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Unless Fox apologizes they can always say they made a business decision to settle the case. That is always what a company says when it settles a case.
DE - Dominion Voting Systems vs. Fox News, $1.6B Defamation Trial for 2020 election lies, 17 Apr 2023 *Settled $787m* + add’l trials
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I would hope that if Dominion decides to settle, it will require a public acknowledgement of guilt by Fox, including retractions from all of their talking heads who continued to report false allegations of election fraud.
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Here's a closer look at those 20 specific broadcasts and tweets of alleged defamation.
Broadcast 1: Bartiromo interviews Powell
The broadcast: "Sunday Morning Futures" on November 8, 2020.What they alleged: Election fraud and algorithm flips.
Key false quote: "Sidney, we talked about the Dominion software. I know that there were voting irregularities. Tell me about that," Bartiromo said.
"That's to put it mildly. The computer glitches could not and should not have happened at all," Powell said. "That is where the fraud took place where they were flipping votes in the computer system or adding votes that did not exist."
Broadcast 2: Dobbs interviews Giuliani
The broadcast: "Lou Dobbs Tonight" on November 12, 2020.
What they alleged: Election fraud and Venezuela ties.
Key false quote: "So, we're using a foreign company that is owned by Venezuelans who are close to -- were close to (Hugo) Chávez, are now close to (Nicolás) Maduro, have a history. They were founded as a company to fix elections, they have a terrible record, and they are extremely hackable," Giuliani said.
Broadcast 3: Dobbs interviews Powell
The broadcast: "Lou Dobbs Tonight" on November 13, 2020.
What they alleged: Election fraud, algorithm flips, Venezuela ties, kickbacks.
Key false quote: "Let's start with Dominion, a straight out disavowal of any claim of fraud against the company, its software or machines. Your reaction," Dobbs asked.
"Well, I can hardly wait to put forth all the evidence we have collected on Dominion, starting with the fact it was created to produce altered voting results in Venezuela for Hugo Chavez and then shipped internationally to manipulate votes for purchase in other countries, including this one," Powell said.
"We also need to look at and we're beginning to collect evidence on the financial interests of some of the governors and Secretaries of State who actually bought into the Dominion Systems ... to line their own pockets by getting a voting machine in that would either make sure their election was successful or they got money for their family from it," she added.
"Well, that's straightforward," Dobbs said. "You're going to have to be quick to go through and to produce that investigation and the results of it."
Broadcast 4: Tweet from Dobbs
The broadcast: Quote-tweet by Dobbs of Giuliani tweet on November 14, 2020.What they alleged: Election fraud, algorithm flips, Venezuela ties.
Key false quote: "Did you know a foreign company, DOMINION, was counting our vote in Michigan, Arizona and Georgia and other states," Giuliani wrote.
"Read all about Dominion and Smartmatic voting companies and you'll soon understand how pervasive this Democrat electoral fraud is, and why there's no way in the world the 2020 Presidential election was either free or fair. #MAGA @realDonaldTrump #AmericaFirst #Dobbs," Dobbs wrote.
Broadcast 5: Jeanine Pirro interviews Powell
The broadcast: "Justice with Judge Jeanine" on November 14, 2020.
What they alleged: Election fraud, algorithm flips, Venezuela ties.
Key false quote: "It was created for the express purpose of being able to alter votes and secure the reelection of Hugo Chavez and then Maduro. They've used it in Argentina," Powell said. "There is an American citizen who has exported it to other countries and it is one huge, huge criminal conspiracy that should be investigated by military intelligence for its national security implications."
"Yes. And hopefully the Department of Justice, but who knows anymore," Pirro said.
Broadcast 6: Bartiromo previews interview with Powell and Giuliani
The broadcast: "Fox & Friends Sunday" on November 15, 2020.What they alleged: Election fraud, algorithm flips, Venezuela ties, kickbacks.
Key false quote: "Sidney Powell is also talking about potential kickbacks that government officials, who were asked to use Dominion, actually also enjoyed benefits to their families," Bartiromo said. "We're going to talk about that coming up as well."
Broadcast 7: Bartiromo interviews Giuliani and Powell
The broadcast: "Sunday Morning Futures" on November 15, 2020.
What they alleged: Election fraud, algorithm flips, Venezuela ties, kickbacks.
Key false quote: "We have sworn witness testimony of why the software was designed. It was designed to rig elections ... We have so much evidence, I feel like it's coming in through a fire hose," Powell said.
"Wow," Bartiromo said.
Broadcast 8: Dobbs interviews Powell
The broadcast: "Lou Dobbs Tonight" on November 16, 2020.
What they alleged: Election fraud, algorithm flips, Venezuela ties.
Key false quote: "I've just gotten some stunning evidence from a firsthand witness, a high-ranking military officer, who was present when Smartmatic was designed in a way that -- and I'm going to just read to you some of these statements, if you don't mind, so I get them exactly right," Powell said.
"Sure," Dobbs said.
Powell continued, "From the affidavit, (Smartmatic was) 'designed in a way that the system could change the vote of each voter without being detected.'"
Powell also incorrectly claimed that Smartmatic owns Dominion.
Broadcast 9: Dobbs interviews Giuliani
The broadcast: "Lou Dobbs Tonight" on November 18, 2020.What they alleged: Election fraud, algorithm flips, Venezuela ties.
Key false quote: "But I mean just the mere fact that we have a foreign country, we had this in a foreign country, done by friends of an enemy of the United States, Maduro, is outrageous and has to stop immediately," Giuliani said.
"It's outrageous," Dobbs said.
Broadcast 10: Dobbs interviews Powell
The broadcast: "Lou Dobbs Tonight" on November 19, 2020.What they alleged: Election fraud, algorithm flips, Venezuela ties.
Key false quote: "Let me put it this way, there are thousands of people in federal prisons on far less evidence of criminal conduct than we have already against the Smartmatic and Dominion Systems companies," Powell said.
Broadcast 11: Pirro monologue
The broadcast: "Justice with Judge Jeanine" on November 21, 2020.What they alleged: Election fraud, algorithm flips, Venezuela ties.
Key false quote: "The President's lawyers alleging a company called Dominion, which they say started in Venezuela with Cuban money, and with the assistance of Smartmatic software, a backdoor is capable of flipping votes," Pirro said.
Broadcast 12: Dobbs interviews Powell
The broadcast: "Lou Dobbs Tonight" on November 24, 2020.
What they alleged: Election fraud, algorithm flips, Venezuela ties.
Key false quote: "We are just continuing to be inundated by evidence of all the frauds here and every manner and means of fraud you could possibly think of," Powell said.
"I think many Americans have given no thought to electoral fraud that would be perpetrated through electronic voting; that is, these machines, these electronic voting companies, including Dominion, prominently Dominion, at least in the suspicions of a lot of Americans," Dobbs said.
Broadcast 13: Dobbs interview with Powell
The broadcast: "Lou Dobbs Tonight" on November 30, 2020.
What they alleged: Election fraud, algorithm flips, kickbacks.
Key false quote: "Different states shaved different amounts of votes, or the system was set up to shave and flip different votes in different states," Powell said. "Some people were targeted as individual candidates. It's really the most massive and historical egregious fraud the world has ever seen."
Broadcast 14: Sean Hannity interviews Powell
The broadcast: "Hannity" on November 30, 2020.
What they alleged: Election fraud and algorithm flips.
Key false quote: "The machine ran an algorithm that shaved votes from Trump and awarded them to Biden," Powell said. "They used the machines to trash large batches of votes that should have been awarded to President Trump. And they used a machine to inject and add massive quantities of votes for Mr. Biden."
Broadcast 15: Dobbs interviews Phil Waldron
The broadcast: "Lou Dobbs Tonight" on December 4, 2020.What they alleged: Election fraud and algorithm flips.
Key false quote: "Dominion Voting Systems, you have described it with algorithms which were designed to be inaccurate rather than to be a secure system," Dobbs said.
"Give us your sense of who is driving all of this," Dobbs asked Phil Waldron, a Trump supporter who worked with Powell and others to spread conspiracy theories about the 2020 election.
Broadcast 16: Tweet from Dobbs
The broadcast: Dobbs tweet with embedded document on December 10, 2020.What they alleged: Election fraud and algorithm flips.
Key false quote: "The 2020 Election is a cyber Pearl Harbor," Dobbs wrote, embedding a document.
"We have technical presentations that prove there is an embedded controller in every Dominion machine, that allows an election supervisor to move votes from one candidate to another," the document stated.
Broadcast 17: Dobbs interviews Powell
The broadcast: "Lou Dobbs Tonight" on December 10, 2020.
What they alleged: Election fraud, algorithm flips, Venezuela ties.
Key false quote: "Let me make you an offer, very straightforwardly," Dobbs said. "We will gladly put forward your evidence that supports your claim that this was a Cyber Pearl Harbor. We have tremendous evidence already ... of fraud in this election, but I will be glad to put forward on this broadcast whatever evidence you have, and we'll be glad to do it immediately."
Broadcast 18: Tweet from Dobbs
The broadcast: Dobbs tweet with embedded video of Powell interview on December 10, 2020.
What they alleged: Election fraud.
Key false quote: "Cyber Pearl Harbor: @SidneyPowell1 reveals groundbreaking new evidence indicating our Presidential election came under massive cyber-attack orchestrated with the help of Dominion, Smartmatic, and foreign adversaries. #MAGA #AmericaFirst #Dobbs," Dobbs wrote.
Broadcast 19: Fox interviews Giuliani
The broadcast: "Fox & Friends" with hosts Will Cain, Pete Hegseth and Rachel Campos-Duffy on December 12, 2020.What they alleged: Election fraud.
Key false quote: "We have a machine, the Dominion machine, that's as filled with holes as Swiss cheese and was developed to steal elections, and being used in the states that are involved," Giuliani said.
Broadcast 20: Tucker Carlson interviews Mike Lindell
The broadcast: "Tucker Carlson Tonight" on January 26, 2021.What they alleged: Election fraud.
Key false quote: "Every outlet in the country, they go, 'Mike Lindell, there's no evidence, and he's making fraudulent statements.' No. I have the evidence. I dare people to put it on. I dare Dominion to sue me because then it will get out faster. So, this is -- you know, they don't -- they don't want to talk about it," Lindell said.
"No, they don't," Carlson said.
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I'm not a lawyer, but if Fox offers them exactly what they are asking for, then Dominion might have no choice but to drop the suit. What further reason could be given for them to pursue action?
Do we have a lawyer onboard?
I don't want them to settle because this case needs to set a precedent or news agencies will have free reign to spread whatever malicious lies they wish.
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No matter how this turns out, there are millions of people who still believe Trump really won the election, including my dear husband- we recently had a discussion that went something like this: me: 60 judges (many appointed by Trump) threw the case out of court due to lack of evidence for fraud-
him: that's because the judges didn't allow the evidence to be presented.
Now, tell me how you can argue with that twisted logic? there is no way.
him: that's because the judges didn't allow the evidence to be presented.
Now, tell me how you can argue with that twisted logic? there is no way.
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Fox could likely survive a nine-figure loss to Dominion, analysts say
The cable TV giant is well positioned to handle even a hefty payout should it lose at trial, though some on Wall Street expect a hit to its stock price.
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With more than $4 billion in cash on its balance sheet as of the end of 2022, Fox could probably cover even the maximum amount that Dominion is seeking without having to sell any of its existing assets to do so. In its most recent quarterly earnings report, Fox said it did not expect the “ultimate resolution” of any claims from the suit to have a “material adverse effect” on its business.
Wall Street analysts say the publicly traded company’s stock is likely to take a hit as a result of the suit.
Bank of America Securities estimated in a March 28 note that for every $500 million in damages, shares of Fox Corporation would lose about $1 per share. The company’s stock, which was trading at $33.62 late Monday morning, has fallen by more than 10% since Dominion filed its lawsuit in March 2021, a period in which the Dow Jones Industrial Average rose more than 2%.
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Fox News filed a motion late Sunday evening asking the judge to reconsider restrictions that he had placed on its case that would have barred Fox from using evidence that other parties, including former President Donald Trump, were making the same claims about Dominion that the network aired in its defense.
In its lawsuit, Dominion originally had asked for $1.6 billion in damages. In its motion filed Sunday night, Fox said Dominion had knocked off more than half a billion dollars from that figure.
The motion referred to an email Dominion lawyer Brian Farnon sent to Fox's legal team on Friday afternoon. "Dominion will not be presenting its claim for lost profits damages to the jury, given that it is duplicative of the lost enterprise value damages," Farnon said.
Taken literally, the email suggests a honing of the case for the jury's consideration. It also served potentially as a message to Fox that Dominion might be receptive to negotiation talks at the eleventh hour.
Dominion struck back against that notion later Monday morning.
In a statement released through a spokesperson, Dominion said, "The damages claim remains. As Fox well knows, our damages exceed $1.6 billion."
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Fox says Dominion knocked millions off damages claim
Dominion disputed Fox's characterization, saying it has not reduced its $1.6 billion claim. The start of the defamation trial was delayed to Tuesday, fueling settlement speculation.
www.nbcnews.com
Fox News is also facing a $2.7 billion lawsuit from voting company Smartmatic in a New York court.
Last week, they settled a smaller suit brought by a Venezuelan businessman who was identified as a key player in the bogus stolen election claims.
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Is Trump’s keyboard stuck on all caps again?
Trump posted at 2:39 AM on Truth Social:
“IF FOX WOULD FINALLY ADMIT THAT THERE WAS LARGE SCALE CHEATING & IRREGULARITIES IN THE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, WHICH WOULD BE A GOOD THING FOR THEM, & FOR AMERICA, THE CASE AGAINST THEM, WHICH SHOULD NOT HAVE EXISTED AT ALL, WOULD BE GREATLY WEAKENED. BACK UP THOSE PATRIOTS AT FOX INSTEAD OF THROWING THEM UNDER THE BUS – & THEY ARE RIGHT! THERE IS SOOO MUCH PROOF, LIKE MASS BALLOT STUFFING CAUGHT ON GOVERNMENT CAMERAS, FBI COLLUDING WITH TWITTER & FACEBOOK, STATE LEGISLATURES NOT USED, ETC.”
Trump Calls On Fox News to ‘FINALLY ADMIT’ False Claims of a Stolen 2020 Election in 2:30AM Social Media Post
Trump called on Fox News to "admit" the 2020 election was effectively stolen from him and that doing so "would be a good thing for them & for America."www.mediaite.com
Trump Tells Fox: Just Repeat Election Lies to Win Legal Case
“BACK UP THOSE PATRIOTS AT FOX INSTEAD OF THROWING THEM UNDER THE BUS.”www.thedailybeast.com
Trump is still raging and hasn’t fixed that caps lock key!!
Fox News throws Trump under the bus
As some speculate that an out-of-court settlement is in the cards, Fox News' attorneys are trying a new tactic to defend against a defamation suit.
www.newsweek.com
"FOX NEWS IS IN BIG TROUBLE IF THEY DO NOT EXPOSE THE TRUTH ON CHEATING IN THE 2020 ELECTION," he added in a second post. "THEY SHOULD DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR AMERICA. WHEN RUPERT MURDOCH SAYS THAT THERE WAS NO CHEATING IN LIGHT OF THE MASSIVE PROOF THAT WAS THERE, IT IS RIDICULOUS AND VERY HARMFUL TO THE FOX CASE. PERHAPS HE SHOULD SAY THAT 'HE JUST DIDN'T KNOW,' BUT THAT IS HARD TO BELIEVE."
"RUPERT, JUST TELL THE TRUTH AND GOOD THINGS WILL HAPPEN," he concluded. "THE ELECTION OF 2020 WAS RIGGED AND STOLLEN...YOU KNOW IT, & SO DOES EVERYONE ELSE!"
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This is great, thanks for posting!
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Ex-Fox News host urges Dominion not to settle: "About to prove something"
Speculation grew Monday that Fox could try to settle the defamation suit by Dominion Voting Systems over remarks made on the network about the 2020 election.
www.newsweek.com
Former Fox News Host Gretchen Carlson urged Dominion Voting Systems against settling their defamation lawsuit against the network.
Carlson, a longtime Fox News employee who previously sued and has voiced opposition to her former network, wrote on Twitter on Sunday night that Dominion should refuse any settlement and bring the case to trial.
"PLEASE Dominion --- Do not settle with Fox! You're about to prove something very big," Carlson tweeted.
Carlson did not specify what exactly Dominion would "prove" in the lawsuit. In a follow-up tweet, she said a nondisclosure agreement would prevent her from saying whether she was ever asked to make things up while working at Fox News.
"Here's my take on Fox-Dominion case-(as I'm sending telepathic messages to Dominion to not settle!) I can talk about the current case-but I can't then answer next logical question (b/c of my NDA)-'Did Fox ever ask you to make up s*** when you were there?' Therein lies the problem," she wrote.
Carlson in 2016 filed a lawsuit against former Fox News CEO Roger Ailesclaiming sexual harassment, prompting others to also come forward with their own allegations. She ultimately settled that lawsuit, which was depicted in the film Bombshell, for $20 million and has since become an advocate against sexual harassment.
In a 2019 interview with BuzzFeed News, Carlson alleged that she was told to take positions she did not always agree with at Fox News.
"And with regard to Fox News, listen, we all have producers in the morning who set the agenda, and there are many times that you don't agree with what you're going to be saying that particular day," she said. "And you pick your battles."
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Dominion has also asked for punitive damages. The difficult part of the suit seems to be that Dominion will need to prove "actual malice" on the part of Fox. MOO
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Fox will keep you posted!
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Fox says Dominion knocked millions off damages claim
Dominion disputed Fox's characterization, saying it has not reduced its $1.6 billion claim. The start of the defamation trial was delayed to Tuesday, fueling settlement speculation.
Fox News is also facing a $2.7 billion lawsuit from voting company Smartmatic in a New York court.
Last week, they settled a smaller suit brought by a Venezuelan businessman who was identified as a key player in the bogus stolen election claims.
NY - Smartmatic v. Rudy Guiliani, Sidney Powell, Fox News & hosts Jeanine Pirro, Maria Bartiromo & Lou Dobbs
which won't go to trial until at least fall of 2024.
and this case:
Status Conference Hearing (@ 10am ET) - DC - U.S. Dominion, Inc. vs Sidney Powell, Rudolph W. Guiliani, My Pillow, Inc. / Defendants/Counter & third Party plaintiffs vs. Smartmatic USA Corp. Civil Action #1:21-cv-00040 (CJN) U.S District Court for DC. U.S. District Judge Carl J. Nichols
There is a status conference hearing for that on 7/11/23 @ 10am.
@JerseyGirl - are you going to give separate threads for these cases?
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NY - Smartmatic v. Rudy Guiliani, Sidney Powell, Fox News & hosts Jeanine Pirro, Maria Bartiromo & Lou Dobbs
which won't go to trial until at least fall of 2024.
and this case:
Status Conference Hearing (@ 10am ET) - DC - U.S. Dominion, Inc. vs Sidney Powell, Rudolph W. Guiliani, My Pillow, Inc. / Defendants/Counter & third Party plaintiffs vs. Smartmatic USA Corp. Civil Action #1:21-cv-00040 (CJN) U.S District Court for DC. U.S. District Judge Carl J. Nichols
There is a status conference hearing for that on 7/11/23 @ 10am.
@JerseyGirl - are you going to give separate threads for these cases?
You’re killing me girl!
I’ll set up threads as we move closer to those trials and news starts to pick up.
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You’re killing me girl!
I’ll set up threads as we move closer to those trials and news starts to pick up.
Sorry - but I can not help that these lawsuits are going on !!
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If Fox is allowed to settle without any explanation or apology for their actions, there is nothing to stop them from continuing on with their lies of all kinds since all they do is lie every day about all kinds of things.- I read they have enough money to pay 1.6 billion without really hurting their bottom line.
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Fox paid for a full-page advertisement in The New York Times on Monday headlined “Trusted Now. More Than Ever.”
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Fox, Dominion defamation lawsuit: Judge says trial to begin Tuesday, April 18
The judge made no mention of a possible settlement, only saying court will resume Tuesday, April 18 at 9 a.m.
www.wfaa.com
The judge made no mention of a possible settlement, only saying court will resume Tuesday, April 18 at 9 a.m.
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