DC DC - Relisha Tenau Rudd, 8, SE DC, 26 Feb 2014 - #8

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  • #441
Since there's no new LE updates or news about Relisha, maybe we could go back to when this case first started, and maybe something from then will help us now. When the AA went out about Relisha, at first both KLT and RSL was listed. Why was RSL first listed with KLT? How did LE get his name? Who was with RSL March 19 at Red Roof Inn? We know one was a woman. So RSL, one woman and another man? Who are the woman and other man with RSL? Why did KLT and AKT check in at the Red Roof Inn in the first place? Why did AKT register the room in her name? Why were RSL and the other two people with KLT and AKT? What did they all talk about for an hour before RSL and the other two left? Did KLT call RSL to come back several hours later? Or had KLT and RSL planned for RSL to return?

Did RSL actually enter the room? I know it's been reported that he said KLT wouldn't let him in, and he reportedly saw AKT lying facedown on the bed in the same position LE found her. Does LE have video of RSL not entering the room when he returned? Does LE have any reason to believe RSL didn't enter the room when he returned? Where did RSL and KLT go before KLT was dropped off at the Metro?

Why didn't KLT dispose of the photo of Relisha, the cell phones, ipad, etc. from his apt. before checking into the Red Roof Inn? Why leave those items to be found by LE? Who owned the white 1976 GMC truck that was later found in Hyattsville, MD? Was that KLT's, AKT's or RSL's vehicle? Have LE ever said who this truck belonged to? The news articles I've read have not ever said who the owner of the white truck is. Why were these two other people with RSL at the Red Roof Inn the night of March 19?




http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014...for-8-year-old-girl-missing-in-southeast-d-c/

"The FBI joined the investigation into Relisha’s disappearance Thursday morning after two vehicles possibly linked to Relisha were found at a motel in Oxon Hill.

When officers arrived at the Red Roof Inn, located in the 6100 block of Oxon Hill Road, they found Andrea Tatum dead from an apparent gunshot wound inside a room and the vehicles in the parking lot.

Police believe Relisha is traveling with Kahlil Tatum, who may be armed and dangerous, either on foot or in a different vehicle. On Thursday evening, police recovered a white 1976 GMC truck with Maryland tags, believed to be in connection with Tatum, in Hyattsville."

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"Relisha was last seen in the 1900 block of Massachusetts Avenue SE.

FBI agents went to the Temple Hills home of one of the adults named in the Amber Alert around 2:30 p.m. Thursday. Law enforcement sources tell WNEW Senior Correspondant Mark Segraves agents left the apartment with a woman who is considered a witness in the case."

More at link.


This "meeting" at the Red Roof Inn has always bothered me. It's also bothered me how fast RSL was dropped as a suspect, at least publically. I hope LE is still investigating what role RSL played in all of this. Could both KLT and RSL have murdered AKT when RSL returned to the Red Roof Inn? If KLT killed AKT before RSL returned but after RSL and the two other people left, what was KLT doing in the room with AKT's body there until RSL returned at 5:40am, March 20?
 
  • #442
I questioned the validity of the lime/shovel as well. I never heard LE or other later articles mention those items but yes, in the very beginning those items were reported. I wish those that included the items in their reporting would confirm where they got that info. Trash bags could have been used to clean out storage or hide items but the shovel/lime would indicate foul play. If these items were on KTs credit card - i would consider it reliable however if it was word of mouth - not so much.

We can hope he did use lime. It does not have the affect most think it does. She could be mummified by it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lime_(material)

Why do people throw lime on dead bodies? In some sources it is explained that lime prevents decay and the spread of infection, elsewhere it's stated that lime assists with decomposition. Bastie 12:42, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
 
  • #443
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  • #444
Yes, Kimi. What I meant was, after one call, if it seemed important, shouldn't the family keep calling until someone came out to pick them up? Or shouldn't they have dropped the bathing suit bottoms off at the station?

I guess you are right - that is assuming MY EVER called in the first place!


JMO - I think the cops/FBI wouldn't want the bottoms after they had been hanging out with that bunch of people (chain of custody thing). There's no telling how many times they may have been washed, or who's DNA could have been put on them (to muddy the waters).

again, just my opinion.
 
  • #445
Someone posted on RRTF FB Group looking for the news video with MYT saying on camera "I'm sorry you got to bring her back"? before KLT was found. I remember that too, and I wonder just why would MYT apologize to KLT when asking him to return Relisha? This struck me as alarming and very disturbing at the time, and still does. Why would MYT feel the need to apologize?
 
  • #446
The neighbor in the room beside the Tatums room at the Red Roof Inn said he didn't hear arguing, but did hear a loud thud and nothing else.

Relisha wasn't with them at the Red Roof Inn.

Amber Alert wasn't put out until AFTER Andrea was found dead! Up to that point, they were looking for the Tatums to ask where Relisha was. Shamika and Melissa had told police that Relisha wasn't missing and was with the Tatums. So obviously police needed to see if that was true.

Shamika first stated Relisha was the a 'teacher in Georgia'. Belinda Wheeler stated Shamika refused to report Relisha missing because she didn't want Tatum to lose his job!

If you go back to the earliest news reports, and listen and watch the videos, forgetting all the crap they spewed from the blog radio, and focus on just those facts, we might get somewhere. Then again, we might not.

(sigh)
 
  • #447
It was a channel 4 station that I remember watching. But I can't remember the exact name of the station.
 
  • #448
Someone posted on RRTF FB Group looking for the news video with MYT saying on camera "I'm sorry you got to bring her back"? before KLT was found. I remember that too, and I wonder just why would MYT apologize to KLT when asking him to return Relisha? This struck me as alarming and very disturbing at the time, and still does. Why would MYT feel the need to apologize?

I would have to hear it in context.
 
  • #449
I want to know if Mrs. Tatum was shot somewhere in the room and then laid out on the bed, or if she was laying in the bed already and then shot? Was there an argument and murder, or "lay down on the bed, we have to do this" kind of a thing? I know that sounds sick - but I'm trying to figure out what the heck went on in that room. And if he shot her - why did he hang out there till some one came and picked him up in the morning???


Never mind - if another guest heard a thud, then she probably wasn't shot on the bed. So why did he put her there? maybe the trash bags were for HIS bloody clothes from picking her up and putting her on the bed?
 
  • #450
It was a channel 4 station that I remember watching. But I can't remember the exact name of the station.

It is NBC4.
 
  • #451
Side note:

I need a clear my brain med! Something that removes this fog so I can think clearly. I might make for a terrible witness at this point, because I can't remember anything!! Heck, when stressed, I forget even basic things. When auntie had a seizure at my house, I didn't know she had a seizure, I found her unconscious, I couldn't even remember what meds she takes, what meds she's allergic to or anything. EMS had me go sit down outside and try to get myself together. :embarrassed: But I couldn't think!

Back on topic:

At this point, my thoughts remain that at least 2 folks knew why Relisha was going with Tatum, and it was sinister means!!! I'm not convinced Shamika knew WHY he was going. My thoughts at this point are that Shamika thought "how wonderful" "once less bossy, talks too much kid for me to deal with!" "Look at him buying her clothes, taking her to Disney things, buying her a Tablet... he must be loaded! Wonder what he can do for me?" I believe she thought she was pulling the fast one on him, and taking advantage of his kindness. I am NOT convinced that the two other females were thinking the same. I think they KNEW about the hotel visits, and if they had ever listened to Relisha, would have known a child's name.

My theory might change in 5 minutes. :)
 
  • #452
Youtube is where I was watching videos from! They had NBC4, and HLN, WUSA9 and some others. I'd forgotten half of what happened in the early days.

Chief Lanier stated contractor trash bags, and other items. She refused to say shovel and lime, or what other items it could be. She only focused on the bags.
 
  • #453
One thing that did stick out to me, the school meeting was on March 11, and on March 12 is when Melissa called Tatum about the broken tablet. Now...just what WAS discusssed in that call?? You mean to tell me nothing was said about that March 11th meeting??? The one Melissa was at with Shamika???
 
  • #454
I need one of those huge desk top calendars to write things that happened on each day on it, and see what gaps there are.
 
  • #455
Someone posted on RRTF FB Group looking for the news video with MYT saying on camera "I'm sorry you got to bring her back"? before KLT was found. I remember that too, and I wonder just why would MYT apologize to KLT when asking him to return Relisha? This struck me as alarming and very disturbing at the time, and still does. Why would MYT feel the need to apologize?

Maybe, just maybe, MYT apologized because she sold Relisha to KT or KT brokered the sale. If this is the case, maybe she had assured KT that no one would report Relisha missing. But she didn't count on the school stepping up for Relisha. MOO
 
  • #456
The neighbor in the room beside the Tatums room at the Red Roof Inn said he didn't hear arguing, but did hear a loud thud and nothing else.

Relisha wasn't with them at the Red Roof Inn.

Amber Alert wasn't put out until AFTER Andrea was found dead! Up to that point, they were looking for the Tatums to ask where Relisha was. Shamika and Melissa had told police that Relisha wasn't missing and was with the Tatums. So obviously police needed to see if that was true.

Shamika first stated Relisha was the a 'teacher in Georgia'. Belinda Wheeler stated Shamika refused to report Relisha missing because she didn't want Tatum to lose his job!

If you go back to the earliest news reports, and listen and watch the videos, forgetting all the crap they spewed from the blog radio, and focus on just those facts, we might get somewhere. Then again, we might not.

(sigh)

BBM. Yes, that's right! Thanks, 2Hope4!!! I need to go edit/correct my earlier post...meant to say the hotel meeting took place within hours of the missing-person investigation being launched, not the AA. Sorry everybody...that's what I get for trying to post while at work, lol. Will correct asap...
 
  • #457
This video has a bunch of news clips and includes the one with MYT talking about &#8220;Dr. Tatum.&#8221; and Chief Lanier, talking about the &#8220;trash bags and other items&#8221;.
The young lady who is talking about this case on the vide doesn&#8217;t have all of her information correct but the news clips that she includes gives you a good quick overview of the earlier reports.
8yr old Relisha Rudd goes missing for 30 days and her family says nothing - YouTube
 
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  • #459
Have not been around much, but was sooooo hoping Relisha had been found :(
 
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