Deborah Bradley & Jeremy Irwin - Dr. Phil Interview - 3 February 2012 #2

[4Jacy]

I say you're right. Watch the closing scene. Hand gone. It was a control issue. She is directing everything.

So difficult to watch. She, (DB) is so in control of all of this! WOW! This gal thinks she is everything and forever..do you think she is REALLY bright enough to pull this off?

What say you, dear WS's??????????????

 

[Donjeta]

If the Brandos are not divorced yet and have common assets their money could technically be "their money" even if one former partner was more active in the tattoo business, (if reliable information).

 

[norest4thewicked]

Quite frankly I don't believe JI is involved in this. I don't think he has the cahonies to be involved in a cover up, if a cover up indeed happened. I believe DB may have been dabbleing in a alternative lifestyle (MAYBE) but thats just speculation based on Media releases, internet wildfire and innuendo. Sure..alot of us have speculated and I for one was on the DB did it bandwagon. I'm just saying after the interview today, I'm not so sure.

The only thing i am positive about in this is that DB is involved. I'm still on the fence myself about JI.

 

[alwaysonmymind]

What does them not being married to each other have to do with anything? Why would Dr. Phil need to mention that? Who cares?
She lives there with Jeremy and the children, so yes I would call it her house too.

Some people believe a person should obtain a d.i.v.o.r.c.e before they begin a sexual relationship with a new suitor.

I'm one of those people. I believe it's speaks to her character, or lack thereof.

JMO

 

[Sparklin]

DB has come a long way. She now owns the house according to her dialogue. It is my house, my barn, my keys to the house. I noticed Dr. phil never mentions they are not married (normally he would). This must have been part of the deal.

I consider this a total attempt at rehabilitating two parents who were getting beat up on the world wide web.

She has taken ownership for all the material things but refuses ownership on her drinking and behavior. She has all the signs of an addicted co dependent personality.

bbm = I thought she took ownership in that interview. And she clearly stated, which I always believed, that she is NOT an alcoholic and that she will always, even when Lisa is returned, live with the guilt of drinking that night. There isn't much more she can own up to about her drinking imo...
As for behavour ~ I'm not sure how she is refusing ownership on her behaviour? all...mo

 

[heidisams]

Ear infections can transfer from one ear to the other fairly easily. She never mentioned to the abductor(s) or to the general public that Lisa had an infection at all. The baby could have gotten worse in the hands of someone else who wouldn't know this and the ear drum could have burst. JMO MOO

ITA... I think this info would be crucial. If not included in the amber alert, I would certainly expect to have heard about this on day one. Very important if db thought she was abducted by someone who just wanted her for their own. Since ear infections very often require medical attention she would've gotten that out there right away! Alert the medical field!
These are the things that db does and says that make me think she's responsible. To me, there's just no explaining that one away. You don't forget about an ear infection!

 

[cluciano63]

I'm not swayed by tears or anything else and have no idea if the Irwins, both or one, are guilty, but I do not believe a word that comes out of a defense attorney's mouth. I wish I felt differently, but I just don't.

 

[melissasmom]

How come Jeremy left out the stray kitten on the bed when he got home?

I would say because the kitten is of no importance. JMO

 

[Donjeta]

bbm = I thought she took ownership in that interview. And she clearly stated, which I always believed, that she is NOT an alcoholic and that she will always, even when Lisa is returned, live with the guild of drinking that night. There isn't much more she can own up to about her drinking imo...
As for behavour ~ I'm not sure how she is refusing ownership on her behaviour? all...mo

Why does she feel guilty about drinking? She said that it had nothing to do with Lisa's disappearance and she is not an alcoholic and her children are not neglected even if she's drunk, she is not a bad mother and previously she said that she is entitled to her grown up time, so what on earth is there to feel guilty about? She admitted the drinking but denied everything to do with possible guilt.

 

[Sherbie]

Then the dogs should have made a hit on that vehicle. They did not as the vehicle is still in their possession. It was listed on the search warrant that these were to be searched.

But what about in one of these scenarios - would the dog necessarily hit?

• Baby deceased, wrapped in multiple layers of plastic, put inside sealed containers, transported within mins of death.
• Baby wrapped up as above, thought to be dead, but still just barely alive.
• Baby not wrapped up in anything, perfectly fine when transported, handed off alive to another person.

Not saying ANY of these might be the case, just that there are conceivable scenarios - no matter who transported the baby or in which vehicle - that a dog hit might not necessarily be a given.

 

[norest4thewicked]

So difficult to watch. She, (DB) is so in control of all of this! WOW! This gal thinks she is everything and forever..do you think she is REALLY bright enough to pull this off?

What say you, dear WS's??????????????

Honestly 4Jacy, I don't think that she had to be "that bright." I just think that she had to have the opportunity to do it, the time, and if there was no one else there to witness it, it could work. Why couldn't it? Stranger things have happened. That would be my opinion.

 

[In da Middle]

Hi Sparklin,

I actually respect this position very much. In fact, I feel the same way as you. That's why it does not tear me up if me sharing information from a source I cannot name is set aside due to it coming from an unnamed source. I would do the same if I were reading on a site (even mainstream media) sharing the same type information.

However, I prefer it be rejected on sound logic like that versus it being misrepresented as something it is not.

I will be very glad to quote exactly what the source shared with me (minus anything exchanged past that between us)

Here it is verbatim and take it for what you choose to value it at:

There was prefacing comments that I can't share to protect their identity then...



Then there are comments on why they chose to speak with me which don't need to be shared.



This person, to the best of my ability, was determined to be a close contact to the family.

The last of the information exchange has to do with the reported threats to searchers, which I won't be sharing.

Thank you. That brings it much more into context. I can also state that in the almost 10 years that he has lived here, I have hardly ever hear him utter a word. He seem VERY shy - her very much not so.

 

[jjenny]

Even when your pet goes missing, it is suggested to put any medical conditions they got on a "missing" poster. Wouldn't the child's medical condition and whatever medications she was taking for it be something a parent wanted the kidnapper to know? Especially since the mother said she thinks whoever kidnapped the child didn't do it to hurt her?

 

[Donjeta]

Anyway, if JT is correct and cadaver dogs hit on dead skin cells a cadaver dog will hit in every car because people shed skin cells wherever they go.

 

[Valhall]

I'm a little slow on the pickup, and it's not clear to me. A little help please.

Seriously? The Irwins.

 

[melissasmom]

Some people believe a person should obtain a d.i.v.o.r.c.e before they begin a sexual relationship with a new suitor.

I'm one of those people. I believe it's speaks to her character, or lack thereof.

JMO

I am not going to go into a big discussion about that. But there are a heck of a lot of people who begin relationships before they are divorced and are separated from their current spouse. It has no bearing on anything in this case in my opinion.

 

[Valhall]

In da Middle..I saw your statement about speaking with Deborah in the past 2 weeks and not noticing a tattoo.

If it helps to narrow things down any, the statement about the tattoo was made to me on January 25th and it stated "last week" which would be the week of January 16th. If the time you saw Debbie was in the first part of the last 2 weeks, the tattoo should have still been healing and I think it would have been noticeable.

I'm not dismissing your account...it goes in the same box. Wish Debbie had scratched her arm during the Dr. Phil show...lol.

 

[In da Middle]

She had a car and just a short distance to the river.

And the car remains in their possession even after being searched by the dogs so that wasn't how.

 

[melissasmom]

Seriously? The Irwins.

I think the confusion lies where in your post you said it was not the BRADLEY IRWIN family. Maybe that was a typo?

 

[In da Middle]

This is getting OT and I'm not convinced there was anybody but they have a computer, she could have emailed someone or called them on Skype, or borrowed the friend's phone, or someone was supposed to come over anyway, or that someone lives near enough to talk to in person.

And LE took the computers. I think would have found that conversation by now. The other things - possible.