"...I was 4 or 5, he was 30-something and "taking care of the kids" while my mother worked. I think with all the media attention, KT freaked out because his sick, twisted lifestyle was being exposed...and he took the coward's way out...and he had to get rid of all the evidence...I can't go there because I want, and I feel, that Relisha is still out there, alive, in need of help...

However, that group of people at the hotel is bugging me, so I'm willing to consider, this might be something bigger. If so, if there's some child traffic ring, then it's possible that Relisha is still out there, alive.

Do we know yet WHO were those people in the hotel?

In my heart, I feel he was just a disgusting pedophile who got caught, but I can't get over the people in the hotel room. WHAT was that all about?

I don't know what to think at this poin! Please forgive my ramblings and typo/grammatical errors...I'm so upset, and emotional...and sleepy, I can't take time to edit, I'm just going to submit my reply and go to bed.

WHERE IS RELISHA???!!!

Somebody knows something, and they need to start talking!!! If THEY, or those close to them, are reading...STOP WITH THE LIES and tell the truth so we can find Relisha!!!!!!!!!!

Goodnight, all. fftobed:

All we know about the people at the hotel is that it was AT, KT, RSL, a female that possibly lives with RSL(from warrant), and another mystery man. MOO, I think you're so right about that hotel room meeting though.

But, I also think that the garbage bags and shovel...was for evidence that was in that house or storage locker...not for Relisha or AT...wishful thinking. I also think...something definitely went wrong because of that passport being there...possibly leaving country so why leave that??? And, did it even say whose passport it was??? And $87??? Where's all this money at that he had for gifts??? Was there a lot in his bank account??? Idk, but IMO 1 + 1 does not = 3

 

[SusanB]

Just a few random questions I have if anybody can help!

1)When Relisha was last seen March 1 - the dancing video that SY made - after the video, was Relisha given over to Tatum to take with him? Was her official last sighting as being removed from the shelter with Tatum? Is that what SY says?

2)After the last sighting, March 1, when did Tatum next show up for his shift at the shelter? Did he continue to work each day from March 1 through March 19 (the night of the RRI meeting and subsequent murder of his wife).

3)Has anyone who worked with him or associated with him come forward to describe his demeanor from March 1 through March 19? What was he doing during this time? Any unusual behaviors or actions? I cannot seem to find any info on KT's routines during this 2 + week interval from last sighting of Relisha and the day of his apparent suicide.

4)Did KT and AT keep Relisha at their apartment when she was "staying" with them? Did she have her own room? How often were they going to motel rooms with Relisha? Why go to motel rooms (if that is correct) if they had a place?

TIA to all. This case is so difficult because the players involved are lying/covering up/clueless/etc and we cannot get a straight timeline from them.

 

[Guidedbyfaith]

Yes. I doubt it was made for anyone to believe though. Just one of those silly FB type things, she also says she has a nursing degree. And that her armpit pic looked "really (bleeep!) good."

I wonder if she's bipolar or has some mental health issues because her FB post went back & forth/mood swings. I do wonder if she's receiving a disability check too. She may be on Anti-depressants...which can slow you down a lot and make you look high. I know some people on them...just wondering. Was she claiming disability for all the kids too??? And if so, why are they in the shelter for over 18 months again...with all these checks??? this is all just my opinion or thoughts.

 

[tlcya]

Good night baby girl. They're coming for you . Hang on.

this hit me

THIS

Good night baby girl, They're coming for you. Hang on.

 

[Guidedbyfaith]

Just a few random questions I have if anybody can help!

1)When Relisha was last seen March 1 - the dancing video that SY made - after the video, was Relisha given over to Tatum to take with him? Was her official last sighting as being removed from the shelter with Tatum? Is that what SY says?

2)After the last sighting, March 1, when did Tatum next show up for his shift at the shelter? Did he continue to work each day from March 1 through March 19 (the night of the RRI meeting and subsequent murder of his wife).

3)Has anyone who worked with him or associated with him come forward to describe his demeanor from March 1 through March 19? What was he doing during this time? Any unusual behaviors or actions? I cannot seem to find any info on KT's routines during this 2 + week interval from last sighting of Relisha and the day of his apparent suicide.

4)Did KT and AT keep Relisha at their apartment when she was "staying" with them? Did she have her own room? How often were they going to motel rooms with Relisha? Why go to motel rooms (if that is correct) if they had a place?

TIA to all. This case is so difficult because the players involved are lying/covering up/clueless/etc and we cannot get a straight timeline from them.

They never went into detail about his schedule. They just said he was still going to work and being seen around D.C. from March 1st to March 19th but no specifics. I was wondering had SY seen him in that time while he was at work. I was also wondering when A/TW so called had the conversation with KT when he said he would bring her back around 5 that day...what day was that??? What was AT doing in that same time frame??? Why was he seen at another homeless shelter with Relisha??? Was he hiding her in plain sight???

 

[tlcya]

I wonder if she's bipolar or has some mental health issues because her FB post went back & forth/mood swings. I do wonder if she's receiving a disability check too. She may be on Anti-depressants...which can slow you down a lot and make you look high. I know some people on them...just wondering. Was she claiming disability for all the kids too??? And if so, why are they in the shelter for over 18 months again...with all these checks??? this is all just my opinion or thoughts.

:welcome:

I do not know. It is hard to tell with people I feel are in the drug lifestyle/ Which came first? The mental health issue followed by self medicating? Does it matter? It led here.

As far as the children, I have read or seen nothing which indicates there were benefits from social security or disability being collected on their behalf. If there is such documentation I would think it would be okay to link. Again, it would not shock me. But I have read nothing of such a thing.

 

[SusanB]

They never went into detail about his schedule. They just said he was still going to work and being seen around D.C. from March 1st to March 19th but no specifics. I was wondering had SY seen him in that time while he was at work. I was also wondering when A/TW so called had the conversation with KT when he said he would bring her back around 5 that day...what day was that??? What was AT doing in that same time frame??? Why was he seen at another homeless shelter with Relisha??? Was he hiding her in plain sight???

I did not know about the AW conversation with KT about bringing her back at 5. Anybody have details/links for that information?
Also did not know he was seen at another homeless shelter with Relisha!! When was that? Details/links?
Thanks so much

 

[SusanB]

I know that during the time from March 1 to March 19, the school staff was receiving reports that Relisha was sick and getting notice from "Dr.Tatum" (KT posing as a doctor) to excuse her from school.
Were these all written excuses, telephone calls, or what. Did the school speak directly with the person they thought was the doctor (KT) or was it the communication only from SY to the school?
Was SY seeing KT during the March 1 through March 19 at the shelter on his job, and supposedly while her daughter Relisha was "staying" at his home?
Was he telling her Relisha was just fine and chilling out at his apartment while she should have been in school?
What does Shameika say about what was going on during this time besides that fact that she thought her daughter was being taken care of so no worries?
None of this makes reasonable sense

 

[Guidedbyfaith]

:welcome:

I do not know. It is hard to tell with people I feel are in the drug lifestyle/ Which came first? The mental health issue followed by self medicating? Does it matter? It led here.

As far as the children, I have read or seen nothing which indicates there were benefits from social security or disability being collected on their behalf. If there is such documentation I would think it would be okay to link. Again, it would not shock me. But I have read nothing of such a thing.

I'm from the DMV so I would make make up how easy it is to get a disability check in the first place but if you read the entire post... my last statement was...this is all just my opinion or thoughts.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I did not know about the AW conversation with KT about bringing her back at 5. Anybody have details/links for that information?
Also did not know he was seen at another homeless shelter with Relisha!! When was that? Details/links?
Thanks so much

I tried to find it for you, but supposedly KT took her with him on 3/1 to another place where they help people get affordable housing. Maybe someone else will remember the name and you can Google it.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I know that during the time from March 1 to March 19, the school staff was receiving reports that Relisha was sick and getting notice from "Dr.Tatum" (KT posing as a doctor) to excuse her from school.
Were these all written excuses, telephone calls, or what. Did the school speak directly with the person they thought was the doctor (KT) or was it the communication only from SY to the school?
Was SY seeing KT during the March 1 through March 19 at the shelter on his job, and supposedly while her daughter Relisha was "staying" at his home?
Was he telling her Relisha was just fine and chilling out at his apartment while she should have been in school?
What does Shameika say about what was going on during this time besides that fact that she thought her daughter was being taken care of so no worries?
None of this makes reasonable sense

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local...500c6e-b43e-11e3-8cb6-284052554d74_story.html

I believe the dates are off on the last time she was seen at school, but this explains it a little.

 

[charminglane]

I know that during the time from March 1 to March 19, the school staff was receiving reports that Relisha was sick and getting notice from "Dr.Tatum" (KT posing as a doctor) to excuse her from school.
Were these all written excuses, telephone calls, or what. Did the school speak directly with the person they thought was the doctor (KT) or was it the communication only from SY to the school?
Was SY seeing KT during the March 1 through March 19 at the shelter on his job, and supposedly while her daughter Relisha was "staying" at his home?
Was he telling her Relisha was just fine and chilling out at his apartment while she should have been in school?
What does Shameika say about what was going on during this time besides that fact that she thought her daughter was being taken care of so no worries?
None of this makes reasonable sense

EXACTLY! She knows her daughter is not sick. The whole family knows Relisha is not sick. Yet they need a "Dr." To excuse her from school. Because if she were ill - wouldn't Grandma ask about her condition?
I'm actually of the opinion now that Grandma M might be behind this whole crime.

 

[Guidedbyfaith]

I did not know about the AW conversation with KT about bringing her back at 5. Anybody have details/links for that information?
Also did not know he was seen at another homeless shelter with Relisha!! When was that? Details/links?
Thanks so much

I will try to find the link but AW made that statement in an interview. As far as the other part, when the interview people at the last hotel(I believe) the person didnt want to be identifiedbut stated he saw Relisha with KT on March 1st or March 2nd(that's what person said) but not atthe hotel but at another homeless shelter which they said was on Rhode Island Ave....only shelter unrest area was relocated to 33 N Street, NE called Virginia Williams Family Resource Center. I believe the information was back on like Thread #3 but not 100% but it was discussion with other WS members.

I'll attempt to find it but I'm a newbie and haven't really got how to attach links

 

[Marg from Oz]

Do we know if grandma is being paid for all theses interviews?

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Do we know if grandma is being paid for all theses interviews?

If they are using photos from her...could be.

 

[2Hope4]

Well, I want Relisha found, as we all do, and live a wonderful ever after life!!!

I do NOT appreciate that 'thang' grandma coming onto the help find relisha page and cursing the very people that want to find her! She can go sit in a corner, and suck on lemons for all I care! I've got a dozen lemons I'll donate to her! But be damned if I am donating a single penny otherwise! Ugh she upsets me. Everyone of them upsets me.

I cried hard yesterday. Went on a rant about this case, and the issues surrounding it, including the illegal stealing of govt money. Mom reminded me that it's not God's will, but the devil is reigning, and unfortunately, it doesn't seem to take much for the devil to take over some people. I don't know the reasoning, and neither does my Mom. She cried for this child, and said it's so scary that there are hundreds, maybe even thousands of babies being treated the same way. I don't know if it's facts, so I'll say, IMO, Mom said she saw a show on TV talking about the huge child trafficking issues in DC. She said the pedofiles mantra was sex before 8, or it's too late.

What kind of world do we live in where people even think of such??? I wish God would strike them dead if they even had a thought about harming a child. POOF, another one bites the dust. Just every. single. one. of. them. POOF! Be gone! I don't care if we then have to worry about mass graves. Don't care at all. Just POOF be done with every one of them! Why dear Lord??? WHY?? Please just strike them dead!!!

:tantrum:

 

[2Hope4]

Do we know if grandma is being paid for all theses interviews?

I've wondered the same thing, and think YES otherwise we wouldn't hear a peep! :moo: :jail: Just do it LE! Lock 'em up!!! :jail:

 

[Loudmouth]

Everybody that lied to LE needs to be locked up for obstruction and lying to an investigator. They will start jonesing for dope and turn on each other very quickly.

They need to also locate the father of Relisha and lock him up for criminal child neglect. He should have been in the child's life and prevented the mother and grandmother from giving her over to KLT.

One thing I'm not clear on: the initial reports had an interview with someone they called Relisha's "stepfather", but the Facebook page with the money pics have some guy called Relisha's mother's boyfriend? Are these the same person or is there yet another party involved?

 

[Cinnamon]

Relisha Rudd's grandmother talks to WUSA9

http://www.wusa9.com/story/news/local/dc/2014/04/08/relisha-rudd-melissa-young-amber-alert/7492829/