Deborah Bradley & Jeremy Irwin - Dr. Phil Interview - 3 February 2012 #2

[melissasmom]

Or, it could have happened earlier and everything DB did that night was staged....we don't really know...

LE has not been very forthcoming on information in this case, but, I would think that if Lisa had not been accounted for up to the time Jeremy went to work, they would have mentioned that. Like in Sky Metalwala's case, LE wanted to know if anyone had seen him prior to the date he went missing, and they announced that.
And you REALLY think that if Lisa had been deceased earlier in the day, DB would have been hanging out on the front stoop with the neighbor while the kids played/watched movies inside the house? I mean, really? She is one darn cool customer if she could have pulled that off.

 

[Whisperer]

DB has come a long way. She now owns the house according to her dialogue. It is my house, my barn, my keys to the house. I noticed Dr. phil never mentions they are not married (normally he would). This must have been part of the deal.

I consider this a total attempt at rehabilitating two parents who were getting beat up on the world wide web.

She has taken ownership for all the material things but refuses ownership on her drinking and behavior. She has all the signs of an addicted co dependent personality.

 

[melissasmom]

Me too, me too ~ and very firmly too so move over

Is there room on that fence for me? I'm not that big

 

[norest4thewicked]

But I will reiterate, why was there no evidence of a dead body being in the car?

Perhaps because the tiny body was wrapped in blankets and/or towels and then layered in plastic bags. Then, put into a plastic box of some type and that wrapped in plastic bags and sealed, then finally, that package wrapped in plastic, sealed, and put in another plastic box. Then that box to be sealed with the tape from the dispenser that was taken from the house. Sort of like a "nesting dolls" situation. This "package" could have been transported for the short distance to the river and not be detected by the dogs. This is a simple scenario, and what I believe happened. I don't necessarily know that Lisa was taken in the family car, but I'm sure in my heart about the rest...

 

[Dr.Fessel]

But I will reiterate, why was there no evidence of a dead body being in the car?

Wrapped up, or bagged up.

 

[Whisperer]

LE has not been very forthcoming on information in this case, but, I would think that if Lisa had not been accounted for up to the time Jeremy went to work, they would have mentioned that. Like in Sky Metalwala's case, LE wanted to know if anyone had seen him prior to the date he went missing, and they announced that.
And you REALLY think that if Lisa had been deceased earlier in the day, DB would have been hanging out on the front stoop with the neighbor while the kids played/watched movies inside the house? I mean, really? She is one darn cool customer if she could have pulled that off.

You bet I do. She is slick. I will add a manipulator along with that. For the record, I don't buy they were sitting outside on a cement stoop for 4/5 hours.

Have you heard anyone say they saw Lisa. I heard (somehow) SB say her 4 yr old saw her, perhaps sleeping in her crib. How many hours does this child sleep anyway. I also don't think she was in P.J.s either but that is my opinion.

 

[melissasmom]

DB has come a long way. She now owns the house according to her dialogue. It is my house, my barn, my keys to the house. I noticed Dr. phil never mentions they are not married (normally he would). This must have been part of the deal.

I consider this a total attempt at rehabilitating two parents who were getting beat up on the world wide web.

She has taken ownership for all the material things but refuses ownership on her drinking and behavior. She has all the signs of an co dependent personality.

What does them not being married to each other have to do with anything? Why would Dr. Phil need to mention that? Who cares?
She lives there with Jeremy and the children, so yes I would call it her house too.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I've thought about this myself. If you were close to a situation and you knew things that bothered you - those things that point to "something's just not right" - and you had a grave concern about the honesty of the people you were close to, and whether they may have done something very bad, BUT you had no proof that could implicate them....

how long would you be able to process this "hinky" information you are faced with - maybe even first-hand! - without you wanting to talk to someone that could get it out. What are the police going to do if you walk in and share the behavior that is concerning you? the behavior you find suspicious? the family comments that reflect doubt on a certain member of the family?

...the answer is the police are going to do nothing. And still, you have this increasing mound of information that eats at you....like you're privy to an unacceptable situation, or a crime covered....or, just flat wrongness.

I'd find someone to talk to. I find someone who would speak for me.

While I absolutely agree that unnamed "anonymous" sources' information should be taken with a grain of salt, I also believe it's a fool's choice to completely dismiss them. There's some applicable box they most likely need to go in. Maybe "additional information for future reference".

As far as whether Debbie is being painted in good light or bad light, my heart doesn't leave much room for compassion when a person appears to do everything possible to rouse suspicion. Even severe OCD can't explain some of this.

Just my opinion.

Thanks for coming here and sharing your info and thoughts. Personally I keep my feelings about Debbie in a separate box because it's too distracting from the evidence in this case.

I love you and "The Hinky Meter". Keep it coming.

 

[highflyer]

I think you're assuming "the family" to be the Bradley Irwin family. I didn't say that. It's clear which family this source is close to.

I'm a little slow on the pickup, and it's not clear to me. A little help please.

 

[Coldpizza]

I believe JI is zombified because either that is just his personality, or he has an investment in the coverup and DB told him that she would take care of everything...just to follow her lead and let her do the talking. I don't really know which of these cases is true...but I strongly suspect that one of them is...

Quite frankly I don't believe JI is involved in this. I don't think he has the cahonies to be involved in a cover up, if a cover up indeed happened. I believe DB may have been dabbleing in a alternative lifestyle (MAYBE) but thats just speculation based on Media releases, internet wildfire and innuendo. Sure..alot of us have speculated and I for one was on the DB did it bandwagon. I'm just saying after the interview today, I'm not so sure.

 

[In da Middle]

If she hid her, I would check all the landfills. It is too late now, for that I'm afraid. We have a HUGE compulsive disorder, IMO. She would clean and make everything disappear. Think neat and tidy. Pack up and go. I think she messed up. The clothing Lisa was described as wearing was found by LE. They took purple shorts and purple top with kittens on it. I would love to know where they found them. That might help.

1 working landfill in the area checked 3 times that week by LE. One time was that morning another time was Friday morning when the neighborhood trash runs. I don't know when the 3rd time was as they never stated a date.

They NEVER stated a purple top with kittens on it on the inventory warrant! It was a multicolored tshirt with Disney characters. How does multicolored translate to purple and how does Disney characters translate to kittens? Lets go with facts, please.

 

[octobermoon]

They who?

DB and JI

*Sorry, I was thinking out loud.

They know what happened. IMO JMO MOO

 

[norest4thewicked]

LE has not been very forthcoming on information in this case, but, I would think that if Lisa had not been accounted for up to the time Jeremy went to work, they would have mentioned that. Like in Sky Metalwala's case, LE wanted to know if anyone had seen him prior to the date he went missing, and they announced that.
And you REALLY think that if Lisa had been deceased earlier in the day, DB would have been hanging out on the front stoop with the neighbor while the kids played/watched movies inside the house? I mean, really? She is one darn cool customer if she could have pulled that off.

As I stated earlier, I'm not familiar with some other cases...just commenting on this one. And, yes, I do believe that she could easily have done just that. If we want to refer to other cases, I believe that we have seen more than one mother who killed her child who was cool, calm and collected.

 

[In da Middle]

A quote from that link...bbm = Really? The Brandos don't even live together anymore. Maybe the 'source' should getting 'their' story straight before sharing it!

Yes, how could it be the Brando's plural. They have not been a couple since that night and still are not a couple now.

Sorry, I was behind. I see it is now clarified.

 

[Donjeta]

I think it's more along the lines of Jeremy being not only an electrician, but the bill payer, saw 'all the lights on' and Deb who had a few drinks before going to bed, thinks it was a 'few lights on'...

It makes sense to me and I never thought that literally all the lights were on in the home (there was a list of five, four lamps or so somewhere) but while explaining away the presumed strangeness that an abductor would put on all the lights she created an inconsistency where there was none before. In previous instalments she had put out all the lights it was highly unusual for the lights to be left on and it was a clue that something was wrong. Now she's saying that it was normal to leave some lights on.

It was overexplained and overjustified imo and I must wonder if the story of the lights is one of the hard questions from LE.

SB supposedly said that she saw the lights go out when DB went to sleep but I wonder if there was another witness who said something else.

 

[melissasmom]

I didn't say positively that someone helped her. But that is just as possible as anything in this case. I personally believe that DB did it all by herself. She had 3 1/2 hours to do it and I just believe that she did. However, anything really is possible. Some things are more probable than others, but anything is possible. I always like to go back to the very basics and don't think that every single detail in a case is necessarily a clue. Often times, it is just the simplest of things that turn out to be what happened in a case.

I agree. I think that is the problem in a lot of cases. What is important, what isn't. I am glad I am not LE.

 

[Whisperer]

But I will reiterate, why was there no evidence of a dead body being in the car?

When did they search their cars? And how do we know there wasn't? They don't always keep a car.

 

[Whisperer]

It makes sense to me and I never thought that literally all the lights were on in the home (there was a list of five, four lamps or so somewhere) but while explaining away the presumed strangeness that an abductor would put on all the lights she created an inconsistency where there was none before. In previous instalments she had put out all the lights it was highly unusual for the lights to be left on and it was a clue that something was wrong. Now she's saying that it was normal to leave some lights on.

It was overexplained and overjustified imo and I must wonder if the story of the lights is one of the hard questions from LE.

SB supposedly said that she saw the lights go out when DB went to sleep but I wonder if there was another witness who said something else.

Bingo..

The lights and the phones are very sensitive.

 

[Whisperer]

How come Jeremy left out the stray kitten on the bed when he got home?

 

[In da Middle]

If JI drove to work in the company van it would seem to leave the family vehicle in her care.

Then the dogs should have made a hit on that vehicle. They did not as the vehicle is still in their possession. It was listed on the search warrant that these were to be searched.