DC DC - Relisha Tenau Rudd, 8, SE DC, 26 Feb 2014 - #8

[zoomom]

So this is what I'm trying to glean.....What was the typical daily routine on a school day for the 4 kids?

1. Wake up in a single room in a shelter that used to be a hospital.
2. Go to the cafeteria by yourselves because mom is still crashed out. (pj's or school clothes?)
3. Not allowed in to the cafeteria to eat because of no adult present.
4. Go find Mr. Tatum the janitor - cuz he can get you in to eat.
5. Go back to the room. Get dressed for school. (Who all went to school besides Reliesha?)
6. Wait for Aunt or Grandma to arrive at shelter to take to school (5 days a week??) Or did mom take them sometimes??) Walking distance? By car? By Bus?
7. School is over. Wait to be picked up by mom? Aunt? Gmom? Tatum?
8. Go where???
9. Were the 2 youngest brothers enrolled in a program for littles at the school? (They keep saying they took the "kids" to "school". It all sounds very responsible at first glance.) Did they all just walk together or did all 4 actually have a place to be in the school? Why would they drag all 4 (especially in winter) if all 4 weren't enrolled? (My point: maybe Relisha was on a different schedule than the boys. (Keep 3 at home in jammies and only one is school age, for now?)
10. Which is closer to the school? The shelter, or a relatives house?

11. What was the typical weekend routine?

Even tho mom is the primary care-giver, who was really the primary care-giver????? Getting young kids to school every morning is no picnic. If you went out of your way to get up and get a relative's child or children to school on a regular basis - wouldn't you be miffed if you showed up only to find out that one of them slept over somewhere else last night, and didn't need you to take them to school??? And then what about picking them up? (OOP's, sorry! Someone already picked them up!)

After all the interviews it seems like every adult is trying to minimize the percentage of time they were with Relisha. Therefore any possible responsibility.



maybe I'm just tripping......but who was responsible for, and how were the kids getting to school? Who was REALLY in their lives for them?

 

[LaLaw2000]

FBI has the top. We have the bottom. We called the FBI to let them know we have the bottom & they haven't taken the bottom (of the bathing suit)

Caller: I would've made sure the FBI had the bottom. Something could have been in there.

MTY: it's still in the bag we found it in.


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Just popping in...........

There is, or was, a pic on SY's facebook with 3, maybe 4 little girls in 2 piece swimsuits hugging each other. Coincidence? I'll bet anything the FBI was not given the correct swimsuit top. The bottoms are probably not Relisha's either.

I trust none of these people! I hate to say it but I listened to only the first radio program and just cannot listen to any more. GB those of you who can!

MOO

 

[baltolady]

O/T But, totally relevant to Relisha and her circumstances.

The body of a small boy apparently cast off the side of a highway in Massachusetts is confirmed as that of a missing 5-year-old

He was last seen by relatives in September but wasn't reported missing until December.

Jeremiah's case has led to criminal charges against his mother and her boyfriend and calls for changes within the state's child welfare agency.


Read More at: http://foxbaltimore.com/news/featur...ng-massachusetts-boy-27325.shtml#.U1OFcvldVpZ



Rest peacefully, little Jeremiah. You are finally safe and very loved.

 

[kimi_SFC]

O/T But, totally relevant to Relisha and her circumstances.

The body of a small boy apparently cast off the side of a highway in Massachusetts is confirmed as that of a missing 5-year-old

He was last seen by relatives in September but wasn't reported missing until December.

Jeremiah's case has led to criminal charges against his mother and her boyfriend and calls for changes within the state's child welfare agency.


Read More at: http://foxbaltimore.com/news/featur...ng-massachusetts-boy-27325.shtml#.U1OFcvldVpZ



Rest peacefully, little Jeremiah. You are finally safe and very loved.

Jeremiah has been missing since 2013. What a heartbreaking outcome! :tears:

Thank you baltolady, for bringing light to his case on Relisha's thread :hug:

I am raying: we #FindRelisha alive and well.

Jeremiah does have a thread here at Websleuths.

Here's the link:

Found Deceased MA - Jeremiah Oliver, 5, Worcester, 14 September 2013 - **arrests** - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

Fly High, Forever Angel. Rest In Peace, Little One!

:rose:


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[bakerlady]

Question:
The call with IR. Clearly the caller said it was a confidential call, and nothing stated would be shared. But it was shared. It was recorded. Is that illegal? Couldn't someone get in trouble over that?

I think I'm stepping back from calling into the show. IMO, this could become a legal issue. Maybe even obstruction of justice or interferring in an investigation. I don't want to be a part of that!

Oh wow. I didn't catch any of IR interview. I was not aware he asked for it to be confidential.

The thing about IR is he is clearly not a part of this fiasco at all. He hasn't seen the kids in months if not years! So I too think this is a terrible thing to do to this man and although it may be legal it is very morally wrong.

Let the man mourn. He clearly wants nothing to do with these Young/Turner losers and I don't blame him.

Now if it was AY, MYT, SY, or AW I think they would be the only ones I wouldn't care about being recorded. Them and only them.

This radio show is a hot mess. KW's heart is in the right place but he needs some guidance before he gets himself in trouble. I don't think we are going to get anyone to say anything of importance.

I DO HOPE the authorities will listen and if applicable, they will arrest someone for obstruction of justice or false statements or whatever charge applies to these A**holes.

Happy Easter Everyone!!! Happy Easter Relisha!!! We all love you Sweet Pea!!!

 

[mysteriew]

So this is what I'm trying to glean.....What was the typical daily routine on a school day for the 4 kids?

1. Wake up in a single room in a shelter that used to be a hospital.
2. Go to the cafeteria by yourselves because mom is still crashed out. (pj's or school clothes?)
3. Not allowed in to the cafeteria to eat because of no adult present.
4. Go find Mr. Tatum the janitor - cuz he can get you in to eat.
5. Go back to the room. Get dressed for school. (Who all went to school besides Reliesha?)
6. Wait for Aunt or Grandma to arrive at shelter to take to school (5 days a week??) Or did mom take them sometimes??) Walking distance? By car? By Bus?
7. School is over. Wait to be picked up by mom? Aunt? Gmom? Tatum?
8. Go where???
9. Were the 2 youngest brothers enrolled in a program for littles at the school? (They keep saying they took the "kids" to "school". It all sounds very responsible at first glance.) Did they all just walk together or did all 4 actually have a place to be in the school? Why would they drag all 4 (especially in winter) if all 4 weren't enrolled? (My point: maybe Relisha was on a different schedule than the boys. (Keep 3 at home in jammies and only one is school age, for now?)
10. Which is closer to the school? The shelter, or a relatives house?

11. What was the typical weekend routine?

Even tho mom is the primary care-giver, who was really the primary care-giver????? Getting young kids to school every morning is no picnic. If you went out of your way to get up and get a relative's child or children to school on a regular basis - wouldn't you be miffed if you showed up only to find out that one of them slept over somewhere else last night, and didn't need you to take them to school??? And then what about picking them up? (OOP's, sorry! Someone already picked them up!)

After all the interviews it seems like every adult is trying to minimize the percentage of time they were with Relisha. Therefore any possible responsibility.



maybe I'm just tripping......but who was responsible for, and how were the kids getting to school? Who was REALLY in their lives for them?

I remember when my kids were 8. Needed to be supervised when getting ready for school. Constant prodding to get a move on so they could be ready on time. Think of the determination of Relisha, she got herself up and got herself ready.

 

[SCHMAE]

Hi SCHMAE, sorry to tell you what you probably know, but no, no one did. None of them ever has, and they never will.

I think they all know what happened to Relisha!

I know. This is reminding me of Mark and Elaine Redwine on the Dr Phil show, right? Dylan's name came up a few times but most of the two full hours of the show was devoted to boosting ego and deflection. Finding Dylan was not part of the show .

 

[bakerlady]

In the photo MYT has as her profile pic it shows 3 kids in school uniforms and the youngest one drinking a sippy cup, same kid who had the hernia, looks to be almost 3 yrs old to me.

What confuses me is this. I think the two darker complexion kids are AW's. And I know that RR, and IR jr are IR's kids. But IR jr just started Kindergarten last year IIRC from the FB photos. There is one captioned 'first day of school' and he is tiny and oh so cute I just want to squeeze him.

It seems to me like the oldest boy is AW's kid. So did SY have RR, then AW's boy, then IR jr, then AW's other boy, the baby with the hernia?

It could be that IR is just a peanut and his younger brother is taller than him? Happens all the time but I am still suspect.

I don't know if this is relevant at all...just thinking out loud.

But I do know I will be calling in on the next show if I can. I can't talk about this stuff in front of my kids so I will have to lock myself in the bathroom or something, I dunno. I just want some questions answered about AW. No one has said anything about him this whole time but he calls himself the 'father'. Forget IR why didn't KW record a conversation with AW?!?!?!

It is driving me nuts. Please please please ask about him more. I have a feeling he knows everything!

 

[EmiLove832]

In the photo MYT has as her profile pic it shows 3 kids in school uniforms and the youngest one drinking a sippy cup, same kid who had the hernia, looks to be almost 3 yrs old to me.

What confuses me is this. I think the two darker complexion kids are AW's. And I know that RR, and IR jr are IR's kids. But IR jr just started Kindergarten last year IIRC from the FB photos. There is one captioned 'first day of school' and he is tiny and oh so cute I just want to squeeze him.

It seems to me like the oldest boy is AW's kid. So did SY have RR, then AW's boy, then IR jr, then AW's other boy, the baby with the hernia?

It could be that IR is just a peanut and his younger brother is taller than him? Happens all the time but I am still suspect.

I don't know if this is relevant at all...just thinking out loud.

But I do know I will be calling in on the next show if I can. I can't talk about this stuff in front of my kids so I will have to lock myself in the bathroom or something, I dunno. I just want some questions answered about AW. No one has said anything about him this whole time but he calls himself the 'father'. Forget IR why didn't KW record a conversation with AW?!?!?!

It is driving me nuts. Please please please ask about him more. I have a feeling he knows everything!

I can't tell you where or when I heard/read this, but I recall reading that IR Jr. was smaller than the oldest of SY and AW's boys even though IR Jr. is older.

I would love to hear about their routine but I'm sure the answer will be totally BS.


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[Peace4children]

I am looking at pictures of Relisha....this little girl's eyes have more depth,more soul,more intensity,more wit and determination than any of her knucklehead family members united....
Happy Easter little Relisha We are here for U

 

[Just K]

AW, has shown his temper, impatience and general lack of self control and parenting skills yet it is still VERY possible that he was left entirely in the dark about the comings and goings of Relisha. He knew she wasn't in the shelter but he may not have been clear on what relative, friend of the family or any other person had Relisha...

IMO, if he even bothered to ask SY, as to Relisha's whereabouts, he just took her word for wherever she believed Relisha to be and whoever she said Relisha was with.

About his mother, BW, spoon feeding him. I have to disagree. IMO, each person in the room with him was listening to the calls. As happens in many families or groups of friends, everyone has an opinion. In this group many of them will chime in, sometimes all at once, with their response or reaction. I believe both BW and AW when they say he didn't know anything and that he often had to ask SY where a gift had come from, who had the kids, whatever. He knew what SY told him, IMO.

The majority of the Young/Turner family have little to nothing good to say about AW. In some circles he would be referred to as "hard-headed," a "horse's " or any of a number of titles that mean stubborn, overbearing, reactive and rageful.

But, in his defense, we could hear him when he pleaded, "Mom,...." when his mom kept talking/reminding in the background. He is a tough nut to crack but he is much more straight forward than ANY of the Young side of the family. His answers, pleas and demands are unfiltered. When he hesitates I can almost see him trying to figure out if he was hoodwinked by SY and her family. Almost as if a light bulb is going off.

Finally, the first time I heard AW, on the news, his plea to find "his daughter" seemed to be genuinely emotional and the only person other than GT (to date) to lament and plead that he just wants his daughter home.

AY, MYT & SY, even Uncle D, and GT have not pleaded for help finding their little girl.

Unless AW actually had something to do with some accident with Relisha and his guilt has overtaken his emotions and self control, IMO, he and maybe GT truly are the only insiders who are both truly concerned and miffed.

 

[Bravo]

Thanks for all the updates folks :seeya: Seems we are no closer to an answer. So sad the Family is just muddying the waters :banghead: Where are u little Princess lease:

 

[2Hope4]

IR was in their lives. There's mention in MSM that he tried for visitation and full custody. Supposively he picked up IR,Jr from Ashley's but Relisha wasn't there. He stated his lawyer told him to stay outta media, and away from the Turner/Young group.

Tony...he was interviewed as well. From his language, and statements from many, he is abusive. His mother was in the background on one call telling him what to say, and said to him to quit repeating what others have told him, and let Shamika speak for herself. I don't think he knows much more than what he's been told. He did know Tatum, but what he knew about Relisha going with Tatum, I don't think we'll hear more about. In the beginning, he stated Relisha was with Tatum. Asked Tatum to return her. Said he had always brought Relisha back.

Wish we could have heard more from the woman that called in last night. She knew Melissa, and Melissa knew her. She might have more insight to the relationship between Shamika and Melissa, and more about Tatum. The woman lived at the shelter. Should have let her continue talking last night. Because if she called back, she wasn't brought back on to talk. Might not hear from her again.

The bathing suit bottoms still bothers me greatly. Whether or not they were Relisha, I don't know. Whether they were recently purchased, I don't know. BUT, they could be tested. And to say they were in the bag they were bought back in, well, how did you get the top to the FBI and not the bottoms then? IMO, either they are new bottoms, or have been laundered.

Oh Relisha, wish we could find you!!

 

[Just K]

If Relisha is still alive, I suspect that/those trip/trips to Richmond was/were to get Relisha to a safe place away from all of this mess. From there, who knows what may have happened. And, if that did happen, I strongly suspect that none of the DC family knows where Relisha ended up.

She might turn up at some school somewhere away from DC and with a name like Alicia. Hopefully she is not with someone from Gilpin Court....Richmond's version of Trinidad/NE DC.

 

[2Hope4]

http://thepeopleschampion.me/depth-...s-family-implodes-d-c-based-blogtalk-radio-2/

 

[tlcya]

Legal and moral are two things. Even if the recorded conversation between QB and IR was legally made, taping and then airing it without his permission is a big issue for me.

no one here and no one on the "task force" is going to solve this case. The best that can come of all these fools running their mouths on the blogtalk show is that they are on record making contradictory statements and one or some of those contradictions could be used by LE to impeach someone or apply pressure.

IR is not involved in the kids' lives, I believe we have heard that from both ends of things, so for me, what was done is a moral issue. And even if somehow it were to turn out that IR was in some way involved (you know sort of like monkeys could fly out of my arse but its not likely) anything from that recorded phone call that was played is poisoned and cannot be used.

 

[AndieS]

I believe it became an illegal move when Warren played the recording for the public.

Also, I am concerned that the Warren show may be doing a disservice to the work that the police are doing because you have wanna-be investigators asking these family members questions over and over again which may be tainting potential testimony which may hinder questions that that LE has done or has yet to do. It is normal for people to forget things which is why witness testimony can be very dicey. Sometimes people get confused and they misrepresent things not because they are intentionally lying but because they "think" they recall things a certain way. Having novices asking the same questions over and over in an untrained way is definitely adding to the confusion. These family members should not be talking to the media or a radio show at all. They apparently haven't 'lawyered up' but they need to because if they had they would have been told not to speak to anyone.

 

[AndieS]

Does anyone know if Irving Rudd is a resident of DC or MD?

 

[kimi_SFC]

Good morning Everyone!

I wanted to take a moment to wish everyone here a beautiful day, filled with joy and Easter Blessings. Regardless of your belief system, may you enjoy this day with those you love, cherish, and RELISH! :heartbeat:

My daughters were shopping online with me, and picked out this basket for Easter for Relisha

They said, "Relisha would LOVE this one, because Princess Tiana is our favorite - she looks like US."

I cried. Real tears. :tears: They are singing again this morning and prayers will be sent up once more for the precious little girl who has become a part of our world. raying:

This message is sent to all of you, with respect for your dedication to Relisha's plight, love for everything Websleuths, and faith that Relisha will be found.

#FindRelisha

:heartluv:


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[Bravo]

Thank You kimi. Just lovely. Blessings to you and yours. I picture Relisha in a pretty Easter dress looking over the last of her treats in that lovely basket.