DC DC - Relisha Tenau Rudd, 8, SE DC, 26 Feb 2014 - #6

[zoomom]

Hey hey! I remember what my other thought was last night, and it is right in line with this discussion. What if she never went back with Tatum???? They claimed he had her since 26th, but we all know that isn't true now. They had her on the 1st, the same day she was last seen with him! Maybe his sighting was before her going home! Maybe, just maybe, he has nothing to do with her disappearance at all!

Second big ole revelation- go back and read the transcript of this interview that was just done. Shamika tells the nephew she knows some things about Tatum, was he from Kenilworth. Well, of course, she should know plenty about him or else she shouldn't allow her child to be with him, right? That makes me think it is a secret she is talking about and threatening to expose, not just that he was from there. She was trying to let him know she is aware of his connection to something else, maybe her mother? (who wants to find out if Melissa is from Kenilworth or lived there???) THEN she asks how long he was with his wife. She knows this! She was friends with Tatum! She was trying to show him she was about to connect the dots for people. That is for suuuuuuure my take on it! And we can certainly do that. Thanks, Shamika!

BBM - this is where my pointed little brain is going, too. Something is funky.

JMO.

 

[mysteriew]

Hambirg you did bring up a point that I hadn't considered.

The KLT nephew has confirmed there was a pool party. But KLT was also at a motel with his wife and I couldn't understand why. It very well could be because he was trying to avoid LE. What better way to do it than staying in a motel.

 

[Guidedbyfaith]

Could KT be Relisha's grandfather?????????? And therefore Shamika's bio dad?? Why do I get the feeling there is some big family secret going on?

I was thinking the exact same thing. Who is SY's real father? Is it on her birth certificate??? Probably not because "Young" is mother's maiden name...JMO. Didn't MYT use to live in Virginia??? ***Just going off of SY being in Virginia foster care from the age of 6*** Did anyone ever cross their (MYT & KT) paths??? Is that why MYT is so sure in an interview that SY & KT were not involved in an intimate relationship??? Is that why MYT won't talk bad about him??? Is that why MYT & AY conjured up this granddaughter around the same age...because KT is really Relisha's grandfather...this theory is JMO but wouldn't it throw a curve ball into this mess???

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Could KT be Relisha's grandfather?????????? And therefore Shamika's bio dad?? Why do I get the feeling there is some big family secret going on?

They claim a DNA test was done on RR and KT wasn't her father, but have no idea if it is true. No one mentioned if he could be her grandfather. Perhaps someone should ask SY tomorrow night if KT is related to her or RR in ANY way.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Hambirg you did bring up a point that I hadn't considered.

The KLT nephew has confirmed there was a pool party. But KLT was also at a motel with his wife and I couldn't understand why. It very well could be because he was trying to avoid LE. What better way to do it than staying in a motel.

The pool party was supposedly on Feb. 26th before LE was even looking for him, right? And I would like someone to follow up with nephew about how he came to know about this party and the details.

If he filed for a divorce in early February, why would his wife be there? Was she served? I didn't see the paperwork on that one.

I do think the stay at the end was to avoid LE and the same reason he didn't drive his cars after the 19th.

 

[zoomom]

They claim a DNA test was done on RR and KT wasn't her father, but have no idea if it is true. No one mentioned if he could be her grandfather. Perhaps someone should ask SY tomorrow night if KT is related to her or RR in ANY way.

Related by BLOOD. Not some higgledy-piggeldy "wanna be Godfather".

(Sorry, I'm old.)

JMO and all that.

 

[zoomom]

They claim a DNA test was done on RR and KT wasn't her father, but have no idea if it is true. No one mentioned if he could be her grandfather. Perhaps someone should ask SY tomorrow night if KT is related to her or RR in ANY way.

Perhaps someone should do a DNA test on the grand mom. to see who is related. sorry, but I think she is in the center of this.

I think she is cagey. And she thinks she can out fox the P.D. with all her jibber-jabber.

 

[debloree]

I've missed so much since Sunday. Thanks everyone for posting what was on the radio show!!!

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Perhaps someone should do a DNA test on the grand mom. to see who is related. sorry, but I think she is in the center of this.

I think she is cagey. And she thinks she can out fox the P.D. with all her jibber-jabber.

Right now, she seems to be trying to control this runaway train without much luck. They need to stop tripping themselves up and just tell the truth. Have any of them offered to take a LDT? Have any of them asked LE to do whatever it takes to clear them?

We can ask questions all day long (except to AW and he only goes out at night to look for this beautiful little girl by the light of the moon), but the real questions should be coming from LE to them. We aren't seeing them being escorted back and forth into headquarters as we have seen happen with family members in past cases.

We haven't heard LE implicate anyone else except KT in any of this. He is their only suspect in the abduction, murder, and suicide. Has LE closed themselves off to the other possibilities? They have with the murder and suicide. Case closed on the murder of AKT. And what if RR was not with KT last? How could they really know?

 

[PLT]

IMO and sadly I think Relisha may be in the park. AT found out what KT was up to. He knew LE was on to him and the jig was up. I still think this case is relatively simple. Sadly. IMO. No man of that age takes an interest in a young female child without raising a red flag. We do know KT had approached others at the Shelter.

I really would like to think Tatum was set up but I have to agree with you. If the reports are true that Tatum approached girls with 20 dollar bills - there was something not right. His nephew said he never saw Relisha at his uncles house so that makes sense of the hotel stays . I think Tatum had 2 sides to him and those worlds clashed.

I would be willing to bet if the school has any doctor notes on file - they will match KTs handwriting. I think MY played a role as well. I would love to know why Shamika was removed from her mothers care when she was 6 if that is true.

 

[Guidedbyfaith]

They claim a DNA test was done on RR and KT wasn't her father, but have no idea if it is true. No one mentioned if he could be her grandfather. Perhaps someone should ask SY tomorrow night if KT is related to her or RR in ANY way.

Right now, based off the last interview and discussion. A DNA test probably was done for IR
which showed he was definitely without a doubt Relisha biological father. Remember, we talked about IR probably had to first be proven the father by DNA before he could fight for custody or visitation back a few threads. I don't think they meant a DNA was done for KT....IMOO. But, I think we need a DNA test for SY, now....clearly my opinion... but I also think that if this is the case....granddaddy KT was locked so much when they(his children ) were younger that he was trying to make up for it with Relisha???

What would make that theory even worst...what if only MYT & possibly AT & KT were the only ones that know that he was SY's father??? And SY, only knows that MYT & KT might have been involved back during the Kenilworth days while he was married to AT??? JMO, this not actual fact...just my thoughts and another theory. Hmmmm.....

 

[Guidedbyfaith]

The pool party was supposedly on Feb. 26th before LE was even looking for him, right? And I would like someone to follow up with nephew about how he came to know about this party and the details.

If he filed for a divorce in early February, why would his wife be there? Was she served? I didn't see the paperwork on that one.

I do think the stay at the end was to avoid LE and the same reason he didn't drive his cars after the 19th.

I'm not 100% sure where in the thread that it's located. It was a legal separation filed by KT. I'm going to see if I google it...if it will pop up.

It not the thread but it's an article....and would you are looking for is like last red highlighted paragraph and then there green highlighted paragraphs.

http://newsdiffs.org/diff/532412/53...2d76ee-b994-11e3-9a05-c739f29ccb08_story.html

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I missed this: Search warrants filed in D.C. Superior Court indicate that Tatum used a bank card to pay for a parking meter in Washington on March 18, the day before police took up the case. He used the bank card again to make a payment by e-mail at 3:12 a.m. March 21.

http://newsdiffs.org/diff/532412/53...2d76ee-b994-11e3-9a05-c739f29ccb08_story.html

 

[Solitaryone]

Well this is my new theory. . .I hope I make sense.

I had to go back to the beginning.

SY and company originally said on 3/19 they hadn't seen Relisha since 2/26. That was the story. And it just conveniently happened to coincide with a time Tatum did have Relisha. Obviously, because of the 3/1 video, Tatum did bring her back after the 2/26 night at the Holiday Inn.

Relisha had already missed a lot of school by early March. I believe they were allowing Tatum to take her at least sometime in early Feb. "but he always brought her back." But they stopped sending her to school. They had to know why he was taking her. Why stop sending her to school? I think they were afraid she was going to tell someone what was happening. That's where all the crazy stories (excuses) come in about her being under the care of a Dr Tatum and the non-existent trip to Georgia. Because remember SY originally said Relisha was in Georgia with MYT? Now MYT says she was with Tatum. I think it's all bunk. Those were just excuses why she wasn't in school.

We know on 3/1 Relisha was at AY's and SY was also there. This is where all their stories become this huge cluster fawk. No one wants to admit that Relisha was in their care. They are all pointing fingers at each other. It would give Judge Judy a massive migraine! :banghead:

I see two possibilities, but only one makes sense knowing what we know.

Either they were all at AY's and knowingly allowed Relisha to go with Tatum. Something happened to her while at the Days Inn. Tatum disposes of her and goes on about his life until the school social worker comes sniffing around the shelter on 3/19 and the rest is self explanatory. Tatum kills his wife, "the family" is afraid to speak badly knowing he is still out there. And if he could kill his own wife, he probably wouldn't have any problem offing any of them.

But that doesn't explain why they didn't report her missing sooner and why they are still defending him now.

OR the second possibility. . .

Something happened to Relisha on 3/1 while still in the care of either MYT and AY or SY. . .or maybe all three. I think most likely it was at AY's though, which is why SY is trying to wash her hands of any responsibility. I think they would have called Tatum, because taking Relisha to an ER or calling 911 would have revealed the abuse. They pass a dead or dying Relisha off to Tatum to take care of. He checks into the Days Inn for two nights. LE hasn't shown us any surveillance video from that night, but they seem to believe Relisha was there. Maybe Tatum carried her as if she was sleeping. I find it interesting that LE used some type of device that had to due with bullet trajectory. Anyone remember that? Maybe Tatum realized that Relisha wasn't going to make it, and being someone who had worked with horses, he put her down. The next day he buys supplies at Home Depot and spends time at Kenilworth Park.

Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, goes on about their business as if nothing has happened until 3/19.

The school most likely calls MYT, she calls Tatum. . .this would be the ridiculous "we talked to Relisha. She made breakfast" call. IMHO that call was really to tip Tatum off that the school was going to call and it was time to play Dr Tatum again. Which is exactly what he did! Maybe he thought the social worker would just drop off some forms at the shelter, but that pesky social worker was probably beginning to smell the sewage these people were spreading. He flees. The Richmond trip I'm still not sure of what to make of that. Get a weapon, get rid of stolen goods, child , computers, etc. We still don't know where this truck came from. I think most of us assume it's RSL, but we really don't know.

Tatum gathers AT because they can't be at their apartment, LE will be there soon, no doubt. There might have been things that had to be moved out. He calls RSL for the truck. They move some stuff and go to the Red Roof Inn. I think Tatum was probably telling he was in trouble with the police and needed help. He didn't do anything but he helped the wrong people and now it's going to be really bad for him. I think AT would have needed more info than that to understand why she can't be at her own apt. I imagine Tatum was telling her she could go with him or stay, but if she stays she had to say. . .there was pool party on 2/26, he spent every night at home, Relisha used to come to their apt, etc. I think she refused. I'm sure Tatum would have conveniently left out the part where he abused Relisha, so maybe AT was insisting he go to the police. I'm sure they fought. Tatum kills her.

At this point, if you go with theory number one, it would make sense that SY and company would have gotten very real and truthful very fast. But they didn't!!! They're still in CYA mode! :thud:

I think Tatum then tied up a few loose ends and covers his tracks having anything to do with his deep dark secret. I think at that point he probably became despondent. He killed his wife of many years, for all intents and purposes, sounds like he loved. I think he went back to the park and ended it all there. It was where all this trouble began.

But now we still have "the family" acting crazy, shady, guilty, etc. SY didn't bring out the 3/1 video until she thinks she is taking to much heat and wants to reflect that Relisha was with MYT and AY. . .EVEN though SY WAS ACTUALLY THERE DURING THE VIDEO! :banghead: If Relisha is actually found, it might show what actually happened to her. It's probably why we have differing descriptions of her shoes, MYT parades out the Easter dress pics, everyone is sure she is still alive and sold off to some mystery guy on the Metro, or in Richmond, or. . or. . .or. . .:moo::moo::moo:

Door #2 has been my theory also! I think something happened to Relisha at AY's, and MYT was there. Maybe whatever happened was after SY left AY's, IF she left. I think MYT asked KLT to hide Relisha, KLT had been abusing Relisha, and he didn't evidence of that coming out, so he went along with with MYT and AY, and hid Relisha. I think KLT killed his wife because she wouldn't cover for him, he had nowhere to turn, he went back to the park and killed himself, and MYT, AY, SY and AW/TW kept and continue to keep lying to cover their own a$$e$, all for their own reasons.

Then there's the theory KLT could be SY's bio-dad, and Relisha's granddad.......

Great post!

 

[Solitaryone]

QUOTE=2Hope4;10453730]In that interview with Ashley, WHY did she say Tatum took Relisha to school, but she hadn't been cleared so she couldn't stay, and Ashley stated Tatum told the school he needed to leave Relisha there because "she talks too much

First of all, how would Ashley know what happened, if it happened, at that exchange? It would have been Relisha, the school official, and Tatum present. So how would Ashley know about ANY communication that occurred???

I need to try to transcribe that entire interview. And oh, the reason Ashley left abruptly in that interview? Melissa claimed she took the phone and hung up.

I don't know how to really do this yet but the link below shows that DC Schools were closed on that Monday, March 17, 2014 that MYT stated that she spoke to KT on March 12th. In that lie, MYT stated she called KT about if the broken tablet had a warranty(Yeah right!!!), his whereabouts(ATL...hmmm???), was Relisha with him(no, one minute & yes, the next???), that Relisha needed to be back home by March 16th(Sunday), that KT didn't bring her home that day but the next day(Monday, March 17th)....he attempted to take her to school but they told him that she had one week of medical leave????

Ok, this is my problem with this interview...

***MYT stated she called SY & asked her if she knew that Relisha was in ATL(SY stated KT asked but she said "no")

Now, it's so call...March 12th, right: Why in the H.E.double hockey stick didn't either one of them call the police right then & there....me: BECAUSE IT DIDN'T HAPPEN, Y'ALL DON'T CARE ABOUT RELISHA, & MYT(you idiot)...SY, IS CLUELESS BECAUSE RELISHA ALWAYS WAS PICKED UP & DROPPED OFF FROM YOU & ASHLEY'S HOUSE!!!

On the 16th...no RELISHA still...Why in the H.E.double hockey stick didn't either one of them call the police right then & there....me: BECAUSE IT DIDN'T HAPPEN, Y'ALL DON'T CARE ABOUT RELISHA, & MYT(you idiot)...SY, IS CLUELESS BECAUSE RELISHA ALWAYS WAS PICKED UP & DROPPED OFF FROM YOU & ASHLEY'S HOUSE!!!

ON the morning of the 17th...MYT spoke with KT...he claimed he tried to drop Relisha off at school & gave her the story about the school said Relisha still had one week of medical leave. MYT said she knew that school was closed...SO, WHY IN THE H#LL DIDN'T SHE CALL THE POLICE??? WHY DIDN'T SHE QUESTION KT??? WHO DID KT GET THIS INFORMATION FROM BECAUSE SCHOOL WAS CLOSED IN THE DISTRICT ON THE 17TH & MYT STATED SHE WAS AWARE OF THIS FACT!!! SO BASED ON HER EXPLANATION...SHE HAS JUST GAVE LE PROOF THAT SHE WAS AN ACCESSORY IN THE DISAPPEARANCE OF RELISHA!!!

ALL OF THIS IS JUST MY OPINION OF THAT INTERVIEW ... IMOO MYT IS DEFINITELY THE RINGLEADER & AY IS HER RIGHT HAND MAN!!!

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/l...ng-up-at-washington-area-schools-this-winter/

I apologize for my yelling, typos, etc. And again this is JMO. It just makes me angry that they either believe they're so smart or that we are that dumb!!! Relisha, we're going to find you one way or another regardless of the road blocks. We love you like our own!!![/QUOTE]

Great post! I so agree, MYT IS the ringleader and AY is her right hand man!

 

[Solitaryone]

Hey hey! I remember what my other thought was last night, and it is right in line with this discussion. What if she never went back with Tatum???? They claimed he had her since 26th, but we all know that isn't true now. They had her on the 1st, the same day she was last seen with him! Maybe his sighting was before her going home! Maybe, just maybe, he has nothing to do with her disappearance at all!

Second big ole revelation- go back and read the transcript of this interview that was just done. Shamika tells the nephew she knows some things about Tatum, was he from Kenilworth. Well, of course, she should know plenty about him or else she shouldn't allow her child to be with him, right? That makes me think it is a secret she is talking about and threatening to expose, not just that he was from there. She was trying to let him know she is aware of his connection to something else, maybe her mother? (who wants to find out if Melissa is from Kenilworth or lived there???) THEN she asks how long he was with his wife. She knows this! She was friends with Tatum! She was trying to show him she was about to connect the dots for people. That is for suuuuuuure my take on it! And we can certainly do that. Thanks, Shamika!

I hear ya! And I too think there's something funky they are ALL trying to keep secret!

 

[SStarr33]

The first caller asked the nephew if he ever saw Relisha with KT and the nephew said no and then he told the third caller he only saw them together one time.

 

[SCHMAE]

The first caller asked the nephew if he ever saw Relisha with KT and the nephew said no and then he told the third caller he only saw them together one time.

Apparently this family put little value on honesty. If you raise a child that telling lies is no biggie, they will tell lies all their life and this is what these adults are doing now. If a child's life is not worth telling the truth over, nothing is.

Find RELISHA !

 

[Just K]

The first caller asked the nephew if he ever saw Relisha with KT and the nephew said no and then he told the third caller he only saw them together one time.

She asked and ATJ said he never saw Relisha with Tatum at his apartment.

 

[Cinnamon]

Good Morning, WSers!

Wow, 10 new pages since I last posted and read yesterday...y'all have been some busy bees! :smile: It touches my heart to see that so many people care about Relisha and want to help find her. Maybe today will be the day!!!

Ok, time to catch up... :coffeews:

Where is Relisha?! Praying for you, baby girl!