DC DC - Relisha Tenau Rudd, 8, SE DC, 26 Feb 2014 - #6

[nikki80]

I think I am going to go to this. Hubby is going fishing this weekend so I have to find babysitting but I really want to go.

 

[Bootsctr]

I think I am going to go to this. Hubby is going fishing this weekend so I have to find babysitting but I really want to go.

Oh Nikki! That would be wonderful to have a websleuther at this event. I think you would be able to provide us some excellent insight as to what some of the people closest to Relisha's case are thinking. :loveyou: I wish I could go with you, but alas being in Texas I cannot, but will be there in spirit.

I am not a conspiracist type person at all, but at this point I don't know what's the truth and what's not. I am not even sure if it was Tatum, RSL and one other guy or two other guys that went to the Red Roof Inn where Andrea had rented a room.

Of note, I think the video clip of Relisha and Tatum being shown at the Days Inn (or was it the better motel) was strange. I watched it a couple of times and it shows Relisha and Tatum both make a right turn and you only see them from the back, like they know which direction they know the room is in, but then Tatum tries the key/card and it's like he realizes they are at the wrong room and then they turn around and you see both of their faces. It's almost like somebody was trying to get their faces from the front. I don't know. It's strange and we need straight answers! :tyou::cheer:

 

[nikki80]

Oh Nikki! That would be wonderful to have a websleuther at this event. I think you would be able to provide us some excellent insight as to what some of the people closest to Relisha's case are thinking. :loveyou: I wish I could go with you, but alas being in Texas I cannot, but will be there in spirit.

I am not a conspiracist type person at all, but at this point I don't know what's the truth and what's not. I am not even sure if it was Tatum, RSL and one other guy or two other guys that went to the Red Roof Inn where Andrea had rented a room.

Of note, I think the video clip of Relisha and Tatum being shown at the Days Inn (or was it the better motel) was strange. I watched it a couple of times and it shows Relisha and Tatum both make a right turn and you only see them from the back, like they know which direction they know the room is in, but then Tatum tries the key/card and it's like he realizes they are at the wrong room and then they turn around and you see both of their faces. It's almost like somebody was trying to get their faces from the front. I don't know. It's strange and we need straight answers! :tyou::cheer:

Hiya Boots! I went to the last one Manpower did a few weeks ago. I was on WS while there lol. Well the family waited in the car for me because I didn't have anyone to go with me but I was determined to go. Anyway, I helped hand out some fliers on the corner of NY Ave. There was no family there when I was there. Evidentally, they came later but I posted pics from there on here and NONE of the family was there. I stayed from around 330/345 until about 5:30. It was really emotional. Not a dry eye in sight. This time, I will try to stay longer although my husband will be on the eastern shore and he might not agree with me going alone. Argh. Gotta see how I can work this. Maybe I can convince brother in law to go with me.

 

[TurtlePie]

KT's apartment that he was evicted from was completely empty when LE searched it and nothing had to be removed for the eviction. Another user pointed out that he was subletting that place and it was not where he lived with AT. So, who lived there? When did they leave? Did KT bring Relisha there? Did he use the trash bags to clean the place up?

A search on that address... 3590 Hayes St NE, brings up a name from the Tatum family (not KT or AT). It also brings up as a related name (last), one of which has been mentioned in an obituary for KT's sister. The address also seems to be related to a business that is attached to the related name. I have my jumbo coffee and am in my comfies, preparing to start digging.

 

[bakerlady]

I too wonder where they got Ricky Lyles from. Why did they suspect he was involved? So confusing.

 

[bakerlady]

A search on that address... 3590 Hayes St NE, brings up a name from the Tatum family (not KT or AT). It also brings up as a related name (last), one of which has been mentioned in an obituary for KT's sister. The address also seems to be related to a business that is attached to the related name. I have my jumbo coffee and am in my comfies, preparing to start digging.

I was sleepy last night when I posted that but I am alert now, two cups in, and ready to dig too.

I want to find Relisha!

 

[nikki80]

I've never followed a case this closely. Does it normally take them this long to arrest the parents? I don't understand why WE clearly see that the parents are withholding information but LE isn't acting. This is very frustrating. It's not like they are helping with the investigation. What is the hold up!?

 

[hambirg]

I too wonder where they got Ricky Lyles from. Why did they suspect he was involved? So confusing.

I think there were several cameras at The Red Roof Inn, both from how it was all reported, but IIRC also from the warrants. I think they probably had the tags from whatever vehicle was driven there, as well, as some good video. RSL has a lengthy rap sheet and is connected to KT/AT. I think LE figured out his identity fairly quickly. KT may have also called him before he turned off his phone that day. Any of those things could have pointed at RSL for LE.

I've never followed a case this closely. Does it normally take them this long to arrest the parents? I don't understand why WE clearly see that the parents are withholding information but LE isn't acting. This is very frustrating. It's not like they are helping with the investigation. What is the hold up!?

Yes. :sigh: Sometimes there is never an arrest. It's one thing to know someone is lying and quite another for LE to prove it. See the Ayla Reynolds, Lisa Irwin, many more ad nauseam cases. :tantrum:

I wanted to add a weird thought I had this morning. Could KT have used the lime to thaw the ground? Adding water to lime will create quite a bit of heat. I wonder it this could have allowed him to dig through the frozen layer, because it would have only been frozen on the surface. Idk, but it was a thought.

 

[mysteriew]

I've never followed a case this closely. Does it normally take them this long to arrest the parents? I don't understand why WE clearly see that the parents are withholding information but LE isn't acting. This is very frustrating. It's not like they are helping with the investigation. What is the hold up!?

First they have to have absolute proof of a crime being committed, not just an appearance of a crime. For instance is family deliberately witholding info? Or are they just..... uhhh.....inept? Did they knowingly send their child off with someone for neferious purposes or did they really just think he was a nice guy? And can they prove it to an impartial jury, with a defense attorney arguing that there were other reasons for whatever they did? Plus if they charge now, they lose their chance to speak to family without an attorney present.

The longer they wait the more info they can gather and there is a possibility of greater charges.

In all fairness I do have to point out that we don't know what they have told LE. Maybe it is the same BS we are seeing in media. But the possibility exists they have been more forthcoming with LE.

 

[Guidedbyfaith]

Hasn't the family said something along the lines of Tatum telling them that he had sent Relisha someplace where she could be safe? And they said something about somebody was after him? But if that was the case, if someone was after him why wouldn't he take Relisha home to be "safe?"

The only thing that lying bunch of people said. I don't recall which interview it was but SY said that MYT told her if anything happen to him or his wife...Relisha would be set. Now a debate went on a few threads ago on whether or not...she said "set" or "safe". I thought I heard "set"...but regardless of the outcome of that debate. We all here on WS, that the comment was strange either way...what made SY say that because it was very early on in the case ... after the police were involved.

Clearly, JMO...

 

[ohhieliz]

I wanted to add a weird thought I had this morning. Could KT have used the lime to thaw the ground? Adding water to lime will create quite a bit of heat. I wonder it this could have allowed him to dig through the frozen layer, because it would have only been frozen on the surface. Idk, but it was a thought.

I am not sure KT has this much knowledge about the substance to know it would thaw anything. If he did know that (and I'm not 100% that would work), I think LE would have found search engine results for queries regarding "how to thaw the soil" etc.

 

[kimi_SFC]

First they have to have absolute proof of a crime being committed, not just an appearance of a crime. For instance is family deliberately witholding info? Or are they just..... uhhh.....inept? Did they knowingly send their child off with someone for neferious purposes or did they really just think he was a nice guy? And can they prove it to an impartial jury, with a defense attorney arguing that there were other reasons for whatever they did? Plus if they charge now, they lose their chance to speak to family without an attorney present.

The longer they wait the more info they can gather and there is a possibility of greater charges.

In all fairness I do have to point out that we don't know what they have told LE. Maybe it is the same BS we are seeing in media. But the possibility exists they have been more forthcoming with LE.

I completely agree with this mysteriew. In addition to the excellent points you've made, I have a few. As long as Relisha's family members are willingly making statements via various media outlets and on social media, there's no reason to take them into custody at this point. I am certain they are under surveillance, and LE is constantly weighing the "risk vs. reward." :moo:

IMV, every word spoken by them, individually, and collectively, equals more data to be analyzed (more rope, if you will). This could help to connect previous dots, or better yet, potentially lead them to Relisha. These statements are being made pre-Miranda, and could hold the key to what happened to precious Relisha. I also believe whatever happens once the case is in the adjudication process will rely on these statements.

Although it is torturous, at times, to know they are living their lives, at least in the public eye, as though things haven't change much, I fully believe those days are numbered.

The pursuit of #JusticeForRelisha will not allow their actions to go unanswered, OR unpunished. The #FindRelisha movement continues to gain momentum, and will not stop until she is returned. I absolutely believe if she is found alive lease:, she will have a future brighter than she has ever known. I am raying: she will be allowed to live the life she deserves, the one she (and her siblings) should have had from the beginning.

(Apologies for the long post - again :blushing: )


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[nikki80]

Just watched the last interview the Grandmother did. Did anyone notice that she said that the March 1 video that was uploaded to instagram was taken at her house? But you can clearly see those same shelter beds that were in another post. That was not MY's house. Why would she lie and say that the video was in her house? I am not sure she saw her March 1. Why would she lie about the location of the video?

In case anyone wants to see what I am talking about...she says it at the 0:20 mark http://www.wusa9.com/story/news/local/dc/2014/04/08/relisha-rudd-melissa-young-amber-alert/7492829/

 

[Cinnamon]

I do not recall Chief Lanier ever saying anything about lime and/or shovel...just bags.

Snipped & BBM. I don't remember that either. In fact, IRRC, one reporter asked about the lime, shovel, and trash bags, and in her answer she only mentioned the bags...it stuck out in my mind that she only mentioned the bags, and not the lime and shovel. I could be wrong, I'll have try to find that presser later when I get home.

I'm catching up from last night's posts, so apologies if this has already been answered...I just wanted to comment while I was thinking about it

 

[tlcya]

there is some confusion about the videos. two were posted. One was taken March 1st per the time stamp on the video itself and NOT the social media upload date according to LE. That video does not feature Reilisha dancing and was taken at either SY's mother or sister home.

The second video was taken at some unknown time earlier and was taken at the shelter with Relisha dancing in front of the row of beds.

I believe that the report linked here is deceptive. The interview with grandma, she is refrring to the video which did not feature Relisha dancing. But while they are playing her statement about that the news station is showing footage of the dancing video.

Gramma has enough trouble keeping her stories straight. She needs no help to confuse issues further from media but I feel that is what happened here. Media.

Not gramma lying.

Please note this will probably be the first and last time you ever see me type that sentence.

http://www.wusa9.com/story/news/local/dc/2014/04/08/relisha-rudd-melissa-young-amber-alert/7492829/

 

[kimi_SFC]

there is some confusion about the videos. two were posted. One was taken March 1st per the time stamp on the video itself and NOT the social media upload date according to LE. That video does not feature Reilisha dancing and was taken at either SY's mother or sister home.

The second video was taken at some unknown time earlier and was taken at the shelter with Relisha dancing in front of the row of beds.

I believe that the report linked here is deceptive. The interview with grandma, she is refrring to the video which did not feature Relisha dancing. But while they are playing her statement about that the news station is showing footage of the dancing video.

Gramma has enough trouble keeping her stories straight. She needs no help to confuse issues further from media but I feel that is what happened here. Media.

Not gramma lying.

Please note this will probably be the first and last time you ever see me type that sentence.

http://www.wusa9.com/story/news/local/dc/2014/04/08/relisha-rudd-melissa-young-amber-alert/7492829/

ticya, you bring up an excellent point! ABC was able to extract the EXF data and verify the "My Family/ Hi IG" video time stamp and released a redacted version.

Perhaps it is time for someone here to contact WUSA & ask them to do the same with the video of Relisha dancing. Hint hint

It will help to clarify the timeline greatly, and allow WUSA to have their own story. Further, it will bring us step closer towards our common goal:

#FindRelisha!

:twocents:


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[popsicle]

Snipped & BBM. I don't remember that either. In fact, IRRC, one reporter asked about the lime, shovel, and trash bags, and in her answer she only mentioned the bags...it stuck out in my mind that she only mentioned the bags, and not the lime and shovel. I could be wrong, I'll have try to find that presser later when I get home.

I'm catching up from last night's posts, so apologies if this has already been answered...I just wanted to comment while I was thinking about it

Let me save you some time. Chief Lanier only ever stated the trash bags. A reporter from WUSA dbl sourced the lime and shovel info.

 

[popsicle]

The video of SY and the kids, on 3/1, was taken at Aunt Ashley's. msm reported that the embedded date was 3/1....LE has not spoken on that.

 

[popsicle]

Lanier says police, public frustrated by lack of new leads in Relisha Rudd case

Volunteers joined by police and parks officials are planning to make another attempt on Saturday to find Relisha in Kenilworth Park and surrounding neighborhoods. They will begin searching and handing out fliers at 4 p.m. at the R Street Entrance of the National Arboretum in Northeast.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local...ial&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

 

[nikki80]

Ive never seen the entire video. It's over 1 minute long. http://bcove.me/lkprn6w0