Deborah Bradley & Jeremy Irwin - Dr. Phil Interview - 3 February 2012 #2

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Sorry I haven't transcribed that segment of the show I promised earlier. Been trying to shake a rotten headache all afternoon. If you guys still want it tomorrow, I'll work on it and post it then.

Take care of yourself , go to bed early and don't worry about transcribing if you don't feel up to it!
 
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Sorry I haven't transcribed that segment of the show I promised earlier. Been trying to shake a rotten headache all afternoon. If you guys still want it tomorrow, I'll work on it and post it then.

If you need help, let me know - I am a medical transcriptionist.
 
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The baby could have been unconscious on the bed, then put on the floor for revival purposes, which may have failed. Her actual death may have happened on the floor, right where the cadaver dog hit.
It seems that if this was the case, 911 would have been called in a chance that they could revive her. 911 can be called from any cell phone as long as it is charged whether it has service or not. She could have also ran over to the neighbors just like they did when they noticed her gone.
 
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Sorry I haven't transcribed that segment of the show I promised earlier. Been trying to shake a rotten headache all afternoon. If you guys still want it tomorrow, I'll work on it and post it then.

I was just heading out and saw this, hope you get to feeling better soon Sherbie! :seeya:
 
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I distinctly remember LE speaking with younger adults/teenagers on the lawn at the side of the house w/red shutters. I believe that people knew, even younger people; LE went door to door in that neighborhood.

My statement wasn't meant to be taken literally. I was just facetiously saying that young people often don't have a clue what is going on in the community, referring to the person on the surveillance. Sorry I worded that wrong...:)
 
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Absolutely not. I'm not that naive. I have said previously I DO NOT KNOW what happened and I am on the fence. I crucified her in the beginning, but I have been shown absolutely ZERO evidence that DB was involved. Again, I'm not saying that it is FACT that she isn't involved, I just can't put it together in my head in a way that makes sense TO ME. I simply do not see someone drunk off their 🤬🤬🤬 murdering a baby, dumping a baby, dropping some clothes off in the dumpster, staging the scene of the home, cleaning any possible evidence, and in bed sleeping like nothing ever happened. No trace of her in the car? Did she carry her down the street? Drunk? And unseen? I doubt it. I have also not seen any verified or even credible rumors that she had an accomplice, so that leaves me back at square one.
:floorlaugh: Welcome to my world!:seeya:
 
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jumping off your post, why not call 9-1-1 when her attempts didn't help?


b/c she knew the baby was dead?

she was scared of being charged with a crime?

she was afraid of JI's and their families' reactions?

she was afraid of having the two boys taken away?

plus, too much to drink = lack of good critical thinking skills and logic?
 
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It seems that if this was the case, 911 would have been called in a chance that they could revive her. 911 can be called from any cell phone as long as it is charged whether it has service or not. She could have also ran over to the neighbors just like they did when they noticed her gone.

Unless there was something she felt she needed to cover up. Maybe she gave the baby some of her prescription meds to 'help' her sleep.Or maybe the adults were partying with drugs of some kind...
 
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Couldn't it be where a person would walk if it was along his route and he had no business going to the gas station?
Sure it could, but it could also be connected just the same. Not a place where too many people would be walking at that time without going to that gas station as it is the only thing open right there.
 
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I distinctly remember LE speaking with younger adults/teenagers on the lawn at the side of the house w/red shutters. I believe that people knew, even younger people; LE went door to door in that neighborhood.

I'm sure most people in the neighborhood would have heard that there was a baby missing even if they don't follow the news. But the blob video was in the news three weeks later on October 24th and the police didn't go door to door asking about it.

It is imo quite possible that not everyone read the story about the gas station sighting and if they did they weren't sure if they were out on that particular night three weeks ago at that time or not. I wouldn't know if it was me or not just from the photo.

http://www.fox2now.com/news/wdaf-la...ey-to-baby-lisa-case-20111024,0,5951855.story

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...issing-Is-mystery-man-snatched-Baby-Lisa.html
 
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Sorry I haven't transcribed that segment of the show I promised earlier. Been trying to shake a rotten headache all afternoon. If you guys still want it tomorrow, I'll work on it and post it then.

I hope you are not coming down with the stomach/headache thing going around, it is horrible. Feel better
 
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She said yesterday on Dr. Phil that both boys were in bed with her that night. These are the things that make me believe what I do about DB.

I would think that story on who was sleeping where should be clear with LE based on interviews with the boys, don't you.
 
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Two things:

1. You're in Baltimore... I like you already!

2. Some of us strongly believe DB is guilty, and is lying. So yes, we are not giving her the benefit of the doubt in any aspect. If she is guilty, which I believe and some others do, then the only right thing she can do is admit it and face the consequences. Anything else she does is wrong. So yes, you will see some extreme criticism.

But, they way I see it, people who are criticizing her no matter what she does seem to want it both ways. ( I am not directing this at you specifically, just jumping off this part)

If DB cries, it's "OMG, she is faking! Gulity!"
If DB doesn't cry "OMG! Look at her she is emotionless! Guilty!"

So no matter what she does, once some people have their minds made up, that's it. I like to take in all the facts, see things from all sides, etc. And that is why I'm on the fence. I just don't see evidence in this case of DB /JI being involved. I can't call someone guilty of a crime because of a feeling, or I don't like them, etc. I just can't, in good conscience, accuse someone of murder when I don't see enough evidence to support it.
JMO

How wonderful that we have that right! The right to discuss someone possibly being guilty or not guilty.

Point in hand-- I can't in good conscience take up for a mother who's admitted on at least 2 tv-media shows that she was 'drunk' when her little toddler went missing.

;) Don't take the opposing view points personally.
 
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I would think that story on who was sleeping where should be clear with LE based on interviews with the boys, don't you.

I am not sure. I think it depends upon when they were asked. They are pretty young and would have been pretty emotional and upset. They may be confused and not remember that clearly. imo
 
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I would think that story on who was sleeping where should be clear with LE based on interviews with the boys, don't you.

Oh I have no doubt that LE knows where they were sleeping. But, if DB changes her story, I have to ask myself why she changed her story. What part in this case does this play. Since I don't know what LE knows, I have to base my opinions off of what DB does/says and evaluate it from there.
 
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If the dogs are able to smell the transfer on someone's hands (even after washing them?) I don't understand why we don't simply solve murder cases by letting all the suspects stand in line and let dogs pick the one that smells.
If they can detect it on clothing, even after it has been through the washer and dryer, I think handwashing would have the same effect.
Airports and many other places DO have people stand in line and let the dog pick who has the drugs. I see no difference as to their abiltity to do so with other scents they are trained to pick out. I am sure it would work in this case also.
 
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Many people who work in LE, etc. have gut instincts. It is good to trust those instincts. Those who do not have them and work directly with criminals put themselves and others in jeopardy. They can help keep you alive.

I have worked around people who don't have them in that field and is scarey. Your life can be on the line and these people don't have a clue. They have found scissors in showers and think the inmate forgot them, he was probably needing them in art rehab...WTH? They don't find it necessary to even report it. Scarey , I tell you! I was stunned that they could excuse Scissors...GMAB! These people should not be working with criminals.

Regardless, it is an ability to snuff out when something is wrong. Some people have it and others don't. Sure they can be wrong at times BUT the majority of the time, they are right on the money. What we have here are people who have a gut feeling based on their knowledge, experience and statistics that guide them down a certain path of who is the likely perp. Nine times out of ten, they're correct.
 
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I watched this dr Phil episode and I tried to put myself in db's shoes. I feel I would not do interviews of that sort if my child was missing. I thought to myself, if it were me I would be in a hospital from a breakdown or laying in bed thinking my existence is over. The whole show I kept looking at my newborn (I was breastfeeding) and getting teary eyed at the thought of her not being in my life. DB and her demeanor do not sit well with me.
 
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I am not sure. I think it depends upon when they were asked. They are pretty young and would have been pretty emotional and upset. They may be confused and not remember that clearly. imo
They were interviewed for 5 hours the first day. I would think it would be very clear in their mind and I think this would be one of the first question asked. they are old enough to explain exactly where they were.
 
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