DC DC - Relisha Tenau Rudd, 8, SE DC, 26 Feb 2014 - #5

[Guidedbyfaith]

Lanier said after Relisha was last seen, Tatum continued to go to work and was seen around the capital several times between March 2 and March 20. Lanier said Relisha was not with Tatum in any of those sightings. Tatum had not been seen since March 20.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/01/us/d-c-missing-girl/

Police said that Tatum “abruptly left before his shift,” and the social worker quickly discovered there was no “Dr. Tatum.” The worker contacted police.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local...7d38aa-b8d1-11e3-9a05-c739f29ccb08_story.html

I know what Lanier said, but what I can't get of my head...that places that he visited in those days are key. Possibly, in helping find Relisha. I just don't see, how KT would act normally if he killed Relisha. Does LE how information from any of the other phones to be 100% sure if his whereabouts? I think we are thinking too hard. I think the key to finding Relisha maybe simple. We are dealing with a family that can't think past the last lie they told. They aren't that intelligent based off of the media exposure... IMO. We know the dress and sweater that was bought in November 2013...maybe for Christmas... idk, but a dark colored dress for a little girl for Easter isn't normal. The last interview with MYT whereas SY showed up by surprise which I don't think was a surprise... IMO. SY said that she left Relisha there with At & MYT, right there in their face literally and neither one said anything against that. So, was that the truth or not??? I personally would not let my sister it mother lie about me on national TV and not say anything at all in defense of myself.

They seem to all suffer from narcissistic behavior which is a personality disorder. They put night effort into their lies because there's no reason for the lie. They just lie. If they could help it, all they needed to do was watch their interviews over and over to keep their stories straight. The don't talk against KT because he groomed them. I believe he supplied their needs when he was alive with money, drugs, etc. They don't seem hard to please...JMO. I think Relisha was a constant reminder of SY's childhood. But, in my mind...where did KT actually call home??? Where was he actually lying his head from March 2nd until March 19th???? Where were his clothes kept??? Career criminals are almost always stuck in time. I mean they normally are stuck in the decade that they went in sometimes making it difficult to adjust to the present. All that I've said is just my opinion clearly though. I wonder if MYT or KT were abused as children or in foster care. I apologize for my rant but after looking over everything again... we are trying to use logical thinking on illogical people...IMOO.

 

[bakerlady]

I always thought this case was about sex trafficking. I see no other likely alternative. KT took her to a hotel, he bought her a bathing suit and various gifts. He probably bought her the bathing suit to photograph her in it. I'm sorry to say but I have been doing some reading and this is common. These pedo guys get off on pictures of little girls in bathing suits, and even plain clothes.

It makes me sick just thinking about it. I remember watching a special about sex trafficking in Thailand I think, the girls were Relisha's age and some were in their young teens. They were locked in a home with other girls and forced into action. I think it was the Lisa Ling special..but I might be mistaken. What got me was that the people in charge of them were WOMEN not men.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I agree, this has never made sense to me. Why take care in hiding Relisha's body and then leave the wife's body to be found so readily (thus making himself even more wanted and on LE radar) if the plan was suicide for himself?

It bought him 30 days where he continued to work and carry on with his life up until the point where it became impossible for him to keep up the lies. Social worker was onto him and would expect him to produce RR which he couldn't do. He was backed into a corner.

The murder and suicide later isn't surprising. He knew it was over so hiding her didn't matter. I think he left the cars in the lot simply to avoid capture until he could do whatever it was he felt he had to do and it worked. They never caught him until he decided to give up completely.

 

[mysteriew]

The behaviour of SY, MYT, etc has always seemed strange, in the sense that they have no outrage at KLT, no shock or surprise about KLT, no need for answers about what happened to Relisha and where she is. Why? Frankly, I'm surprised that they haven't blamed everything on KLT, considering he's dead. Why is that?

I've been thinking of other ideas and just want to see what everyone thinks of this. What if something happened to Relisha while she was with SY and/or MYT on March 1 after the Instagram video at AS's, and one of them turned to KLT for help in hiding Relisha? Then KLT hides Relisha somewhere. They hope Relisha won't be missed, but then weeks later the ***** hits the fan when someone does start questioning Relisha's whereabouts. They along with KLT have already tried to cover Relisha's school absenses with the "DR.Tatum" story, and then KLT's wife is found murdered. It's telling that even then SY, MYT, etc., show no shock, surprise, horror or desperation to find Relisha. After the park search turned up KLT instead of Relisha, they defend KLT. Why? Why is it that there is no shock at the very least? Even with their guilt in sending Relisha off with KLT, why are they not displaying any shock or outrage about KLT at these turn of events, or desperation to find Relisha? Why continue to defend KLT? It's as if they already know what has happened to Relisha. And these questions about their behavior are still valid even if the above scenario isn't what happened.

Just throwing another scenario out there that could help explain the behavior of SY, MYT and perhaps others in the face of all evidence against KLT. What are we missing?

Where is Relisha?

This case reminds me so much of that Fla case. She also didn't show anger toward the person she said had her child. She also didn't seem all that alarmed about the child being missing until others started asking questions. She also claimed someone else was caring for her child. The major difference here is that the person who allegedly had the child was a living person. And he had had Relisha in his care recently. But he hasn't been available to ask if he returned her or not. So in some ways this is a Z situation also.

ETA: her mother also said she was a good mother IIRC.

One thing I haven't seen anyone ask mom or grandma. When they agreed to let Relisha go with Tatum, what was the game plan? It is usual when kids visit to set up a return date. Was that done? Did they send all her clothing or just enough for overnight or a week or what? Was there any discussion with him about how long the visit would be before she left?

Just my own opinion of course.

 

[Solitaryone]

If something happened to Relisha while in the care of SY and/or MYT, and if they asked KLT to help hide Relisha, KLT might have gone along with this to hide evidence of sexual abuse. But then questions arise about Relisha's school absences, and they won't stop. At that point, none of them can tell the truth without implicating themselves. Then KLT, who had filed for divorce from AKT, decides he has to kill AKT. Why and when did KLT decide this? In what way was AKT a threat? When AKT's body is found, and LE determines that KLT is a suspect in not only the murder of AKT, but in the disappearance of Relisha, KLT kills himself knowing that he would spend the rest of his life in prison if caught. But, at this point, when AKT is found, SY, MYT, and perhaps others' don't know that KLT was going to kill himself. Yet, at this stage, none of them show any fear for Relisha, or outrage toward KLT, even though AKT is found dead from a gunshot to the head, and KLT is nowhere to be found. At this point, since they don't know that KLT is going to be found dead, they for some reasons continue to defend KLT. Maybe they think if they say anything against KLT, he'll tell what he knows about their part in what happened to Relisha, when he is caught. But when KLT is found, they still don't react with shock at the turn of events, or fear for Relisha, or "ANY" outrage toward KLT. WHY? I'm starting to think that SY, MYT and perhaps others', forgot or didn't realize until it was too late that it would have looked better for them if they had blamed everything on KLT.

If something like this scenario is what happened to Relisha, it could account for a lot of SY, MYT and perhaps others' behaviors. It would help answer some of these questions anyway.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

What date was the pool party?

 

[mysteriew]

What date was the pool party?

My memory isn't all that great anymore. Was it Mar.1?

 

[mysteriew]

http://www.wusa9.com/story/news/inv...14/04/03/relisha-rudd-swimsuit-motel/7271399/

You tell me. It was either Feb 26 or Mar 1. I don't think it is clear.

 

[Solitaryone]

What date was the pool party?

Feb.26, the same date as the Holiday Inn video footage.

http://www.wusa9.com/story/news/inv...14/04/03/relisha-rudd-swimsuit-motel/7271399/

 

[SeriouslySearching]

My memory isn't all that great anymore. Was it Mar.1?

February 26th http://www.wusa9.com/story/news/inv...14/04/03/relisha-rudd-swimsuit-motel/7271399/

I have been confused about the video with RR and KT. I thought it was taken on the 1st. So RR was with him at the hotel until the 1st when he brought her back to SY or he brought RR back that same day?

Why would KT bring her back if the swimsuit and party were a cover for a child shoot? Wouldn't he be worried RR would tell someone?

It still seems SY had RR last not KT because she did have the March 1st video of her dancing. Right?

 

[SeriouslySearching]

http://www.wusa9.com/story/news/inv...14/04/03/relisha-rudd-swimsuit-motel/7271399/

You tell me. It was either Feb 26 or Mar 1. I don't think it is clear.

Glad I am not the only one who is confused here.

 

[mysteriew]

February 26th http://www.wusa9.com/story/news/inv...14/04/03/relisha-rudd-swimsuit-motel/7271399/

I have been confused about the video with RR and KT. I thought it was taken on the 1st. So RR was with him at the hotel until the 1st when he brought her back to SY or he brought RR back that same day?

Why would KT bring her back if the swimsuit and party were a cover for a child shoot? Wouldn't he be worried RR would tell someone?

It still seems SY had RR last not KT because she did have the March 1st video of her dancing. Right?

The pretty little swimsuit could have been her reward for "being good." Or it could be that it wasn't a secret.

 

[mysteriew]

Glad I am not the only one who is confused here.

There is a lot of confusion in this case. But am I right in thinking that this is where the most confusion is? And hasn't there been some differing stories about this part? When last seen, who had her?

 

[Solitaryone]

February 26th http://www.wusa9.com/story/news/inv...14/04/03/relisha-rudd-swimsuit-motel/7271399/

I have been confused about the video with RR and KT. I thought it was taken on the 1st. So RR was with him at the hotel until the 1st when he brought her back to SY or he brought RR back that same day?

Why would KT bring her back if the swimsuit and party were a cover for a child shoot? Wouldn't he be worried RR would tell someone?

It still seems SY had RR last not KT because she did have the March 1st video of her dancing. Right?

LE has said the last place KLT and Relisha were at was the Days Inn, not the Holiday Inn. The "pool party" was supposed to be at the Holiday Inn on Feb.26. I doubt there was any "pool party'. Just more CYA mode from SY, and MYT, AS, etc.

 

[Solitaryone]

Another thing brought up by others, if Relisha was ever playing with any "granddaughter" of KLT's, someone would have known this childs name. Certainly Relisha would have spoken of this mystery "granddaughter". But, they never refer to this alleged "granddaughter" of KLT's by name. I think that is just another of their stories, cause if they could name this mystery "granddaughter" of KLT's, they would have.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

LE has said the last place KLT and Relisha were at was the Days Inn, not the Holiday Inn. The "pool party" was supposed to be at the Holiday Inn on Feb.26. I doubt there was any "pool party'. Just more CYA mode from SY, and MYT, AS, etc.

It is so difficult to get all this straight when it seems no one is telling the truth. If we are to believe them then RR would have told someone if there was no swimming after the fuss of the suit, but the entire suit situation could have been a lie on their part not KT's. Still...there was a pool at the Holiday Inn. They have photos of the two of them walking down the hallway...so LE knows if it shows RR heading to the pool or back with wet hair/towels.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

There is a lot of confusion in this case. But am I right in thinking that this is where the most confusion is? And hasn't there been some differing stories about this part? When last seen, who had her?

YES! However, LE keeps saying it was KT. But...isn't it what they have to go by since they cannot prove otherwise now? When the AA went up, it was all on KT and the assumption he had RR with him. The information came from SY. Correct?

 

[mysteriew]

It is so difficult to get all this straight when it seems no one is telling the truth. If we are to believe them then RR would have told someone if there was no swimming after the fuss of the suit, but the entire suit situation could have been a lie on their part not KT's. Still...there was a pool at the Holiday Inn. They have photos of the two of them walking down the hallway...so LE knows if it shows RR heading to the pool or back with wet hair/towels.

We may not know. But I feel pretty certain that LE knows. But they can't do anything with what they know until they get enough proof.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

We may not know. But I feel pretty certain that LE knows. But they can't do anything with what they know until they get enough proof.

hone: They can't just pick up the phone to call us and let us know?! heh :banghead:

 

[popsicle]

YES! However, LE keeps saying it was KT. But...isn't it what they have to go by since they cannot prove otherwise now? When the AA went up, it was all on KT and the assumption he had RR with him. The information came from SY. Correct?

I am only guessing here....I think LE has video of KT and RR at the Days Inn on 3/1. Nothing on video showing RR leaving with KT and on 3/2 KT going to Home Depot and purchasing the things he did.